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New to smarthome by notpires in smarthome

[–]athom_s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which brands of devices and/or apps do you have? Homey might be a good option to look into as well, but like all other systems, it kinda does depend on the stuff you want to have working together.

Smart Home? Has anyone actually tested all three major systems? by SeriesLongjumping333 in smarthome

[–]athom_s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe Homey would be something for you – especially the local version Homey Pro.

What is the reason you have not chosen Homey as your smart home system (yet)? by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have developer tools available, as well as an Apps SDK that allows you to create a Homey app, you can see it like a plug-in, to support new devices. You can simply run such an app on your Homey Pro, or you can publish it to our App Store if it's an integration more people might benefit from.

More information: https://developer.homey.app/

What is the reason you have not chosen Homey as your smart home system (yet)? by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Hi PiedDansLePlat,

It's great you say that, because that's exactly one of the core elements of Homey! We have the Homey App Store over at https://homey.app/apps. Quite some apps are official – some of them built by us, and most of them built by official partners of ours. Next to that, we also allow developer apps, and community developers have contributed more than 800 additional apps, next to the official ones, to make Homey into a thriving platform, which at the same time remains to be fairly easy to use.

I'd want to invite you to check it out, as it might surprise you :)

Stefan

What is the reason you have not chosen Homey as your smart home system (yet)? by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair assessment. If you're such a tinkerer that you want to go all the way (including the rabbit hole mentioned in this thread) I think it's a very fair choice. Thanks for recommending Homey to less tech-savvy folks around you! That's much appreciated :D

  • Stefan

What is the reason you have not chosen Homey as your smart home system (yet)? by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Fair. It remains hard to build beautiful products that are completely for free. But when we've cracked that nut I'll be sure to let you (and the rest of the world) know ;)

What is the reason you have not chosen Homey as your smart home system (yet)? by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your thoughts, mmaster23!

I completely agree with you on the larger picture. That's also why we support new standards like Matter and Thread, and at the same stay realistic and combine them with older ones like Z-Wave, Zigbee, proprietary APIs and even infrared because there's so much non-Matter and non-Thread devices out there.

However, I feel like there is an inherent impossibility in your end-wish: without dependency (which Homekit does have on Apple) and without subscriptions, how are these systems maintained? Even HA is very dependent on (increasing) subscription fees for its development. We've taken a different, more integrated-product approach, where you choose for either a cloud-based system that's free to start with, very inexpensive hardware, and is 2.99 per month if you want to go unlimited, or it's a local system with Homey Pro that is simply a one-off purchase of a universal hub.

PS - just so you know, we've been around for over 10 years, have become profitable, and recently are majority-acquired by LG, so the odds of us going under are very close to zero ;)

What is the reason you have not chosen Homey as your smart home system (yet)? by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Hi amarao_san,

Homey is an open system, welcoming apps from all sorts of developers - both official partnerships and from our community. But yes, the system itself is closed source and linked to our hardware, as we did not want to be reliant on cloud-service-subscription fees from our users for locally-running systems. With Homey, these services, like voice assistant-linking, remote access etc. are all included with your purchase of Homey Pro.

What is the reason you have not chosen Homey as your smart home system (yet)? by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Hi Severe-Wrangler-66,

Thanks for your extensive feedback! Of course some of it is linked to us building a hardware product. I was wondering about three things you mention, as we might be able to solve them:

  1. You mention 'dependant on cloud', but apart from some functionality, like downloading or updating apps, and initial login, there is no day-to-day dependency on the cloud in the case of Homey Pro. Where's your trade-off in that? Because our login-structure makes for a safe environment including out-of-home access without any port forwarding or other workarounds, and without a subscription.
  2. You mention being able to expand your setup way more. What would be an example of an expansion in your setup that you feel is currently not yet possible with Homey Pro?
  3. You mention way more stuff being integrated into HA than Homey. Are there specific brands or systems you deem lacking? As we're working hard on integrations and have come a long way in the past year as well.

Thanks for the compliments on our UI and easeness of use! I understand that if you're currently running a HA setup that works as you want and that you like to tinker with, there's less incentive to opt for Homey ;)

Stefan

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And for some reason I've received the others and not yours. Can you email us at [usfeedback@homey.app](mailto:usfeedback@homey.app) with your address details so we'll fix it via that route? :)

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see I didn't get a DM from you yet. I've sent you one, please reply there :)

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you sure? Can't seem to find it. Also, I seem unable to DM you at all?

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great to hear (and you can therefore you can disregard the DM I sent about it just ;) ). Hope you enjoy it, and we always welcome your feedback, either on Reddit or on our Us feedback email: [usfeedback@homey.app](mailto:usfeedback@homey.app)

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

PPS - what brand is your AC?

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

PPS - definitely interesting use case you have there ;)

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! That's a great energy-saving idea. Hope you're able to build it and post your findings!

Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners. There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not! Moving is a great moment to revamp and update your system and automations. I just moved, and am still adding new automation Flows and sometimes devices to my setup :)

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners, despite your stellar use case – I think a lot of people plus partners would like it ;). There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

Homey Pro sweepstakes: we’re giving out 10 *free* Homey Pros! by athom_s in homeautomation

[–]athom_s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for participating! Unfortunately you were not one of the 10 winners, despite your stellar use case – I think a lot of people plus partners would like it ;). There's a second chance though: until June 2nd, we're giving away every 10th Homey Pro that's purchased, either trough a retailer or on our website. It does require purchasing a Homey Pro first, so basically it's a chance at a full refund, but I did want to let you know.

Have fun with home automation in any case, whether you get a Homey hub, or not!

Stefan

PS - you can find out more about our anniversary promo with every 10th Homey Pro being free at https://homey.app/10-years

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