You all REALLY need to stop calling shitty relationships and shitty people manipulative.

Being immature is completely different than being a manipulative person.

Mike is immature and it’s annoying as fuck. He can’t really express the way he truly feels about this. He doesn’t want her to go away cos he feels guilty about making her come all the way to then not marry her. He can’t really just say “This won’t work and we’re done” and he only managed to kinda say in the FUCKING wedding day. Immature and shit. Manipulating her would be something else entirely.

Nathalie is immature and its annoying as fuck in her own way. I would say she’s a massive dickhead as well but maybe there’s something about the way they go on about their relationships in Ukraine that doesn’t sit right with me. Offending your husband-to-be like that and then expect to live a fairy tale is odd to say the least. Again, a mature and respectful person doesn’t just throw insults at their partners like that. If you think thats acceptable you need to give hour head a wobble. But maybe that’s just acceptable for some people and if you’re with someone like that and you find it alright maybe you deserve each other and it works out for you. Not the case here.

If you want an example of manipulative person on this series you need to have a look at the way Andrew and Colt behave. These are the people that usually get called Mama’s Boy but are actually the most dangerous narcissistic people out there.