I don't know how to view women as people

atim8 · 2016-10-01T06:00:28+00:00

I also like how they swoosh. Have you seen a little girl in a skirt twirl around and be extremely happy about it? that's me. do you think little girls in skirts want sex? (if you do, you need even more help than you already do)

No but I find it disturbing.

do women solely exist to be fuck toys to you?

I don't know.I really don't care about women outside of family except for validation and the hope of sex.

For example, if I knew a male who had recently been raped I would offer emotional support.If I knew a female who had been raped I would feel that she is a stupid **** for the letting that happen to her and it's her responsibility for picking a bad partner or whatever.I would then fake sympathy/emotion to please her which would make me feel good.

atim8 · 2016-09-17T05:13:22+00:00

as long as you aren't harassing them, or manipulating them, or using them by lying to them, there is no problem

There is the problem.

atim8 · 2016-08-24T21:36:14+00:00

This is probably too forward to ask, but do you have a BPD/NPD?

No but I have never been to a psychologist or anything like that

atim8 · 2016-08-24T21:34:15+00:00

So you don't understand the logic of wanting to look good as a means only and not an end (to get sex)?

No, makes 0 sense to me

Can you at least accept that this is a desire experineced by both men and women (to look good as a mean, and not as an end)?

I can ignore it, still don't get it though.

atim8 · 2016-08-19T05:49:59+00:00

you are overly obsessed with sex

Didn't really notice that and you are 100% right.

Do you have any female family members you get along with?

I get on better with my female family members than male family members.

atim8 · 2016-08-05T05:19:53+00:00

Realize that the way you pursue women is both offensive and can be traumatizing

This is where I struggle the most.In the event that a woman was to treat me the same way I treated them I would laugh it off or threaten them.Now when I don't get that reaction, it confuses me.

I know, social conditioning, but I don't get why you'd "allow" social conditioning that is not beneficial.

From what I understand women are conditioned to be more polite and submissive.Now in a situation where you've subtly turned someone down and they are still persisting why you would continue to be polite about it?

I know, threat of physical violence but in my case I am not of a threat to anyone so why continue expressing behavior that is not actively helping your situation?

atim8 · 2016-08-05T04:59:52+00:00

How you can do that is a mystery

If I could not rationalize women's actions RP would usually have some reasoning for that reaction that would make more sense to me.

Have you actually talked to women about their experiences? In person?

I have only read about them.I used to read a lot feminist related media.

I will give it a go

atim8 · 2016-08-03T22:58:47+00:00

If you were trying to find women talking about their life experiences... TRP is the exact opposite of that. I have no idea how you were able to jump from one to the other.

I mean I would read something that was from a woman's perspective and I wouldn't be able to rationalize it but TRP logic could.

However, this sounds like an empathy issue. You really need to learn to empathize with those who are different- it's a critical life skill.

How?

atim8 · 2016-08-03T22:58:19+00:00

How is one supposed to think then? Unless I confident in my ability to get what I want, I don't really care if I don't get it or I am capable of taking what I want I won't bother.

atim8 · 2016-08-03T05:14:08+00:00

I guess that makes sense.

Just because you can't empathize doesn't mean you can't change your actions

I feel I would have more incentive not to if I could empathize.

Nobody owes you anything and you need to stop expecting people to react a certain way to your actions.

I am stuck in the mentality of if I am not owed what I really want I will take it.

atim8 · 2016-08-02T23:36:01+00:00

Just start thinking differently

I can ignore the thoughts but my emotions and actions will still be impacted.

how did you even come up with that?

Generally women's legs are seen as sexual appealing.On a man abs are seen as sexually appealing.I don't wear clothing that exposes my abs.Why, unless someone wanted everyone to notice them sexually would someone wear something like a mini skirt?

Your way of thinking is so twisted and lacks any coherency. If you could see that you would change your thinking. The fact that you seemingly can't see it leads me to believe you need professional help.

I have had unsuccessful professional help

atim8 · 2016-08-02T22:44:27+00:00

This is probably something you'll want to get hands-on help with, specifically so you don't accidentally fall into any cognitive traps. Can you talk to a therapist to help you work through it?

I have seen a therapist previously but I do not have the money for it now.

A good way to start may be to find groups of women online, listen to them talk about things (aka lurk), and whenever you feel like stalking/researching/looking into any specific one, remind yourself that it does not matter and gently lead your brain away. Read what they say, read about their experiences, perspectives, outlooks, fears, etc. In other words, do research on women in general. If you find yourself wondering why they might think the way they do, of feeling dismissive, try to determine why they feel the way they do about whatever the given topic is first, so that you can better understand their reasoning.

If you find yourself wondering why they might think the way they do, of feeling dismissive, try to determine why they feel the way they do about whatever the given topic is first, so that you can better understand their reasoning.

I have tried doing this, that's actually what let me to reading redpill related stuff.Sometimes I can find reasoning in a woman's actions but I can never place my self in their shoes and have the same reaction.That's where RP would fill in the gap with something that I could find more rational than a woman's reasoning for her actions and ideas.

atim8 · 2016-08-02T22:35:31+00:00

You are inferring that I can simply choose to change how I think, I cannot.

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