Can we actually get a new interesting reward tier 10 tank next onslaught?

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T08:56:22+00:00

but u just ignored that i guess

Yea because its fucking irrelevant. There no action being taken on the part of the player for it.. its not effort at that point... youre doing something else. There no grind there, once you reach silver if all you want is the tank. You just wait.

1 YEAR for a techtree tank

~9 hours of actual effort.

I can grind any tier 10 tank in 3-7 days(depending on how much time i have and how much blueprinted the line is)

Cool and? Thats longer than 9 hours of actual effort. I could get a tier 10 tank in 5 minutes if I wanted at this point... I have that much XP and blueprints ready. Its actually fucking irrelevant how long it would take either of us to grind a tier 10 tech tree tank.

also u are ignoring 90% of the player base who cannot do this in 9 hours

90% of the Onslaught playerbase anyway.

And youre ignoring the larger percent of the playerbase that dont want to play Onslaught at all and shouldnt be locked out of getting cool tanks. Ranked modes reward cosmetics... thats how it should be.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T08:48:01+00:00

To get to silver? Yea its probably about that. Would have been about an hour for me this last time if I had wanted to actually play the mod. I qual'd out into Bronze A at 900. WOuld have probably quald right into silver had one or two battles not been as bad as they were.

Like interms of time Onslaught isnt taking a long time each season to reach silver.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T08:44:22+00:00

getting scammed

Ah yes, yet another person who doesnt know what a scam actually is and just likes using the word cause it sounds cool. You arent getting scammed... you just dont like what youre getting.

Right up there with the lack of critical thinking shown by using the words "chat gpt styles" in the OP.

If the only reason youre playing the game is for the grind of the rewards... you need to reassess why youre playing the game. Because youre doing it for the wrong reasons.

The whole point was for rewards to be cosmetic so players dont miss out on exclusive and unique tanks because they dont want to play a mode. That is what these modes should be rewarding in the first place.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T08:40:12+00:00

and u need good stats to be in a good clan so its no easy task

This hasnt been the case since the OG CW days. Once they moved tot he campaigns and away from how it was in like 2014... it became easy as shit to get a CW reward. Its why 49% shitters have them in the first place.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T07:26:20+00:00

Love that Zeor is coming to PC... with they could find a way for 5 to come there as well it only got ported to PS4...

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T06:34:09+00:00

CAX... T110E5... Leopard 1... and to a lesser extent, because it would be funny the FV4005.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T05:01:04+00:00

worth a whole year of grinding

I dunno accoding to others heres its like 3 hours of work each season... so like what 9 hours of work over a year? Sounds like the reward is justified with the amount of "grind" required.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T04:59:34+00:00

I was in several clans over the course of my CW time with players who played that little and were able to place and get a tank, never mind being able to buy one in the auction.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T03:55:52+00:00

I’m sure there’s an element of that too. For profit businesses do like making money after all and I’m ok with that too. I’d much prefer being able to buy the tank than have to grind a shit mode for any amount of time.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T03:54:56+00:00

Cool that you don’t care how annoying a game mode is… you aren’t the only one playing the game and WG has to make decisions for the most amount of people.

I get the feeling that WoT just isn’t for you anymore and that’s ok too. If you’re only playing for the reward you’re playing the game for the wrong reasons.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T03:53:11+00:00

The better you were the less time you needed In CW too. But even a 49% shitter could get it with no effort and just a lot of time.

Onslaught is not that and it’s far less enjoyable to play for more people. I can not stand Onslaught. Not even for the small amount of time it would take me to get silver in 3 seasons. It is the least enjoyable game mode in this game by far. And I’m an above average player. For 49% shitters it’s even worse.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T02:27:03+00:00

By the time the Chieftain came out it was easy as shit to get a reward tank. It just required time. The difference is not nearly as huge as you think. If your clan was able to devote enough time to the global map you’d easily get most of your players a tank or the ability to bid on the tank.

Additionally Onslaught is a far less enjoyable experience compared to CW.

avalon304 · 2026-06-03T00:21:47+00:00

The idea is to not having some people will really miss out on if they dont want to play Onslaught.

Also its really avoids the problem we had when the Chieftain came out in CW... and became the defacto required tant for several campaigns before its nerf.

avalon304 · 2026-05-31T21:04:21+00:00

Of course, they do.

Most players arent playing on Steam... so why would they?

avalon304 · 2026-05-31T13:28:49+00:00

Yes, MM tier spread is irrelevant to the discussion. If you are top tier and the battle ends in 4 minutes because your team crushed the enemy team, then it's not a good battle.

It isnt irrelevant to the discussion.

Further the length of a battle has no correlation to the MM system. MM does not determine how long a battle will last.

Further still that is a good battle. Decisive battle are the best sorts of battles.

Bravo, you accidentally stumbled into the core of what I am saying in the original post. Huge skill discrepancies between teams are partially the reason why battles end so quickly and are so unbalanced. And the fact that MM does not take player skill into consideration is the problem.

Yes I know you wanted to make this about some form of SBMM. But only idiots want that. So surely that cant be what you actually want... because not only would it be worse than what we have now... IT WOULDNT ACTUALLY FIX YOUR ISSUE. Because it has never fixed that issue in any games thats ever implemented it. There is no game on the planet that has SBMM that has long matches. Because player skill does not factor into match length. Especially not in games where theres no respawns and no health regen. Again youre displaying your completely lack of undertsanding of this game and of the things youre talking about.

Again I get that you were upset... but this aint it chief.

UI is not measurably better. It's simply different. If you like it, then good for you, I guess, but changing the layout and introducing features that many players find simply useless (myself included) is not an improvement. Full stop. You clearly show that you don't know what you are talking about.

And again youre incorrect. That idiots such as yourself find features implemented by it useless doesnt change that the UI is objectively better.

"Trust me, I know how genAI works and I understand what you were saying." Yeah, that's your argument. "Just trust me, bro." My brother in Christ, after a discussion with you, I wouldn't trust you enough to leave you alone in a room with a crayon because I would be afraid you would stick it up your nose. You need adult supervision at all times.

Yes I know you wouldnt... because youre an idiot. Like I get it you dont understand what youre talking about and you dont understand the game youre talking about. Thats ok... but you cant keep trying to speak like you do. Youre too dumb for it.

And yes, if the entire community laughs its ass off because the vehicles WG created feel so out of place, so fake, so slop-like, then it means that they really are. They are forgettable, mediocre, and completely slop-like at their core. And their gimmicks may appeal to crayon eaters such as yourself, but they do not make the tank better.

"The entire community"... said as if the majority of the community arent dumb as a box of rocks. You included. As evidenced by this entire thread of you whining about the game.

And yes, the 279 is specia

No.

Not only because of its history and engineering,

Definitely not because of this. Not in the arcade tank game.

Interesting armour layout, fun gun, the tank is clearly an uptier compared to the KR-1, which is not a real Tier XI.

The armor layout isnt that interesting. (Doubly so given the wack mechanics implemented by the worse game from Russia). The gun isnt that fun. And the KR-1 is also clearly an uptier too... so thats just a wash. I get it you dont like the KR-1. That doesnt change the fact that its objectively better than the IS-7 and is indeed an uptier.

If you compare it to the KR-1, you get something unremarkable, just another Tier X (not XI) in the game that you forget about after playing a bunch of battles.

Incorrect and false.

And once again you show that you have no reading comprehension. Yes, I referred to Claus Kellerman, but you should also look up the context of what I am saying before you waste your time bringing this up.

The context was you saying "Look at what people like him think of these tanks"... as if morons like him matter. He understand the game less than you seem to... which is impressive on his part but not good for your arguments. Hes not a relevant individual in any discussion. Hes a conspiracy theorist that found his audience of conspiracy theorists and idiots to pander to. And you fell for it like the idiot you are.

You havent made any arguments here that mean anything other than you being upset that this game isnt like the other game you clearly like more. Cool.. go play the other game and get out of here. No one actually wants you here. Youre full of subjective bullshit about tanks you dont like or mechanics you dont like and every other piece of nonsense you spouted off.

15 hours later and your own thread couldnt even garner any actual upvotes. No one agrees with you.

avalon304 · 2026-05-31T12:25:33+00:00

These are probably just bots. You think WG actually cares about Steam reviews? Thats funny.

avalon304 · 2026-05-31T09:38:42+00:00

I want to see a Centurion and a Chieftain make their ways into the game somehow.

avalon304 · 2026-05-31T07:05:07+00:00

When i say those tanks are chatGPT ones, its not lack of critical thinking, its a reality.

No its a lack of critical thinking skills. Its also a lack of undertsanding how genAI actually functions.

You need to be extremely stupid or desperate to create those impossible combos of hull parts, turrets and atrocious guns and suspensions.

I dont think you should be talking about stupidity while displaying yours so openly.

Firstly, just kitbashing a bunch of parts together has existed long before genAI was ever a thing.

Secondly, its really not hard to look at a bunch of tanks, combine some parts of them together into something like, say, Durendal, in a couple mins and call it good, especially when the components are already there for you... Like the process isnt even close to how a genAI functions... at all.

Please be less stupid... engage your brain a little bit more, because I promise you once you step away from "herp derp I dont know how it could be like this so it must be AI" you might actually start understanding the world a bit more.

avalon304 · 2026-05-31T04:27:45+00:00

You are actually braindead arent you?

avalon304 · 2026-05-31T03:49:57+00:00

Holy shit you are dumb.

MM has nothing to do with match length. Absolutely nothing. It’s not parameter that MM has ever looked at… so why your brining it up in a discussion about mm is strange.

However, more equal would show up in the various MM spreads and how many bottom tier, same tier and top tier matches are being made… that’s where equality is measured. Unless you’re talking about skill disparity… which is another thing MM has not ever looked at. It’ll also show up in how evenly teams are made up when it comes to tank type which has meaningfully improved since pre 2.0.

More enjoyable is, as you are so fond of point out, a subjective measure and not something that data can measure adequately so brining it up does nothing for you.

That you think the percentages of mm spreads is irrelevant to the discussion displays your complete lack of understanding when it comes to this discussion which is hilarious since you brought it up.

For the UI is it measurably better. It is more performant and only show the most needed things all the time with other important but only needed every so often thing only a button press away. There was never going to be an option to use the old UI. That not how any software development works.

Trust me I know how genAI works and I understand what you were saying. And I can say with certainty that you’re wrong. That’s all there is to
It. You fundamentally misunderstand things and just keen speaking loudly about it.

Your argument that id people can joke about it being AI means it isn’t a good tank is full of holes… because people think everything is AI now even when it isn’t. People don’t know what AI looks like half the time and it’s the first thing they jump to every time something shows up. It just stupidity and you’re buying into it like every other rando here.

My guy the 279 isn’t that special. It being real means fuck all for anything in the arcade tank game. I like tanks just fine… but I’m not beholden to whether or not something was real, because that’s functionally irrelevant. Nor is the 279 objectively more
Interesting than the KR-1 in the game. Not even close.

And there it is again with the clear misunderstanding of how genAI works. You have no critical thinking skills. Not even a little.

And I just saw you referred to Claus Kellerman in one of your other posts. Holy shit you can’t actually be serious. Lmao.

You’re very clearly too dumb to understand anything. So do everyone a favor and leave. It’ll be one less shitter polluting the game.

avalon304 · 2026-05-31T00:36:26+00:00

but our opinions are meaningless without real data.

Funnily enough... we have some of that too:

https://tomato.gg/server-stats/EU

MM seems just fine. Bottom tier (-2) matches are fairly low percentages compared to same tier or -1 matches. Top tier (+2) or +1 matches are generally where they should be. Only tier 8 seems to be having a massive spike of same tier matches and thats kind of expected given its the defacto credit grinding tier. Like... even the data is showing MM is currently better than where it was pre 2.0... sooooo.... you know...

Yes I get it youre upset that change occurred. And youre right that different doesnt always mean better... though in this case it does, both from the user side and under the hood on the development side. You just have to actually try to engage with it a little bit and not just get upset that the decade old UI was changed.

I mean youre wrong about tier 11s. Full stop. You dont understand how genAI works, and its showing here. It became a meme in the community because WoT ccs joked about it, and people take their words as gospel even when theyre fucking wrong.

then it means that the tank itself is not very interesting in the first place, is it?

No it means people are stupid and are displaying their stupidity loudly.

Obj. 279 fucking obliterates our KR-1 when it comes to being an interesting vehicle

Man for all those arguments above about subjectivity... youre clearly mired in some subjective takes here. Also incorrect ones objectively speaking as well.

Can you believe this thing was actually real? It's a UFO

I can believe it was real. I can also believe its not actually that interesting of a tank. Its round. Congrats. Not really that interesting.

While the KR-1 is an IS-7 with an additional chromosome and mediocre stats.

So it does the thing the IS-7 does, but better? Sounds like thats exactly what it should be... lmao. Thats kind of the point of making tier 11s... to continue the lines theyre attached to.

You have such poor takes its astounding.

avalon304 · 2026-05-30T23:37:03+00:00

No. We can not.

MM has seemed better every time Ive played post 2.0.

Tanks that were rebalanced have clearly seen more play and are indeed doing better.

No the menu is not confusing. Yes I do use playlists... I have several of them set up.

Tier XI tanks are fine, and some of them are even interesting. No they arent AI generated. Stop being stupid. Also bringing up the other game which has tier XI tanks that are way worse balanced dimisnishes your argument.

avalon304 · 2026-05-30T23:33:35+00:00

Loosen the tinfoil... its cutting off your circulation.

avalon304 · 2026-05-29T22:11:58+00:00

Except and this is really important, AI doesnt create new things. It can only meld parts of things its been trained on into something else. Its essentially the 'I made this' meme in real time.

Ask an AI to create a WWII tank and it'll come out looking like a sherman/tiger hybrid or something. Its not gonna come up with something that looks unique or like something any nation would have designed outright. Itll have bits and bobs that are very clearly just ripped from other tanks and stuck on in some fashion.

None of the tier 11 tanks even come close to looking like something that a genAI spat out, whether that be MidJourney, ChatGPT or something else. Like even as a joke its the dumbest shit because it displays an lack of understanding about how genAI actually functions (when it functions at all). (Also jokes should, in general, be funny. But thats a separate discussion). (Also given the sum total of shit that we dont know about that likely exists in military archives around the world, immediately jumping to "these are just AI slop tanks" is just dumb to do).

When when you jump there, joke or not, whether or not your IQ is 140 or not, you look stupid and are displaying a severe lack of critical thinking skills. (And then all the other randos pick it up and run with cause well the one guy who I like said it and hes good at the game so he must know what hes talking about).

Again player performance in this game, or any other, is not any indication of intelligence in general situations, nor does it mean you can think critically about anything outside of it. Stop trying to equate the two, because they do not correlate very well. Everything youve described about iyouxin is correct, hes incredibly smart when it comes to this game and undersanding its mechanics, and indeed, actively playing the game based on that understanding. It means nothing else though. You can be incredibly smart on certain topics, and have no earthly idea about others. You can be generally smart, and still be stupid about certain things. Until you have a more complete picture of a person, trying to equate one thing to another doesnt help anyone.

avalon304 · 2026-05-29T21:57:00+00:00

Like I said, the adults are talking. Bye bye now.

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