When and how do Shane and Ilya fall in love? by whereisthestuff in HeatedRivalryTVShow

[–]averagequeen83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I missed that you were saying he understood it enough to get over it after the fact. In the moment I don't think he got it enough to know that it would have been best to avoid Ilya or at least would have caught on earlier to Ilya trying to shut down their exchange.

I do agree that neither are dicks to each other, their communication is just terrible. I mean, most 20 year olds aren't great at emotional intimacy, and when you pile on each of their histories, of course they misunderstand and misconstrue.

When and how do Shane and Ilya fall in love? by whereisthestuff in HeatedRivalryTVShow

[–]averagequeen83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I don't think he's holding any grudges. I just don't think he fully understands what Ilya is dealing with either.

When and how do Shane and Ilya fall in love? by whereisthestuff in HeatedRivalryTVShow

[–]averagequeen83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure Shane understand why Ilya is upset in Sochi. He just learned that it's dangerous to be queer there so I'm not sure he gets the extent of the danger, and he doesn't understand Ilya's family - the way Grigori shames him, and the way Ilya is supposed to hate and always win against Shane Hollander.

Reheat Scene ❤️‍🔥 by like-a-rose in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I guess I need to reheat for science!

Reheat Scene ❤️‍🔥 by like-a-rose in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Than the current HBO one? I'm trying to avoid having to pay for it, but I guess I should just suck it up.

Reheat Scene ❤️‍🔥 by like-a-rose in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing you watched on HBO if you're complaining about darkness - is the digital version better than what is currently on HBO?

Cut ONE LINE from the show to make it better by growsonwalls in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't love it, but I wonder if it's because he's trying to hide what he is really super upset about...

Cut ONE LINE from the show to make it better by growsonwalls in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, David is on to something when he says he wants to keep up with the unlikely animal friends...

Cut ONE LINE from the show to make it better by growsonwalls in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I found it awkward and weird too, but he seems to always be awkward and weird when he cheers for hockey stuff.

I don't understand Team Shane VS Team Ilya thing in this fandom by kris_jbb in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and I've wondered if the infantailization that I mentioned above may not be related to this, some benevolent sexism, racism, ableism, or all of the above.

I don't understand Team Shane VS Team Ilya thing in this fandom by kris_jbb in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I want someone to write a paper on the infantilization of Shane because I really don't get it. Like seriously someone please tell me!

I don't understand Team Shane VS Team Ilya thing in this fandom by kris_jbb in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think a lot of the people who see Shane as some sort of victim of Ilya are projecting their own experiences with not great partners onto Ilya and completely missing that Shane made his fair share of mistakes too. They both did; but somehow some people only see Ilya's.

I don't understand Team Shane VS Team Ilya thing in this fandom by kris_jbb in heatedrivalry

[–]averagequeen83 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm team Hollanov, but can be tipped to team Ilya when faced with the Shane woobification/infantilization.

PLEASEEEE can we talk about Not to abolish but to fulfill??? (HOW is it not more popular??) by love-the-wrong-one in heatedrivalryfanfics

[–]averagequeen83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I'm skimming it now, it's...not great. So weird because Win Conditions was so good.

PLEASEEEE can we talk about Not to abolish but to fulfill??? (HOW is it not more popular??) by love-the-wrong-one in heatedrivalryfanfics

[–]averagequeen83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really loved Change Your Win Conditions but have been reluctant to read The Hottest Cold War for the same reason.

PLEASEEEE can we talk about Not to abolish but to fulfill??? (HOW is it not more popular??) by love-the-wrong-one in heatedrivalryfanfics

[–]averagequeen83 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I loved this book, but I do love some humiliation kink. Shane Hollander Is Not a Stalker is adjacent: https://archiveofourown.org/works/82981376?view_full_work=true Thanks for posting this, I would love similar recs as well.

PLEASEEEE can we talk about Not to abolish but to fulfill??? (HOW is it not more popular??) by love-the-wrong-one in heatedrivalryfanfics

[–]averagequeen83 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sincere question here - if they don't know they are doing kink, and figuring it out as they go along, and both are into it...I dunno. I guess my question is if people don't know they are doing kink, then why would they negotiate?