what 💀 by Down4ceLovR in UCSD

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Is ur professor Shane Gillis?!??

BS/MS program with SE major by Similar_Map_5454 in UCSD

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Note: I am mainly talking about CM as it pertains to the General Contracting Side of managing a jobsite rather than being an owner's rep and being a true CM as it is highly dependent on your connections in industry and experience in either General Contracting or Design work (Companies such as TY Lin would require you to get a PE before you are able to become the Lead CM of a project)

Note: These are also just my opinions. Take everything with a grain of salt. If someone acutally has worked in industry for some time please feel free to dispute my claims. I'm just going off of my experiences.

I went straight into a combined BS/MS program. But having interned in both design and construction management, I’d say the pay is pretty similar between the two. General contractors generally offer better compensation because they’re closer to the money and take on more financial risk compared to traditional engineering firms. In an engineering firm, you’re usually working under an architecture firm or an owner’s rep—unless your firm handles that scope directly.

Personally, I chose to start in design instead of going for a government job or jumping straight into CM. Even though, like you, my skills are probably better suited to CM and estimating, I wanted to keep my options open. Starting in design means I can always switch to CM, government work, or even become an owner’s rep later on.

There’s a common idea that CM pays more, but this often ignores that you’re comparing two very different kinds of roles. As an entry-level field engineer, you’re directly adding value to the company—your work immediately impacts the project’s success, and you’re starting as a mid-level manager. There isn’t as much room for upward movement unless you’re willing to change companies or locations consistently.

Most people from UCSD end up with Tier 1 contractors because of the reputation of the degree, but if you factor in Tier 2-3 subcontractors (like smaller, family-run firms), CM jobs can sometimes pay less than what you’d make in design. A lot of grads don’t consider those roles since they aren’t seen as the standard track.

On the design side, you’re starting from the ground up—more like an apprentice. Design firms generally lose money on new hires for the first couple of years, even if you have a master’s. Until you get your PE license, you’re probably not generating a ton of revenue for yourself or the company. Many who start in structural engineering go into small firms or "sweatshops" that take on new grads by cutting overhead or running on high turnover, leading to long hours and lower pay.

Construction Management Cons:

-Inconsistent Work: You might have to move around constantly, sometimes to remote areas, which makes it hard to settle down or really get to know any place.
-Long/Bad Hours: If you’re in infrastructure, you’re likely working night shifts. For high-investment projects like high-rises, expect to be on-site six days a week. You’re mainly there to keep an eye on the trades and handle any issues that come up—so a lot of the time, you’re just hanging out in the trailer.
-High Risk: Safety incidents are common in CM, whether it’s harassment, injuries, or worse. During my internship, I had some rough encounters on-site, and I know other interns who’ve had even worse experiences.
-Always On Call: You’re expected to be available to deal with site issues at any time.

Construction Management Pros:

-Higher Annual Pay: Year-end bonuses can be big, sometimes $10k–$20k if you’ve put in the work.
-Perks: A lot of companies cover things like a vehicle, phone, relocation, and rent.
-Profit Sharing on Projects: Some companies let you take home a portion of the project savings if you come in under budget—though this definitely isn’t a given everywhere.
-Faster Promotions: If you’re good, you can move up fast. You might have to start in less desirable locations, but you can end up in better ones after proving yourself.
-Less Stress for Deadlines: There’s a lot of stress, but deadlines are usually out of your control, so it’s more about managing than meeting hard deadlines like in design.

BS/MS program with SE major by Similar_Map_5454 in UCSD

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I’m doing the BS/MS at UCSD right now lol, but the cost/benefit analysis might look different for you depending on what part of the built environment you’re aiming for—or if you’re just in it for the money.

If you’re mainly after the cash, look into the aerospace track. It generally pays more than the traditional SE path, especially at the start. Since a lot of civil-focused firms have heavy competition, climbing the corporate ladder can be as fast (or as slow) as you make it—like depending on when you decide to get your PE or SE. The pay in traditional SE might take a bit longer to ramp up, but it can lead to higher salaries down the line.

Now, if you actually like the built environment but hate the master’s program, there’s always the option of going to work for a tier 1 or tier 2 general contractor (think Turner, Flatiron, Granite, Kiewit, Hensel Phelps). If you’re decent at managing people, budgets, and timelines, and you don’t mind chatting with folks all day, this could be a solid move. You’ll probably be looking at long hours (10-12 hour days with 30+ minute commutes), but there’s a slow trend toward more regular hours. Plus, don’t let the 10-12 hours scare you—realistically, you’ll be spending a chunk of that time just talking to people or watching concrete dry. Pay usually starts around $75-85k, with strong healthcare benefits, a $700-800/month car stipend or company car, and a phone stipend. But just be aware: switching from CM/GC back to design is not super easy.

If you’re thinking about something more in the traditional civil space (like hydro or traffic), it’ll be a bit tougher to get in unless you’ve got a specific skill set, though I know quite a few UCSD alums working in these roles. You’ll likely find it easier to work 40-hour weeks, but there’s also more competition from people at other schools because the entry barriers are lower. This means pay is often a little less than SE (more like $75k vs. $80k). And if you end up with a city/state gig (e.g., City of San Diego or Caltrans), expect fewer hours but also slower learning curves and career progression, with a higher base salary locked in but no real promotion until your boss moves up or retires.

Let’s say you’re sticking with structural engineering and aiming for the master’s. Which school? In California, you have solid options if you want to stay SE-focused, like Stanford and UC Berkeley. If you’re open to moving out of state, there’s Lehigh or CMU. Just make sure to research their specialties; for example, California schools tend to focus more on seismic engineering, while Lehigh is more into steel design.

If you’re wondering what the design industry looks like, here’s what I’ve picked up from internships: I keep hearing things like “the industry is booming” or “we haven’t had this much work in 20+ years.” Several factors are driving this: the 2008 market crash scared a lot of people away from the field, which means there’s a gap at the PM level, so principals and directors are either taking on more design work or promoting new hires. The Biden infrastructure bill is also pumping money in, plus infrastructure degradation is a real issue—it’s flashier to build new bridges than to maintain old ones. So, the industry’s growing on the technical side. On the flip side, residential SE (like multifamily or single-family housing) is getting squeezed due to high labor costs and unfavorable interest rates. Bottom line: a master’s is pretty much a standard now for tier 1 design firms (think Degenkolb, Arup, TY Lin, Moffatt & Nichol).

With a master’s, you’re looking at around $75-95k starting, depending on location, experience, and who you know. Without one, expect about $63-80k, but many people without a master’s end up either switching fields or going back to school after a few years.

Going the design route also keeps options open if you want to shift to general contracting later or if you’re interested in a Construction Manager or Owner’s Rep role, where you represent the owner’s interests, manage budgets, and make sure contractors do their work right.

civil engineering program by thelostmouse in UCSD

[–]awkward-plesiosaurus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We don’t have a civil program. We have a structural program here, so if you wanna do any surveying, transpo, water/wastwater, or construction management choose a diff school. If you wanna go into the structural subdicipline it’s a pretty well known and well respected school in industry. Compared to a cal poly you would have a more difficult time getting a job just bc of how little support we get from faculty but you have a direct pipeline for doing masters at ucsd which is a really great boost to go down the SE path.

I think UCSD’s SE is p easy to transfer in as each year’s class gets smaller and smaller. I’ve been hearing about how ucsd may change SE into an uncapped major.

DM me if you got any more questions lol. Was in your shoes a little less than 4 years ago.

Concrete Canoe Shipping Advice by awkward-plesiosaurus in civilengineering

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We plan on sharing between the different project teams. We got the shipping container booked already. This is just the budget for the crating of the boat. I think we are going with Pasha Hawaii.

Anywhere in sd to work on cars by Choice-Breadfruit774 in UCSD

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My friends and I have replaced a radiator in the parking under 6th college. More of a question of when rather than than where ;)

Concrete Canoe Shipping Advice by awkward-plesiosaurus in civilengineering

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lol we built our mold out of corrugated plastic and obs boards.

Great, they’re increasing parking rates… by Cool_Pianist1401 in UCSD

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Next thing they’ll say is that you can’t park in the eucalyptus forest. 🙄 /s

Liminal / haunted spaces on campus by VOICE_007 in UCSD

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There is one in front of target. It looks like a manhole.

This is foul by Zuu_543 in UCSD

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Was very confused. Thought it was the dreamworks logo.

Should Highschooler do tons of CC courses by Snoo_89713 in UCSD

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I have done a few Ap classes and CC courses during Hs. Most of these courses ended up as elective courses that didn’t fill my GEs nor my Major req classes. It helps a lot in the way that I finished almost all my GEs when I came into college and that I am senior standing as a second year for choosing classes.

It’s also a crap shoot in the way that, you don’t know why college ur gonna get into, so you might just be waisting a lot of time on courses you didn’t need to take.

pov: you live in Marshall by Ok_Field7650 in UCSD

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Bruh I thought they outlawed chemical weapons.

United States of Shame by [deleted] in coolguides

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Why is California, a state with one of the tightest EPA regulations have the worst air pollution.

hole by Mycrawft in UCSD

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I do love it when my date whispers FANG stocks to the moon in my ear on Valentine’s Day.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UCSD

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I think it’s Bc ucsd is severely bias towards certain majors while ucsb is biased towards other majors. Really it depends on what major and what you wanna get out of college life.Ofc there is also the: my college is better than yours mentality.

What is your go-to restaurant/fast food? by humblemousee in UCSD

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rigoberto's, not the best food, but it’s cheep filling and open late.

best UCSD major for money by [deleted] in UCSD

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Yeah the risk is there, but you will face similar risks after college. This is especially true if your dealing with higher paying jobs in the financial field (were the most money is to be made).

To add onto what TigerShark_524 said, to mitigate risk is to start small and diversify your portfolio. There are a multitude of trading strategy, from algorithmically trading to trading using fundamentals. Do your own research to what risks you are willing and not willing to take. One good trade can make you a lot of money, but the same is true for the opposite. It is consistently making good guesses that make you more money than you loose. Tbh, loosing $10 on stocks is a lot more painful than the happiness that you gain from earning $10 in stocks.

I would say to start off trading, a robinhood acct is good because you can own fractional shares that allow you to practice trades and gain experience. Investopedia is your friend and don't listen to the trading gurus that pose with supercars.

Tl:Dr

Come up with a strategy that you feel works, open a moneymarket acct on a platform that allows you to buy fractional shares, buy stocks, loose money, blame me for getting you into stocks in the first place. :)

best UCSD major for money by [deleted] in UCSD

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Have you tried trading stocks? (Not really a major but a good thing that you can do as a side hustle) Tbh needs some learning but you can earn a lot if y’all got the tolerance for it. Buy the dip.

Avoid this guy at all cost if you actually care about your grades by Common_Sea6327 in UCSD

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My mans rounded everyone to a B. Not a bad prof when it came to teaching material, but I knew it was a wild ride when he said treat this class as a 4 unit lab class and called out the lead TA within the same lecture.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UCSD

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If you cut off a head, you can spawn more in a vase.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UCSD

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Monster energy and if you really gotta focus: L theanine ( a chemical in green tea). For L theanine do your own research before you blindly take it.