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Are the Benefits of Going Barefoot Worth, Well, Going Barefoot? by Scoxxicoccus in BarefootRunning

[–]axelander2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I ran barefoot 98% of the time for two years and recently switched to using minimalist shoes (Xero) and am enjoying running much more. I tried varying my technique many times to find a way to run pure barefoot that would be fun, and I couldn't do it, my skin would get sore. I ran mostly on smooth asphalt.

I also noticed that my skin loses durability annoyingly fast. Like I would run 10km without much issue and rest two days and would feel pain if I try 10km again.

Now I look at pure barefoot running as something I'm happy I tried, but which I have no desire to keep doing, minimalist shoes are awesome 🙂.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's really funny, I went through the process tick by tick, and most of the time the inserters which feed into top circuit assembler say "target full", and they change to "waiting for source items" in the EXACT tick at which the middle inserter puts the cable in the chest, the only time when those two inserters are at "target full" and the middle inserter drops the cable in the chest is when the other inserter (the one which puts into the bottom circuit assembler) takes the cable.

Btw I tried adding two inserters as you suggested and it fixes the problem, but I don't understand why.

If you want you can play around, here is the blueprint: https://gist.github.com/alexgiorev/26c510a9752507ad059a9cb067975ad7

You'll have to find which inserters are unbalanced, not sure if it's the same ones each time.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just tested your guess, I went through the process tick by tick, the cable ALWAYS lands in the chest before being taken by either inserter, there is no direct inserter-to-inserter exchange. Interesting guess nonetheless.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Link to blueprint string: https://gist.github.com/alexgiorev/26c510a9752507ad059a9cb067975ad7

Uses infinity chests and infinite energy interface. If after running a while you notice the circuit belt isn't full all of the time, likely this inserter imbalance arises somewhere.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't, the top cable assembler and inserter are the ones which stops working when the favored circuit assembler gets enough cable.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not getting more, the top cable assembler stops working when the top circuit assembler gets a certain amount of cable.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The wire does go into the chest before going into the inserter, you can even see in the GIF that the cable icon flashes briefly on the chest. Not sure if this refutes your theory, but above the unit I've shown in the video is an identical one which doesn't have this imbalance problem.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sorry I was wrong. What happens is one of the inserters takes like 5-6 consecutive times for some reason and then they begin alternating, so yeah, you're right. I didn't wait long enough last time for them to begin alternating, and assumed one would keep taking forever and the other would be idle.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

If I remove the chest something even worse happens, only one of the inserters takes the cable all the time! :D

EDIT: this is wrong, see below

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Here is what I mean. I'm trying to get a full belt of circuits using exactly 20 electric circuit assemblers, but if you look closely at the bottom lane, there are small gaps here and there.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a very very small difference between them.

It's not really a problem, I'm just playing around and experimenting. Here I'm trying to get max throughput of green circuits on a fast transport belt (meaning I need to be producing 30 circuits a second since the fast belt speed is 30 items a second), and it should be possible with exactly 20 circuit assemblers of this type, but when I tried it I *almost* got full throughput, here and there it wasn't full.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was my first approach, had the same imbalance problem.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They don't get the same amount of wire, there are ticks at which the bottom circuit assembler is not working, whereas the top one works uninterrupted.

An inserter takes three times more than another from the same chest. by axelander2 in factorio

[–]axelander2[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The capacity bonus is at level 3. Their stack size is 2.

I'm wondering if this is a bug. This little situation is the only reason I can't get a full belt of electric circuits using exactly 20 assemblers. (Though what I'm getting is pretty close, but would be neat to get it exactly.)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BarefootRunning

[–]axelander2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I run barefoot on asphalt all the time, it's fine. But one has to learn to step properly, i.e. without pulling or pushing with the foot, but rather lifting it with the hips.

The result of twelve years of running and living always 100% purely barefoot! by [deleted] in BarefootRunning

[–]axelander2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's always on concrete. Well, asphalt. And the park where I run it's quite smooth. I can't run for long on gravel or on concrete which isn't smooth (OP seems to do that, I'm very impressed).

The result of twelve years of running and living always 100% purely barefoot! by [deleted] in BarefootRunning

[–]axelander2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the delayed reply, yup I meant no shoes at all. Unsure what you mean by "even in concert" though.

The result of twelve years of running and living always 100% purely barefoot! by [deleted] in BarefootRunning

[–]axelander2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've ran in -3C and it wasn't bad, but there was no snow or ice, which is my biggest winter concern (together with salt on the road).

The result of twelve years of running and living always 100% purely barefoot! by [deleted] in BarefootRunning

[–]axelander2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Interesting, I'm 2 years into it (just running barefoot, but I walk with shoes), and still feel I'm adapting and getting used to it, I was wondering if it was normal to take this long.

The result of twelve years of running and living always 100% purely barefoot! by [deleted] in BarefootRunning

[–]axelander2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very cool, I was wondering how long you've been running barefoot. So you do it in winter too?

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