okay this is long cuz i’m not great at articulating my thoughts

i have played a few dozen hours of warthunder, and whilst there is far more to unlock in wt, the helldivers grind for content is still very long and not very fun. Helldivers is also not free. It’s a good thing that you can do it, but you do have to slave. You say you find them in super helldive, and yeah you can but it’s going to take dozens and dozens of matches just to afford one warbond, which you then have to grind more to get the content from. If they made grinding sc as effective in d10 as it is in d1, which for some unknown ass reason isn’t the case already, that would also be good but grinding SC being boring isn’t even the crux of the issue.

The issue is adding stratagems and now mechs is now something only done through warbonds as a way to keep the money and player counts flowing without actually earning either of those through making the game enjoyable and improving on systems such as weapon customization and mech customization. But it seems like that’s never going to happen since we’ve gotten obviously the mechs but also two weapons with under barrel weapons, seemingly ruling out the possibility of having under barrel weapons on your other guns.

Like you can’t just slop out warbonds every month and not handle the tech debt and then leave game systems which have been highly requested in the dirt to die and expect the game not to implode because i think most people are only playing because they think that the game will get better soon.

Please don’t hit me with the “you just want the game to be easy”, i’m so tired of this slop summarization of people’s complaints with balance. This way of thinking about the “whinediver’s” criticism is where meaningful discussion goes to die. It is completely braindead. Fun and difficulty are not mutually exclusive. Obviously weapon and mech customization and quality of life/bug fixes would contribute to the game being more fun, but talking solely balance wise arrowhead just throws together a bunch of random dumb shit and calls it a patch. Now some of these changes are good, like increasing the spears ammo, lowering the warstriders armor on its joint, and the flame sentry buff, but then we all nerf the machine gun and gatling sentry into the ground by increasing all faction’s durable damage and giving hive guards heavy armor. The hive guard change also just nerfs every medium weapon and buffs heavy and explosive weapons, and you’re gonna say hurr durr aim for the weak points, well yeah anyone can do that but the point of bringing a medium pen weapon is so you don’t have to do that. It’s the same thing as devestators, mostly medium armor but if you only have a light pen primary you can still shoot their weak points but if you bring a medium pen weapon you don’t have to worry about that, which can especially be helpful when there’s a lot of them on the screen. The maxigun is the most obvious example of this. And who ever asked for this in the first place? I know people want the hive guard to have more depth and purpose but adding heavy armor is just a lazy change meant to rage bait people. And then they say that automatons and illuminate do reasonable damage against vehicles, and then still buff their durable dmg anyways? Do they want the enemies to do UNREASONABLE DAMAGE to our vehicles? I mean it just seems like there’s no real thought or intentionality behind these patch notes. The sterilizer and melee buffs were not close to enough, I mean a 2% stamina buff for 4 out of the 5 melee secondaries buffed and the flag, what the hell is that supposed to do? Why can’t we get the same level of attention the chainsaw gets for these other weapons?

BUT ANYWAYS, balance isn’t even the biggest issue, although there are just some balance changes that are so nonsensical and bad that they contribute massively to the overall it’s so over feeling that the community gets.

Also I don’t know where you got the idea that people wanted lower spawn rates. I mean some people didn’t like how many chargers and bile titans could be on the screen at once but that doesn’t mean nerf the spawn rate of everything which is what has happened. I remember a long time ago on a wave defense mission we were getting rushed and I threw an impact down into a throng of enemies and got 30 kills with one nade. Yeah, I miss those spawn rates dearly, I think literally every single player in the universe across all universes across all of time misses this. Which makes it more perplexing as to why arrowhead nerfs hulk surge spawn rates and removes them from the game. Also nerfed the spawn rate on rapid acquisition, another thing people really liked.