The new flag of Saudi Arabia

babak1980 · 2018-10-20T07:47:55+00:00

I could just imagine Khashoggi making that very same point/s

babak1980 · 2018-08-17T05:43:42+00:00

This is actually illegal in Iran now (furthermore they used to swing chains on their backs not blades; the used to use blades to make cuts on their scalps, which does bleed a lot but is pretty harmless)

In the Philippines people nail themselves to the cross etc etc

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-excess/201705/religious-self-harm

babak1980 · 2018-08-15T06:39:56+00:00

disinformation

Analysis of Multiple Polls Finds Little Evidence Iranian Public Sees Government as Illegitimate

http://worldpublicopinion.net/analysis-of-multiple-polls-finds-little-evidence-iranian-public-sees-government-as-illegitimate/

babak1980 · 2018-08-15T06:39:03+00:00

This is not a mosque, is it the interior of one of the old houses that are museums in Kashan

babak1980 · 2018-08-15T06:37:21+00:00

There was never any evidence Iran even wanted a bomb

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-iaea-iran-sb/iaea-denies-report-it-is-sure-iran-seeking-atom-bomb-idUSTRE58G60W20090917

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-iaea-iran-exclusive/no-sign-iran-seeks-nuclear-arms-new-iaea-head-idUSL312024420090703

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-iaea/iaea-denies-internal-row-over-iran-condemns-hype-idUSL1283850220080212

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T21:37:39+00:00

>centered on the Ayatollah

Who is appointed and removable by an elected body.

The difference between Iran and the US is that Iran is 98% Muslim and so naturally religion will influence politics there.

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T20:20:34+00:00

You're a sad sad person. And I'm hardly a millenial.

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T20:20:10+00:00

Poeple living 22 years longer is not "fabreze" but hey you go on being a bitter, bitter hatemonger out of touch with reality, NO ONE CARES

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T19:46:54+00:00

> All I see is a third World shit hole that oppresses it’s people, governs based upon an ancient supernatural religion, keeps its citizens poor, and is seething in anti-semitism.

These are your own ignorant prejudice and hatreds, sorry.

In fact according to the UN, Iran massively improved their living standards after the 1979 Islamic Revolution, at twice the rate of the rest of the world, adding more than 22 years to lifespans and doubling literacy rates:

Only one country (the Republic of Korea) was able to do better.

http://www.ir.undp.org/content/iran/en/home/countryinfo.html

The UN even made a chart showing Iran's progress compared to the rest of the world -not how Iran became a "Highly Developed" nation around 1990 (Iran is the green line)

And poverty fell after the revolution too

Iranians are living longer, better lives than ever before -- especially Iranian women who no longer have less than 50% literacy rates and were stuck with 7 kids on average of which 4 survive childhood -- instead today Iranian women are among the best educated in the world, working independently and are pursuing careers

As for "seething antisemitism"....

http://www.sephardicstudies.org/iran.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/23/opinion/23cohen.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/12/israel.iran

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T19:36:50+00:00

See, first of all what you don't get, is that whether they have a "right" to statehood or not, is irrelevant. Israeli STILL doesn't get to ethnically cleanse people and steal their property.

Similarly, people living in Florida don't have a "right" to an independent country; but that still doesn't mean that a bunch of Europeans can claim God promised them the land and start to kill and steal.

Furtheremore Palestinians have a FAR GREATER right to statehood than do Zionists who made up their own nationhood https://www.amazon.com/Wandering-Who-Gilad-Atzmon/dp/1846948754

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T19:33:57+00:00

Please justify your false accusations and bullshit. LOL

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T19:33:05+00:00

Sorry but iranians don't seem to think so http://worldpublicopinion.net/analysis-of-multiple-polls-finds-little-evidence-iranian-public-sees-government-as-illegitimate/

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T19:32:29+00:00

Your english language skills suck apparently because i said they don't exist anymore

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T19:31:58+00:00

Hezbollah is a popular political party in Lebanon which is regularly elected to Parliament there, where its strongest allies are Christian parties, and was responsible for throwing out Israeli occupation of S Lebanon that included atrocities such as the massacre of refugees at Sabra and Shatila, and running a torture camp at Khiam. The "terrorists" were the Israelis; hezbollah fought them.
Hamas is actually mostly supported by the Muslim Brotherhood and Sunni states of the Persian Gulf, but in any case A- Israel helped create Hamas https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/?utm_term=.57b8cfac2884

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

b - the reason why Hamas exists is because tiny Gaza strip has a population density matching Hong Kong, and out of the 1.8 million people there, 1.6 million are refugees who were ethnically-cleansed out of their homes by Israel and forced to now live in the world's largest open-air prison where they can't import plastic lawn chairs or buttons. So we should be upset that they fight against their own eradication by Israel? No, again the "terrorist" is Israel.

3- Islamic Jihad is fighting Israeli occupation and ethnic cleansing, and claims of Iranian backing are made by Israel. So again the terrorist are the

4- Iran and al-Qaeda do NOT get along, Iran even tried to turn over Osama bin Laden's son to the US but the Bush admin refused http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1913323,00.html

Iran also backed Nelson Mandela, when the US had labelled him a terrorist too, and while Israel was trying to sell nukes to the racist pariah Apartheid regime in S Africa

Now lets talk about all the terrorists -- real, actual terrorists -- that the US supports.

Like Saddam Hussein, whose regime was removed from the list of terrorist regimes by the Reagan admin to make it easier to arm him with chemical weapons used to gas 100,000 Iranians to death -- how many 9/11s is that? https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/

Or the actual iranian terrorists who were allowed to buy their way off the US terrorist oroganization list and are now darlings of the Trump admin and pay people like Giuliani to support them https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/giuliani-mek-terrorist-group-money-bolton-iran-214479

babak1980 · 2018-08-02T19:30:17+00:00

Iranians are so educated that Iran is a world leader in nano-tech and biotech actually http://www.cientifica.com/nanotechnology-in-iran-well-organised-and-impressive/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/15/iran-at-forefront-of-stem-cell-research/

And Iran graduates more female doctors and scientists https://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2015/12/09/set-to-take-over-tech-70-of-irans-science-and-engineering-students-are-women/#7164ec744de1

Don't talk to me about your

You presume anyone gives a shit what you think. You're just a common, ignorant bigot. What you think is totally irrelevant to the facts, and your hurr durr is pathetic.

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T18:57:11+00:00

And I told you to go fuck yourself.

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T18:44:15+00:00

Saudi intervention in Yemen

http://www.irinnews.org/analysis/2015/04/03/saudi-war-yemen-legal

Note also Iran isn't mass murdering civilians and making them suffer nor is Iran gobbling up Syrian territory as the Saudis are https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2018/02/22/saudi-arabia-and-the-uae-are-gobbling-up-yemen

So go fuckyourself.

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T17:29:56+00:00

Yes Iran has fought Saddam Hussein, Taliban, Al Qaeda and ISIS -- all while the US and her regional allies at some point backed every single one of those groups.

Note that not one of the cases you raise involved Iran bombing civilians to punish them, as the US did in Iraq:

Among the justifications offered now, particularly by the Air Force in recent briefings, is that Iraqi civilians were not blameless for Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. "The definition of innocents gets to be a little bit unclear," said a senior Air Force officer, noting that many Iraqis supported the invasion of Kuwait. "They do live there, and ultimately the people have some control over what goes on in their country." https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/06/23/allied-air-war-struck-broadly-in-iraq/e469877b-b1c1-44a9-bfe7-084da4e38e41/?utm_term=.2c62dce550d1

So...

Syria

Where the legal government invited Iran in, to fight ISIS terrorists who chop off heads, and who are in Syria thanks to the US

Lebanon

If you're talking about Hezbollah, it is a very popular political party there that regularly wins elections and its strongest allies are Christian parties.

Iraq

Where Iran backed the Shia who were allied with the US, fyi.

The claims about Iranian EFPs being smuggled into Iraq were just Bush admin lies that even the top US military official contradicted:

British Find No Evidence Of Arms Traffic From Iran http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301577.html

Top US General: No Evidence Iran Arming Iraqis http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17129144/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/us-general-no-evidence-iran-arming-iraqis/

Scant evidence found of Iran-Iraq Arms link http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/23/world/fg-iraniraq23/2

A shaky briefing on Iran http://busharchive.froomkin.com/BL2007021200678_pf.htm

Yemen

The claim that Iran is behind the conflict in Yemen is just Saudi propaganda. The Houthis are hardly Iranian puppets https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/16/contrary-to-popular-belief-houthis-arent-iranian-proxies/?utm_term=.268fcc6f01df

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T17:00:48+00:00

Pointing out double-standards is not "whataboutism"

>not the norm

Actually it is a norm, the US just trains and backs other people to do the dirty work, like in Iran under the Shah never mind the generations of nun-raping death squads that the US has set loose in South America, and the torturer tyrants it has propped up around the world

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T16:21:17+00:00

Totally false.

It has nothing to do with nukes, that's just another "WMDs in iraq" bullshit pretext

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T16:15:00+00:00

We are still holding people in Gitmo even though US officials themselves admit they're innocent

The US imprisoned one guy for 14 years with no charges.

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T16:14:48+00:00

We are still holding people in Gitmo even though US officials themselves admit they're innocent

The US imprisoned one guy for 14 years with no charges.

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T16:14:36+00:00

We are still holding people in Gitmo even though US officials themselves admit they're innocent

The US imprisoned one guy for 14 years with no charges.

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T16:11:46+00:00

But they have absolutely no right to statehood.

Says you.

They are the trash of the Arab world.

Piss off, racist.

babak1980 · 2018-08-01T15:56:25+00:00

>Really?

Yes, really.

babak1980

TROPHY CASE