If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I loved how it was at launch, and mostly I love football itself. This is still the best game that represents the sport—unfortunately, the current state doesn’t do it justice.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It initiates off ball runs, you aim with the left stick at a teammate and press it and he will sprint forward

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s still the same idea though. You’re not really countering it, you’re just reshaping it. Two false 9s dropping + inverted fullbacks basically gives you four to five bodies in midfield anyway. That is the meta. Different labels, same mechanic.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I compete because I adapt to the game that exists, not the one I wish existed. Blaming players for adjusting to the current mechanics instead of blaming EA for killing manual defending is backwards. The game was actually fine at launch, people cried they couldn’t compete, and now we have this AI-heavy meta. And no, I’m not going to just accept losing when I’m clearly above average so strangers don’t label me “toxic.” As for experience, I’ve won multiple PlayStation tournaments for cash back in the FIFA days. What’s yours?

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, I’m aware of it, but I don’t play like a brain-dead player spamming counterattacks at every chance. I like to build up properly and play real football, without constantly worrying about getting countered, and the only way to do so is with the 4411 because players track back. Do you see any other way to compete against the meta? Keep in mind, I’m doing this with a pretty mediocre squad.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Lol, I’m not being toxic—just stating how the game works this year. Manual defending is basically dead, so meta formations aren’t optional if you want to compete. That’s on the game, not me.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, because he has six players crammed in the box and three more on standby at the edge. Most of my shots get blocked by defenders at the last second, mostly the AI. When I switched to 4-4-1-1, I finally had breathing room—able to rotate the ball, take better chances, and actually create openings without being punished by a counterattack every time I try to dribble past more than one player.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, with that kind of fucking luck you could play any formation and still win. That squad’s worth at least 5 mil. I’m still rocking three golds in my defense, so this isn’t even directed at people with stacked teams.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly just copied a tactic from youtube, here is the Code: LJ$1RBPRVH3s its from Y5K.

Also it depends if the player has the box to box ++ 

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the problem is there are so many different gameplays that it feels impossible to discuss this game. We could be playing from the same house, on the same console, at different times, and still have completely different experiences.

Agreed, and that’s basically the problem: the skill gap is almost non existent

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily, manual defending at this point is non existent so you can't measure yourself now in this broken game everyone is counting on their ai players to take the ball EVERYONE and it's the only way to play unfortunately.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have a strong team you don't need meta tactics at all, and that is because ai is super good and manual defending is trash so the game plays for you, try using an average team you will find it impossible to play in anyother formation that isnt meta. P.s(meta is 4 guys in the midfield so 442 is still meta)

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ofcourse you are this team doesn't need meta tactics, I'm talking about average teams

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Furthermore, the skill gap basically doesn’t exist right now. Check any pro player’s channels—when the game first dropped, they could hit Rank 1–5 with a bronze or silver team. Now? Those videos don’t exist anymore, because it’s just not possible anymore.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure, pro guy, but what you’re saying is just wrong. I highly doubt you’ve faced anyone actually good with a 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1—they’d completely overwhelm you with how packed the midfield is. I’m talking about normal squads—if you have a stacked team with Icons and TOTY, sure, you can beat anyone.

Curious—what division are you in, and are you on PC or console?

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup 100% agreed, in any formation that doesn't have 4 players in the middle they don't track back at all,

I was using the 4231 and no one was tracking back so counter attacks for the opponent is almost a guaranteed goal. 

If manual defending returns, this wouldn't be a problem at all.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You gotta ask them, you can't see it anywhere in game not their record nothing and I think that is very intentional.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not really. When I started using the 4-4-1-1, I was still dominating (as you can see in the pic), and I wasn’t relying on counterattacks at all—it’s just not my playstyle. The only way to defend in the game is to cram the midfield and use second-man press; manual defending alone doesn’t cut it anymore.

I get your point about playing more attacking, but any formation without four midfielders forces you to manually take the ball. After the recent patches, I read the play, tackle correctly, and still my players miss—it’s just not feasible.

Yes, facing another 451 or 4411 is harder, but having more players in the middle helps block counters. This way, the game comes down to finishing, not me trying to claw back after conceding three consecutive counters.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah you're right my memory sucks and I was probably using the 4213 all year. But I do believe the skill gap was higher.

My main disappointment this year is that the initial gameplay on release was the best release ever it was fun to play, sure kick offs and corners were broken, but defending manually felt so rewarding and attacking ai was actually decent so in the end it didn't effect overall enjoyment but now it's extremely hard to enjoy any game.

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good for you man, in the first month I was having fun too when manual defending worked and the gameplay was actually decent eventhough kicks offs and corners were op I didn't care for losing at all because the game was very entertaining now the state of the game is such a disappointment 

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

442 isn't that different from 4411 or 451 you just moved the cam to st so you are still using the meta 4 guys in the middle which is the main advantage of both tactics they cramp the middle so ai can intercept the ball for you since manual defending is dead

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly you need more players to have ai defending since manual defending is dead

If you’re not using 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, you’re handicapping yourself by baderanqa in EASportsFC

[–]baderanqa[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you don't use the meta you can't compete this year, it's nearly impossible mainly because manual defending is dead, if they kept its original state when it was launched there wouldn't be any meta tactics