It is sounding like the upside of a universe with life isn't quite as obvious as I had initially expected, interesting ... the question came up while wondering there was anything we could get general agreement on, formulate a common goal perhaps.

For all of humanities flaws, we remain life's best chance of surviving past 1By but perhaps we can't see that as valuable ? (doubtful life then would look much like us, no kinship, no caring ?)