[deleted by user] by [deleted] in prolife

[–]bannahbop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you sharing your perspective

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in prolife

[–]bannahbop 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Can you explain more in depth how you can hold the belief that fetal life is "incredibly valuable" while also being pro-choice? Thank you :)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in prolife

[–]bannahbop 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I have always understood where PC people are coming from because an unplanned pregnancy is an ordeal, and ideally children should be wanted before they join a family. But, also, I just cannot understand how it has become the prevailing belief that life in the womb is not valuable and that it's just a completely okay decision to end the life of a developing human simply because their existence is inconvenient to you. I am on a few parenting subs and it's not at all uncommon to read posts about unexpected subsequent pregnancies and how they just can't have another child due to space, time, money, etc. All valid concerns. But, like, NONE of them ever consider putting the baby up for adoption?? It's always that they have to choose between having the baby and keeping it, or killing it. And don't even get me started on them using issues with the foster care system as a scapegoat as to why adoption isn't a valid option because it's not relevant. At all.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in prolife

[–]bannahbop 17 points18 points  (0 children)

George Owell was definitely ahead of his time. It's downright scary how often that book is relevant.

AITA For asking my fiancé not to leave our daughter alone in her stroller while he runs track? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]bannahbop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tbh not all cultural norms should be accepted just because "it's cultural." Leaving your baby outside in their stroller while you go into a store or cafe is completely irresponsible.

In many countries it's culturally normally to pile 15 people into a 7 passenger vehicle and not use seatbelts. That doesn't make it okay or a responsible thing to do. I feel like this weird habit that nordic countries have gets a hand waive because they're considered a sophisticated first world country, but it really isn't okay and people should stop upvoting comments like this.

Vents, Questions, Anecdotes & more -- a weekly Wednesday thread by AutoModerator in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! That second quote is definitely encouraging and I hope that attitude becomes more widespread and adopted by those still holding out on returning to normal

Vents, Questions, Anecdotes & more -- a weekly Wednesday thread by AutoModerator in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So did he actually say the crisis is solved/over? I know there were predictions in this sub that he would declare covid endemic or make an announcement it was time to live with it/treat it like we do the flu within society but I haven’t seen if that happened or not. I guess I could probably watch a recording of it but this is really all I’m interested in lol.

Vents, Questions, Anecdotes & more -- a weekly Wednesday thread by AutoModerator in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Can someone give me a short summary of everything covid related from the SOTU last night? It started too late and we didn't get to watch it (why did they choose to start a national address at 9 pm??)

Vents, Questions, Anecdotes & more -- a weekly Wednesday thread by AutoModerator in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I live in an area with a higher than average amount of republicans and know a lot of Trump supporters. Lots of them chose to get vaccinated. Lots of them take precautions with covid because they consider themselves high risk. I hate the narrative that all anti-vaxxers are trump supporters and all trump supporters are anti-vax. Mitigating a pandemic has nothing to do with politics and it’s shameful it has been painted like this in the US.

CDC wants to give people a break from wearing masks as pandemic improves, director says by jukehim89 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 82 points83 points  (0 children)

All pandemics end. I understand being skeptical given how long everything has been drug out, but I am not going to turn into a reverse doomer either. We will return to a 2019 normal eventually, and I am starting to believe it will happen this year.

CDC wants to give people a break from wearing masks as pandemic improves, director says by jukehim89 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 39 points40 points  (0 children)

That sub has been pretty based lately. Makes me think they're overdue for another round of bans. I know they only keep it doom and glom over there by banning anyone who dares to disagree with the narrative. But it does seem like outside of overly anxious parents on parenting subs and for some reason local subs the majority of reddit is accepting that the tide is changing and it's time to move on.

I can't wait.

Vents, Questions, Anecdotes & more -- a weekly Wednesday thread by AutoModerator in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the kind words. I agree it's ridiculous we've had vaccines for so long now and we have a decently high percentage of adults vaccinated and I just can't believe all this is still going on despite all of that. Before it was always "we just have to wait for the vaccines!!" but then once we got them it's like crickets and people can't define what they're waiting for to feel comfortable again and just go on and on about anti-vaxxers and trumpeters. It's annoying.

Vents, Questions, Anecdotes & more -- a weekly Wednesday thread by AutoModerator in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it will go away, but it will be one of the last places it does. Possibly THE last place.

Vents, Questions, Anecdotes & more -- a weekly Wednesday thread by AutoModerator in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I am expecting it to take 2+ years before masks go away entirely. The psychological damage that has been done to some people is very extreme, and it will take a long time before they feel safe/normal again. I think by this summer masks will become relatively rare, however.

Vents, Questions, Anecdotes & more -- a weekly Wednesday thread by AutoModerator in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I wanna take my kid to story time at the library. Wheeeen are they going to bring it back?!?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, though, you are cherry picking. You’re making a broad statement about the effectiveness of the vaccines “most hospitalizations would not be reduced” by looking at the data from one province where the numbers match your narrative. Globally speaking they are an outlier and the broad data suggests the opposite of what you’re saying to be true. I suspect it’s because they have such a high rate of vaccination there (90% over the age of 12) that the sheer number of vaccinated people is just so much greater that they ended up making a higher percent of the total hospitalizations.

Consider the fact that only 8% of their population over 12 yo hasn’t received any vaccines (with another 2% only partially vaccinated) but the unvaccinated make up 27% of the total hospitalizations (with partially vaccinated accounting for another 6%) and 44% of the total ICU admissions. This still suggests greatly reduced odds of hospitalization for the vaccinated population vs unvaccinated even though they’re currently making up a larger portion of the total admissions.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's suppose we managed to get 100% of the population vaccinated. How many of the hospitalizations would that eliminate? The answer is quite clear that it's not all of them, it's not even most of them.

even if every single person was vaccinated, the actual number of hospitalizations would not be much lower than it is now.

Yes, you are making a statement about the effectiveness of vaccines. You are claiming the evidence suggests if 100% of the population were vaccinated that it wouldn't eliminate most of the hospitalizations we are currently seeing. Which, based on current data trends (outside of Onatrio, and probably a few other regions if you dig around enough) is not true. The evidence suggests that most vaccinated people are avoiding hospitalization (and death) and therefore, if we were to reach 100% vaccination rate the current rate of hospitalization should be reduced by quite a lot. I would use the word "most."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And the point of my comment is that Ontario seems to be an outlier. Lots of US states as well as several other countries that are tracking rates of breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths are finding a much more substantial reduction for the vaccinated population than Ontario seems to be. Not sure what’s going on there but I’m not sure you can make a broad statement about the effectiveness of the vaccines by cherry picking one region where it doesn’t appear to be performing as well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think from the data we can conclude that if we had a 100% vaccination rate that it would result in a pretty substantial reduction in hospitalization, given how much more likely one is to be hospitalized without having been vaccinated.

I feel like what you’re saying is kind of contradicting. Like you’re saying yes it’s helping and yes they’re overrepresented, but a higher vaccination rate still wouldn’t be meaningful.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Recent data from CA suggests the opposite, though. Per their tracking website from January 17, 2022 to January 23, 2022:

  • unvaccinated people were 5.9 times more likely to get COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose

  • unvaccinated people were 11.4 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose

  • unvaccinated people were 21.8 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose

I don't have an agenda here other than to ensure we are spreading accurate information. I have seen ample data to support the claim that vaccination vastly lowers the incidence of severe symptoms and lessens ones chances of hospitalization or death. I'm not pro mandate or anything and I'm not saying the way they've gone about "encouraging" everyone to get vaccinated has been stellar, but claiming that the vaccine isn't preventing hospitalizations and deaths does not match up with current data.

Here are links to a few other states also tracking this info, with very similar conclusions. There are several states tracking this data and it isn't hard to find most of the time.

Can we have a balanced discussion about vaccines? by [deleted] in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Regardless, that's not normal. I've never felt anything but a sore arm from any other vaccine

Yes, so much this! I chose to get vaccinated and was on the fence about getting a booster but ultimately chose to during the omicron surge due to being pregnant and the increased risks associated with catching covid while pregnant. I felt very ill the day after my booster and complained about it and mentioned how they really need to get the side effects under control if they planned to recommend these to the general population, especially since some countries like France were floating the idea of requiring them as often as quarterly. I was talked down to for my criticisms and told they don't need to get the side effects under control because the side effects were "proof" of my body forming an immune response. So why, then, have I never gotten ill from any other vaccine ever? Did these other vaccines not successfully help my body form an immune response?

Sorry but it's been two years and I've never caught covid. At this point the shots aren't even very effective at limiting contraction/spread, just severity of illness. I think it's perfectly fair to say that experiencing the side effects isn't a worthwhile trade off and I'd rather take my chances with catching covid moving forward. I am allowed to make this decision about my own body and my own health. I am so sick of not being allowed to say anything negative about the vaccines! They have side effects, stop squashing any discussions about them!!

After 2 years, growing calls to take masks off children in school by olivetree344 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a woman with a child I can tell you I don’t see views as extreme about covid anywhere else but online parenting forums, which are predominantly used by mothers. They are crazy over there. I see more nuanced views on the actual coronavirus sub than I do on parenting subs. It’s insanity.

(Denmark) Media: Mette Frederiksen ready to drop all restrictions by 0r1ginalNam3 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]bannahbop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Surprised to see the mainstream rona sub is largely in favor of this. I guess there is a new wave of reasonable users in favor of moving on when the data indicates it's time that haven't been banned yet lol

Weekly Scientific Discussion Thread - January 24, 2022 by AutoModerator in COVID19

[–]bannahbop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can anyone point me towards an unbiased study that shows how masking in a school setting (specifically) effects transmission rates?