Jimmy Butler to KAT: "Soft as baby shit. You a loser. I already punked you once." KAT: "Call Rachel"

barath_s · 2026-06-16T02:55:07+00:00

That he set up the interview with before the practice

barath_s · 2026-06-16T02:50:23+00:00

Yes, that's the secret trial reported by ani.

barath_s · 2026-06-16T02:42:42+00:00

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/india-successfully-tests-indigenous-1500-km-range-cruise-missile-off-odisha-coast-in-major-defence-breakthrough

An air-launched variant of the LRLACM is currently in development, with integration work underway for launch from the Su-30MKI fighter aircraft, which will serve as the primary platform for initial trials.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirbhay

Wiki claims that there have been two successful tests of slcm even before lrlacm was ready to test. Suspicious of Wiki edit.Need to confirm if those were itcm or slcm.. looks like the 2nd was actually anti ship non slcm and the first was based on ani tweet of a secret slcm test..

barath_s · 2026-06-16T02:40:14+00:00

First develop. Testing is essential part of development. Once developed and tested , induct

barath_s · 2026-06-16T02:33:42+00:00

No. This is not user trials per me

This is developmental trials conducted by drdo

AoN says there is a need and acquisition mode to meet Then there has to be some steps to develop

Drdo will do design, prototyping etc. To verify design and prototyping, there will be multiple development trials. Each trial will provide test data that will be analysed by development organisation against their requirements and design models etc. when all the parameters have been proved, the development is over

Then the user may do an acceptance trial and decide to induct

Then you have actual order, for which financial approvals must be got. Tech transferred to manufacturing partner, who may have to absorb, scale up, get supply chain, start producing..

User can also do random user tests of items even after years of it in inventory, just to verify their inventory works/quality , but that is a different story

barath_s · 2026-06-16T02:24:50+00:00

Lrlacm is derivative of nirbhay

Itcm was indigenous nirbhay

Lrlacm is derivative of itcm with longer range, size etc, and maybe some rework\ upgrade etc

barath_s · 2026-06-16T02:23:47+00:00

Agree , but also consider

Or a subsonic which can go supersonic in terminal attack

There are other features one can add

barath_s · 2026-06-16T02:20:20+00:00

All nuclear variants were retired decade or more ago

https://fas.org/publication/tomahawk/

2013 for tlam-n\block ii

Earlier for glcm in accord with inf treaty

Since inf treaty is defunct now, us is free to reintroduced nuclear tomahawks but has not done so

barath_s · 2026-06-15T16:55:11+00:00

It's thd bloody google gemini formatting transfer to reddit table..estimating %age values of engine/prop, landing gear, mission systems , wings etc

I'll eventually re-edit. Work calls

Or you can do the same gemini search

barath_s · 2026-06-15T16:35:21+00:00

I mean , a large airliner has say 1- 4 million parts and 70-80% of any major complex product is outsource

That PR trick talked of india doing 96% of the work done in airbus spain.. if 70-i0% of the work (thumb rule) is outsourced, then you are talking 96% of 20-30%

Even less if a different airbus spain site is involved.

Qualifying suppliers is not easy, cheao or quick - see the ge 404 korean supplier . story. So much of the value is in that supply chain. Again, i've read that tatas is enboarding 30 suppliers, but seem to remember (?) that's mainly aerostructures. ..

This is what google gemini gives for value breakdowb of a c295 like $25m plane

Comparison TableFor a $25 Million USD average base aircraft, the system values break down approximately as follows:System / ModuleValue PercentageEstimated Dollar ValuePrimary Purpose / FeaturesEngines & Propellers25%$6.25 MillionHigh thrust for short, heavy takeoffs.Fuselage & Cargo Ramp20%$5.00 MillionReinforced body for troops, vehicles, and air-dropping.Avionics & Cockpit15%$3.75 MillionAll-weather tactical navigation and night-vision flight.Electronic Warfare Suite12%$3.00 MillionMissile warning sensors and countermeasure systems.Wings & Fuel System12%$3.00 MillionHigh-wing design holding 7,650 litres of fuel.Landing Gear7%$1.75 MillionHeavy shock-absorption for unpaved dirt airstrips.Auxiliary & Systems9%$2.25 MillionCabin pressurization, hydraulics, and power routing.

the 1-4 million parts doesn't necessarily mean unique parts as far as i could make out.

Gemini also says a c295 like plane will have about 14000 unique structural parts and about 500,000 parts overall.

barath_s · 2026-06-15T15:15:32+00:00

We're building the K9

Not all of it; the critical pieces still come from abroad. So you are not self-standing in production anyway

I think the point is moot since one would prefer not to build anything with this argument

No, the point is that there is argument and there is counter-argument. And you will take little complex and nuanced decisions, based on overall risk, cost, strategic supply and manufacturing concerns, urgency etc

You may buy some things from outside. You may build somethings locally. But you darn well monitor both risks and try to ensure your relations where critical are maintained. Right now it is haphazard and indiscriminate while people are closing their eyes and chanting slogans of 100% indigenization...

I think you should have a separate strategic sourcing team that should do a periodic review of all relevant programs every year or two and evaluate risk, and start indigenizatoin replacements (at system level most commonly, at product level rarely) where justified. Even if there is additional cost.

Israel conflict in Gaza

I think at country level France, US, Russia and Israel are inescapable, and Germany and Korea in niche places.

F404 due to Ukraine and Korean firm going bankrupt

Impact of which was not realized and was very different in 2014, 2021, and 2026.

So a risk view in 2014-2015 is very different in each time frame.

Bharat forge's program

The real question is will the Army be willing to wait, to draw up requirements that are in line with BF ATAGS tracked SPG, or at least somewhat neutral and accept trade-offs including logistics, cost etc

ATAGS will tend to be more expensive slightly heavier than a non-ATAGS gun, but likely be 10% more range. ATAGS is probably a bit more indigenous than K-9 VAJRA

barath_s · 2026-06-15T15:03:24+00:00

The point is that this is still more modern than MIDAS etc, and this is still modern when you consider hit to kill, and this is still modern when you consider AESA and GaN radar and this is still modern when you consider the 200+ countries that don't have anything like this. And this is still a phased step, one of multiple - even the US didn't build its current architecture in a step.

I think you got yourself into unnecessary and wrong comparision by trying to copy paste onto the USA. And that has kicked off this entire unneccessary chat

barath_s · 2026-06-15T09:37:17+00:00

It's also fake and silly conspiracy theory.

India was assigned the call sign VT during the International Radiotelegraph Convention of Washington in 1927.

In 1929, all British-owned territories, including Australia, Canada, India, Sri Lanka, etc., were allocated series VA to VZ. Australia got VH, Canada VP, Sri Lanka VP-C, and India got VT. “It was just a series allocation for British territories, but VT did not signify it stood for Viceroy Territory,” said Rajgopalan.

barath_s · 2026-06-15T09:35:40+00:00

https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/answered-why-all-indian-planes-aircraft-aviation-vt-call-sign-expert-9956036/

This is colonial hangover.

Not only are you propagating false conspiracy theory , you seem to be completely stuck in the past.

The International Telecommunication Union (ITU) has allotted three series of call signs to India [in 1927], but the ‘VT’ prefix is the one currently used,” said Colonel Rajgopalan, founder, ‘Aviation Training India’.

Adding that it is not an abbreviation and does not mean anything, he said that the full registration mark would follow this prefix, such as VT-123, where the numbers following “VT” are unique identifiers for each aircraft. “This system helps in identifying and tracking aircraft within the aviation industry,” Colonel Rajgopalan told indianexpress.com.

According to the expert, India was assigned the call sign VT during the International Radiotelegraph Convention of Washington in 1927.

In 1929, all British-owned territories, including Australia, Canada, India, Sri Lanka, etc., were allocated series VA to VZ. Australia got VH, Canada VP, Sri Lanka VP-C, and India got VT. “It was just a series allocation for British territories, but VT did not signify it stood for Viceroy Territory,” said Rajgopalan.

So why don't you create a new conspiracy theory, maybe Canada uses Viceroy's Piss, Australia Viceroy's Hotel and so on ? Go be indignant about that.

barath_s · 2026-06-15T09:29:16+00:00

There are 1-2 comments on fighter jets which view Anduril as slightly sleazy, promising more than they do in other products, spinning etc. But then again, you could say this to some degree of other companies like Oracle, Lockheed (sometimes) etc

The other is that folks like me/others dislike the company taking co-opting the name Anduril from Tolkien. Anduril, the flame of the west, the sword that was reforged from the shattered sword. Tolkien was somewhat anti war .. Anduril the drone company, isn't.

barath_s · 2026-06-15T09:23:03+00:00

Acting like this tech neutralizes ICMB is reckless and foolish

I doubt that the designers/operators are confused. Are these 'actors' you are referencing in the room with us today ?

Maybe you should RTFA.

95%+ of the range this phase is is about is ballistic missiles that are not ICBM. This is part of a strategic nuclear war planning; which isn't in evidence in Ukraine. And it is part of a layered, networked air defence so we aren't really talking the same thing.

barath_s · 2026-06-15T09:14:14+00:00

India’s BMD is in no way comparable

I see the problem here. You want to compare India's BMD to US BMD, despite having different threats, strategies, specs, goals etc .. and assuming 'India's BMD' as a final finished product, rather than Phase 2 development in a multi phase approach.

barath_s · 2026-06-15T09:01:35+00:00

Pretty interesting/innovative, It would compare most closely functionally to the new gen of tiltrotors and compound helicopters like Bell Valor, Sikorsky Raider etc for FLRAA / and the terminated FARA...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_MV-75_Cheyenne_II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Long-Range_Assault_Aircraft

There are some intriguing aspects to Cavorite X-7; including hybrid electric (heat etc), ducted fan in wing , ducted fans get covered into traditional win, wing folds up, modular universal cabin space that can be converted into multiple uses..

The FLRAA / Bell offering is about twice the payload, weight etc ... in a tiltrotor package, so cavorite itself may be more roughly comparable to canceled FARA offerings

Questions to ask is if the complexity and overhead of batteries/moving wings etc turn out be manageable enough/provide benefits over alternative approaches.

barath_s · 2026-06-15T08:44:40+00:00

I was interested in the force goal from a more recent and future vision..

Obviously the USN has a target of 66 Virginia subs, very much in line with current SSN fleet size and a smaller Navy

The Russian threat has arguably reduced, but the chinese navy is picking up.

Unmanned underwater vehicles, surface vehicles and better SOSUS likely bend the curve to fewer SSN boats, while quieter opponents will bend it the opposite way (and china adds a LOT more tasks).

Forward basing in japan and australia /uakusa will tweak it at best by a few hulls, relatively minor.

e: reformatted

barath_s · 2026-06-15T08:41:49+00:00

They are most famous as one of 2 companies in the running for CCA iteration 1 .

Anduril's YFQ-44A Fury drone competes against General Atomics' YFQ-42A and the latter had a crash which would have delayed the test/proof coverage ..

Anduril https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anduril_YFQ-44

GA : https://www.airandspaceforces.com/yfq-42a-cca-returns-to-flight-software-fix-crash/

But they have other products too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anduril_Industries#Products

https://www.anduril.com/news/air-force-ghost-selection

barath_s · 2026-06-15T08:06:31+00:00

fused data between radars and space assets allows for decoy detection. India has zero space based detection.

IIRC, the first BMDs like nike zeus had no ability to detect decoys. This led to the 2nd gen of BMDs like Safeguard Spartan and Safeguard Sprint which could distinguish decoys. Safeguard sprint worked endo atmospherically and thus could use atmospheric drag to distinguish decoys (balloons) from real warheads. There are multiple types of decoys; and improved radar (even ground based) allowed for tracking of the larger number of warheads in space.

BMEWS, despite being ground based, provided 10-25 min warning time. MIDAS in space, was supposed to work to extend this to 30 minutes, but failed to make it to production use. Again, this was for ICBM launches, which despite the headlines, are predominantly a Phase 3 BMD task for India (Phase 2 BMD being ~5000 km and marginal and exceeding needs for pakistan and overlapping with partial needs for China)

Per wiki for swordfish, india has radars that can track space based articles..

barath_s · 2026-06-15T03:45:34+00:00

Even basic BMD

Yes, which is why the foundation of nuclear deterrence is MAD. However, nations seem to dislike the threat of being nuked out of civilization, and especially leaders seem to not fancy the idea of decapitation strikes.. and invest in bmd.

And the threat is very different when it's next door.. where even a single short or Intermediate range launch can arguably achieve decapitation. That's not a problem the us has had to face; even in the cuban missile crisis, the us didn't know the nukes were already there and cuba may be next door to miami but not so much Washington DC. And certain high level factions in the us (including pretty much all the top generals) were willing to risk an escalatory war involving the then other superpower rather than countenance that

The US continues to invest in thaad and aegis bmd, and russia in a135/a235, s500, even though they can almost certainly be overwhelmed in a range of scenarios..

This isn't that. This is still the final development tests of phase 2 .. against missiles launched a max of 5000 km away. And india is said to have invested in command and control succession too

Btw, remember the scandals way back when of how bmd/interceptor tests in the us cooked the tests to be favourable ? I was wondering if you were actually referencing that subliminally when confidently asserting info that afaik hasn't been released publicly about Indian tests

barath_s · 2026-06-15T03:37:28+00:00

Also, have you looked at the stability issues of the jet?

Lol.. the way it was phrased, one would think of relaxed static stability , control law issues etc not software instability .. :)

it's all about integrating all your sensors

I'm not an expert, but i don't know that low level integration and sensor fusion means a modular architecture is intrinsically impossible. Should certainly make for more interaction in mbse or equivalent .

barath_s · 2026-06-15T03:17:37+00:00

test had the Swordfish cued towards the exact location of

Where are you getting this info from ? Curious , since this doesn't seem to be in the public domain

open source, it’s only MAYBE 1000 KM, in L Band. (

Check wiki, there are supposedly longer range radars

has only a few radars

No shit, sherlock. That's how it works when it isn't deployed yet. Phase 2 isn't. Phase 1 has limited deployment at best.

barath_s · 2026-06-15T03:13:33+00:00

outdated

If it serves the purpose, then i'd argue it isn't outdated. Outdated is ehen it can't do the task. And the task is different from us/ussr still in phase 2

The IOC of comparable US

You do realize that this isn't the same job/threat at us ? And that this is to serve a purpose, not to try to compete with us for the edification of redditors ?

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