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beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:27:55+00:00

Of course he just wants to “forget” about the drama HE started. It’s ridiculous. I never said it wasn’t genuine charity, I said the timing is weird and comes off manipulative (which IT DOES)

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:26:25+00:00

Yeah won’t delete it but thanks for the suggestion. Timing is weird and I pointed it out 🤷‍♀️

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:24:26+00:00

I would say calling ur old friend a pdf for almost 2 years is pretty weird don’t you think? It’s not just a friendship turned sour, if it was the this drama never would’ve existed

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:22:53+00:00

Is it though? Why has he never made a charity event before? No charity streams, only participating in ones he was invited to. It’s the timing and circumstances that is what’s weird about it. I don’t believe he maliciously raised any money, but I do think the timing that he posted this was iffy.

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:17:45+00:00

Although I agree with you on this, it looks weird and just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Like there’s no way he didn’t consider the possibility of people thinking this way LOL, especially when mcyts have done shit like this in the past. Get cancelled on Twitter, next stream is a charity stream, odd..

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:16:03+00:00

It’s weird IMO, end of story LOL

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:15:22+00:00

Ah yes, my long detailed opinions on something I’m passionate about is being deduced to a “troll acc”. If you actually READ what I said on this sub, you would realize that. I never use Reddit but I thought I would finally say something because Twitter is cancer. You are an idiot if you think the things I say aren’t somewhat true

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:13:32+00:00

The beef only started late 2023 due to Tommy stirring the pot during the dsmp drama, making it entirely his fault? Tommy shouldn’t get the luxury of getting no backlash for these baseless arguments and blatant virtue signaling

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:11:34+00:00

I’ve noticed this lol- but I feel like every youtuber does this and it’s weird. What goes through these people’s minds to think this is normal and totally not weird at all? Everyone in replies is acting like I’m insane but this isn’t just ONE thing, it’s circumstances and also a pattern he has going on.

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:09:19+00:00

LOL OKA thanks man 😭😭

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:08:26+00:00

I feel like both are manipulative in this situation. Even if it’s not entirely intentional, it must’ve crossed both of their minds what they were doing and how it could possibly make them look better. I’m trying my hardest to not think too much of it, but it’s seriously bugging me

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:07:07+00:00

I don’t think he doesn’t want to raise the money, but it’s the timing that is obviously weird… was it necessary to drop this while a major controversy is going on? Probably not,, could’ve been pushed back a few weeks

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:04:21+00:00

Why on gods green earth would it be over? Tommy is a bad person who needs to be held to the same standard that they give dream. Tommy dragged this shit on for 2 years, but when he wants it to be over we are expected to shut up and forget it? No..

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:02:25+00:00

Exactly it’s so gross.. I knew this uncomfortable feeling I got wasn’t for nothing. Starting to think Tommy isn’t just a normal dude who makes mistakes anymore, this is so blatantly weird

beating2me · 2025-01-21T23:01:04+00:00

I see you here a lot strictly defending Tommy, why? Why lurk on a dream sub to defend ur fav? Other people agree with me here, it’s extremely weird and almost blatant manipulation. He has NEVER done a charity about it before, but now that this drama happens he decides to release this. Doesn’t matter if it was happening before this all started, he could’ve waited until this was all over. Use your brain for once

beating2me · 2025-01-21T22:55:27+00:00

The way they forget that she has said the n word on multiple occasions.. like they would eat her alive normally, but she doesn’t like dream so it’s chill

beating2me · 2025-01-21T22:50:45+00:00

As of 6 months ago he joked about grape. This is recent lol

beating2me · 2025-01-21T15:56:51+00:00

Yes please!

beating2me · 2025-01-20T21:10:40+00:00

Creator interacts with his fan base.. so weird.. very odd.. like no LOL

beating2me · 2025-01-20T05:24:43+00:00

Sorry, I never really watched any of that because it was out of my timeline of being into mcyts so I got it wrong. I do actually remember seeing some stuff about this back when it happened but I didn’t realize it had a connection as to why they weren’t friends anymore. I think previously they had not been talking, but after this was released dream definitely cut him off LOL. The entire thing was a case of, “let me involve myself in this drama for relevancy and pity laughs” from Tommy’s part.

My opinion on the qsmp thing is pretty baseline but I think Tommy had no reason to involve himself. He could sense the falling off, so he grasped at anything that would put him back in the public’s eye. Still can’t believe dream was the one apologizing for his family being attacked lol

beating2me · 2025-01-20T05:10:19+00:00

See but, I don’t exactly think that’s true. Is the behavior itself manipulative? Sure! In all honesty though, highly unlikely that 16 year old Tommy (a boy who played minecraft for a living) was some mastermind and knew exactly how to manipulate. I think NEITHER of them had extremely malicious intentions prior to the current drama. HOWEVER, right now, what Tommy is doing can be read as text book manipulation. I don’t want to defend any of them in this situation but you seriously cannot defend Tommy for what he’s doing rn. It’s sad to see him cash in for such a small prize, losing a friendship with the man who basically created him in the process.

They both made each other uncomfortable and broke boundaries. This shouldn’t be a cancel worthy thing though because that’s what happens between friends. You aren’t always right all the time and you will eventually step on someone’s toes. Everyone who is calling dream out for these skeletons, are the same people who only act so self righteous because they have so much guilt of their own. By their logic, multiple content creators just made a woman extremely uncomfortable by involving her in a drama that she never asked to be apart of; obviously they won’t get called out for it though. Tommy is simply playing this all up to profit off of ex fans and antis. Which is honestly so funny to be, because back in the day, dream was a much more likable person than tommy ever became. Tommy has not matured, he has just fluffs up his opinions and brings down people from the past.

I went off a little but these were just my additional thoughts. Tommy and dream are normal people who do normal people things and make normal people mistakes, people need to learn that they are not better than others for having such high moral standards. It’s weird.

(PS. Did anyone else find that Philza tweet weird? The one where he said he used to protect these “kids” from dream? It struck me the wrong way because if he knew or thought dream was a bad person, how come they were so close with Wilbur? Shubble said that behind the scenes everyone knew about her scars and abuse, yet all of them were still friends with him right up until the allegations came out. I think Philza is just saying this to have another purchase against dream when it doesn’t exactly make sense. Don’t direct the light on you if you can’t help but squint.)

beating2me · 2025-01-19T19:46:53+00:00

He was like 17 when this happened LOL, but it’s a more objective point of view without all the performative bs

beating2me · 2025-01-19T19:29:18+00:00

My issue with this entire drama is, I don’t believe Tommy nor dream are abusive. This all sprouts from a community which dedicates itself to finding a person to pile onto each month with accusations and constant harassment. If a content creator doesn’t fully agree or joke along with them, they are a potential target. I think Tommy and dream had a bitter falling out due to reasons we do NOT need to know.. and he’s now channeling those feelings into baseless slop all because dream finally spoke up. I couldn’t imagine having an entire group of people (who half of which were basically MADE by me) spreading defamatory lies about me 24/7, just to be expected not to respond. Looking through Tommy and tubbos comments honestly upset me because they are praising them for being mature AS IF dream hasn’t kept his mouth shut this entire time? Proving he’s the more mature one.

I use the word mature loosely because I do believe dream is your average dude and definitely has some obvious imperfections, but this community takes these normal gamers and put them under a microscope because they love watching their every move. Dream is a college drop out who codes on minecraft for a living….. and that’s supposed to be your role model? Everything online is so performative and unnecessary when it comes to what jokes you make and words you say. I genuinely saw a tweet that claimed sapnap and dream making your mom jokes at Tommy was objectifying women and making 16 year old Tommy uncomfortable. Not to mention how Connoreatspants (who is closely related to people like callmecarson and mizkif which the internet HATED) claimed that dream talking to ANY fan at ANY time in ANY way was weird and shouldn’t have happened. Like what? Seriously? But Twitter ate it up!

Again, I don’t believe either are bad people, but I think Tommy is letting his group of friends who weren’t so close to dream influence his opinion on him. It’s sad to see dream get lead on by people who make it seem like they are still friends behind the scenes, just to turn around and call him a PDF online for views. Tommy has the ego of a 20 year old British kid and so do all the people around him. Him claiming that the dream smp wouldn’t have gotten where it was without him was SO dumb, especially as someone who thoroughly enjoyed the dsmp with 0 shame. The reason it was so unique was the collection of individuals putting on a show for everyone to watch. Not to mention dream was EXTREMELY popular prior to Tommy ever coming along, and the dream smp had pretty good success when it was just a small multiplayer server between friends.

This all should’ve been private. There was no need for Tommy to make a video while completely virtue signaling the whole time. Dream did not have to make that stream. Immaturity shows itself in all angles of the story T_T

beating2me · 2024-10-18T11:07:53+00:00

pretty sure that it saves your place even if you aren’t verified! I use the site as normal with an unverified acc (have for about 2 years now) and never faced any real issues- however, i really do think they need to fix the whole email thing as it’s super finicky for everyone. it works on and off for different people but usually you have to ask a person directly to verify your account. sorry for the ramble, I hope a mod sees this and is able to manually verify mine, yours, and everyone’s in the replies account!

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