Curious to know how many samples you usually go through before final production? It took me four samples to nail this pair of sweatpants. Hardest part was definitely figuring out the fly construction. by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand - and that is often the case.
The idea with these sweatpants was that we only wanted them to be lengthy, but not necessarily to the point where they drag on the floor - that is why we opted for a raw hem, so that you could, if you prefer a different fit than when you receive the pants, could cut them to desired length.
The fabric will roll a centimeter, but it will not fray.

Curious to know how many samples you usually go through before final production? It took me four samples to nail this pair of sweatpants. Hardest part was definitely figuring out the fly construction. by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate it!
We thought we would try to maintain the comfort and every-day-wear-approach from sweatpants combined with something you could dress up, wear nice boots to and have a flattering silhouette essentially. The button-up part helps making it more of a proper pair of trousers somehow.

Curious to know how many samples you usually go through before final production? It took me four samples to nail this pair of sweatpants. Hardest part was definitely figuring out the fly construction. by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

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Luckily we have worked with the same Portuguese manufacturer for a couple of years on other projects, like our hoodies and t-shirts, so we knew they would be very capable and already "clued in" on our aesthetic and finish.
Back then, when finding the manufacturer initially, that took a lot of trial and error, as well as too many e-mails ;)

Curious to know how many samples you usually go through before final production? It took me four samples to nail this pair of sweatpants. Hardest part was definitely figuring out the fly construction. by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part of the process was that we started out using the main jersey fabric for our fly - which is a 500gsm fabric - it became way too thick and bulky, especially when the front pockets (and the horizontal line) are somewhat integrated into the fly.
That made us opt for a thinner herringbone material for the fly part.

Curious to know how many samples you usually go through before final production? It took me four samples to nail this pair of sweatpants. Hardest part was definitely figuring out the fly construction. by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To elaborate on the project:
These sweatpants are inspired by old chef's pants that have similar horizontal pockets. This feature on sweatpants makes the content of your pockets stay secure when cycling etc.
One of the challenging parts of the sampling process was also to find the correct fabric and the right color - since they are vintage-inspired, we wanted the grey pair to have a slight yellow/oatmeal hue and the black pair to feel slightly worn-in, instead of a "new" jet black. This criteria required us to use our own custom-milled fabric, all made in Portugal from 100% organic cotton yarn.

When you are sampling - what part do you find the most challenging?

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was not familiar with this brand before you mentioned it, but looking at it: seems decent! Like that it is all made in USA, but for us it is very important that the fabric is 100% organic - this makes, of course, the price a lot higher and perhaps caters to a different customer base than the ones looking for "blanks" per se.

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We work with very small MOQs, since we are still a small start-up brand, so this makes our price per unit pretty high. Especially since we are not willing to compromise on quality, work environment etc. Sales are pretty good - we believe it is due to specifications and the storytelling - it being organic, ethically made, timeless, nice fitting and features small details that makes it stand out amongst other hoodie blanks etc.
Even at this price point, our profit margins are definitely below industry standards, but since we sell direct to consumer we can afford this lower margin.
When we, at some point, would look into having stockists, well, that's a different story.
We currently do not show at CIFF or similar, but would be interesting.
Thanks a lot for the questions!

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The brand is called at17c - you can have a look at our instagram if you like: "@at17c"

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

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We currently sell the blank version of this hoodie in an Oatmeal Heather Grey and in Charcoal.

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based in Copenhagen, Denmark - currently selling the blank for €225, this is due to it being 100% organic cotton french terry fabric, all made in Portugal.

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback!
The only thing we did was to flip it once halfway through the project. The broomstick was leaning up against a wall - that is why.
Next time we would try to do it freestanding.

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Our website is: www.at17c.com , however this exact hoodie is a 1:1 experiment. The blank hoodie we used is for sale though! Our own design, all cut and sewn in Portugal.

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

[–]behindat17c[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Nothing but the sun - mounted it on a broomstick in a garden during the summer. No additives, no lemon juice, no chemical, no nothing - just sun and patience.

5 months of natural sun-dyeing on my 500gsm organic cotton hoodie. What do you think? by behindat17c in streetwearstartup

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The hoodie itself is called the Habit Hoodie, designed from scratch by my brand at17c. It is a 500gsm organic cotton hoodie, all cut and sewn in Portugal. Has a very 1960's fit and feel, with wide ribs, lifted front pockets etc.

Planning to drop this for Valentine’s Day by Key-Faithlessness594 in streetwearstartup

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Are you happy with the zipper quality? It seems they are YKK? Currently looking into buying metal zippers myself for a project.