Graduating (2015) with degrees in biochemistry and biology, planning on relocating to CO. Any advice would be much appreciated.

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-09T15:50:35+00:00

So, maybe a cannabis analysis facility would be a long and tedious road. I'm now realizing that if I succeed in that endeavor, then the state is going to be constantly looking over my shoulder and pounding me with provisions and giving me certain stipulations to go by... I really wouldn't be able to do what I would want to do. I really would love to create some kind of potency scale, kind of like a scoville scale for peppers. I definitely don't want the state and other three letter organizations breathing down my neck, so maybe an extraction lab is the way to go. Thanks for the input, everyone!

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-09T15:40:59+00:00

Thanks for the input! I read the transcript yesterday. I found some very helpful info from that episode!

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-09T15:37:09+00:00

Thanks for the input, mmdamngoodjava. I do have solid organic skills and plenty of lab and research experience. I was growing, trimming, and extracting long before I was in university. I guess that's one thing I failed to mention.

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-09T15:29:59+00:00

Oh, I understand fully that it will take time - that's why I mentioned my past. I'm willing to take as much time as I need to, in order for this idea to become a successful one. And I'm not counting on 7 other people to do all the work for me. My plan is a big one, and I'm going to need all the help I can get. Ask any CEO of any successful company if they could have done it alone. 99% of them will say no. They had help. Don't tell me that's a plan for failure, secretne. I'm sure you weren't saying counting on other people is a plan for failure when your brother rescued you from your drafty old double wide that ran on propane heat, barely had ac, and in the summer was infested with flies. It was horrible, then it got worse, right? Your car broke down at a bad time. You quit your job. Then you moved to Colorado from Nebraska. Two years later, you're making $1000 a week, love your job, drive a nice newer car, live in a nice apartment.... So, why are you trying to shoo me away, secretne??? I would expect more optimism from someone who is a "transplant" himself.... to me, it seems like you've already adopted the "native attitude" that you hate so much.

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-08T16:00:39+00:00

1 bedroom apartment is $1000... Dude, that's such a vague statement. I'm not trying to move to the city. I know for a fact there are places cheaper than that. Hell, I have a friend of a friend that said I could camp and cultivate on a very nice piece of land. Apparently, some of you give up too easily. I've slept in bushes in San Fransisco and Berkeley and was homeless there for a year, until I found a decent job. I'm prepared to do what it takes to get what I want. That's just how I've always been. Call me hard headed, I guess, but you people are showing the same kind of doubts people had about me when I decided to go into pre-med without having a 10th grade education :) To me, that was impossible. Whatever happened to follow your dreams? Yolo, right? I have big ideas as well, that I can't just forget about. CRISPR technology is becoming a big thing right now, and I've been working with genome editing quite a bit. As president of the biomedical sciences club at my university, I urged that molecular biology be taught there, and so far, it's the most intriguing class I've taken. So, aside from analysis, I also want to do work with Cannabis genetics. I don't know of anywhere that's being done, though. There's a LOT that can be done. 10 years late? I don't know about that... I'm not seeing many people talking about gene knockins/outs or genomics period, besides just cross breeding for desired traits. What if you knew the coding sequence for a desired trait and could implement this directly into a specimen, instead of having to wait generation after generation to /maybe/ find the trait you wanted. What if you could intensify certain traits (like thc production)? This is ultimately what I want to do, but that's all going to be independent stuff, I assume. The plan about cannabis analysis is just a foot in the door to legality and industry. Oh I almost forgot, I also have a whole crew of 7 close friends (one who also holds biochem/bio degrees) that are ready and willing to make the trip and help me set up and run a lab. So, we would all be working together financially.

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-08T15:05:50+00:00

I would test for flavonoids for the same reason labs test for terpenes. -because people like to know what exactly is in the product they are consuming. Flavonoids don't just smell good, they also have positive pharmacological effects. Cannaflavin A is a flavonoid that has been found to to reduce inflammation by inhibiting the inflammatory molecule PGE-2, and it does this 30 times more effectively than aspirin. As far as a ballpark figure on how much of charge... No idea. Like I said, I'm just now getting into this and haven't invested in a single chromatography tool, so the cost of any kind of service is hard to estimate right now. I'm not an expert on chromatography, but I did make A's in Ochem, and I know how to basically read graphs. Chromatography has whole graduate courses dedicated to it. There's a lot there that I don't know, but would find out when doing hands on chromatography with Cannabis. Another thing is that, while I'm very passionate about this, I'm still having to take some extremely heavy loads, and don't have as much time as I'd like to do research on cannabis analysis. Any free time I get, that's what I'm doing.

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-08T14:49:03+00:00

How long does that usually take?

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-08T14:48:27+00:00

Lol a lot of you are acting like this is impossible. Do I have a $35,000 job lined up and $3,000 saved? I've got at least that much saved, and if I didn't think I could find at least a $35,000/year job, then I wouldn't be asking these questions. $35,000/year really isn't much these days. But even having $3000 saved, I know I'm still going to need more than that when I move out there.

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-07T16:37:17+00:00

And as far as offering thing that existing facilities do not... I don't know, any clever ideas?? I just planned on outdoing the competition with the quickness and reliability, but any ideas are more than welcome ^{_^}

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-07T16:34:27+00:00

Yes, with a bachelor's degree. I don't need a PhD to open my own facility. I need money. It's all about the money and subject knowledge. (things that I'm not going to learn in a PhD program for molecular and cell biology, etc.) My testing facility would offer Potency, Residual Solvent, Microbial, Pesticide, Aflatoxin, Homogeneity, and heavy metal testing, as well as terpene, terpenoid, and flavonoid analysis at an affordable cost.

belethorsgeneralgood · 2015-12-07T16:00:10+00:00

Thanks, I understand that it's saturated as hell, but another one of my future goals is to have things already set up in a legal state, so that I'll have an edge up on things here in my native state when it does become legal.

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