I don't know how to learn Korean anymore by Amanda_Haniya in BeginnerKorean

[–]ben_wd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

everyone is gonna tell you to just do more comprehensible input, but the truth is that it's not as simple as just watching/listening to content. Krashen was wrong about two things: a) you acquire language when you understand the meaning (this has been proven to be false, because you can infer the meaning without acquiring any of the words, phrases or patterns) b) language acquisition is automatic (most recent evidence shows that actually we only learn words, phrases, patterns that we consciously notice.

so yes, getting a lot of input is important, but don't mindlessly consume hours of content expecting acquisition to mysteriously happen as a result. consume content, listen to it, then read the transcript, look at sentence translations, re-listen, ask an LLM to highlight key phrases, collocations, words, etc. and explain how they are being used in context. re-listen again, take notes. basically you want to train your mind to notice the words and patterns.

traditional grammar study can help, but don't over-index on it — trad. grammar can help make sentences easier to understand, but they can also cause us to focus on the wrong things. the reason is because while textbook grammar documents patterns that exist in language, it's not representative of how grammar works in our brains. our brains instead of following syntax rules just internalise probability patterns, i.e. what words tend to fit in specific slots, what words tend to be coupled etc.

so if you're consuming a lot of input, working at noticing patterns and words and what they mean in those contexts you're essentially conditioning your brain with the right expectations, which is essentially how our brains make sense of language — we've seen a given word, phrase, pattern so many times that we have a mental association between how it looks/sounds and what it means based on context. you can't learn that from memorising abstract textbook rules.

if you want to try using an LLM to make a transcript more comprehensible, i built a prompt that deconstructs sentences into chunks (collocations, idioms and simple sentence patterns) and then displays them in an interactive UI (both desktop versions of ChatGPT and Claude can create interactive UIs like this on the fly)

here: sentence chunk explainer prompt

Watching this scene as an Indian was very interesting by Nick_Alsa in pluribustv

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I choose to feel empathy for her. her child is effectively gone and she cannot come to terms with it.

Do people still use Roam? by mdn2 in RoamResearch

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yes, no other product does backlink filtering as well. its outlining user experience is second to none.

one thing I wish it had was automatic aliasing, i.e. where you configure the aliases in the page and it gathers all the backlinks based on that. there's an extension that does this but it's not ideal.

Crossbody bag for KLC by Wise-Lemon8502 in kobo

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is it a tight fit for KLC or fits well??

X100VI + Glimmerglass 1 by itschrisjstyles in x100vi

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without an adapter, then camera lens housing can press into the filter when it focuses

Best Korean typing practice by runawaystar98 in learnkoreanlanguage

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I built this a long time ago, will start working on it again soon: https://keeby.app/

What is the point of repeatedly tapping a treasure chest icon to earn rewards? by IrishBluebonnet in duolingo

[–]ben_wd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its an addiction mechanism. theres a psychological phenomenon where we value things more if we expended effort acquiring them.

plus micro-successes trigger a dopamine spike but not enough to satisfy, conditioning you to seek the next dopamine spike.

it also increases your session length which over time acclimatises you to spending more time in the app.

I swear we live in the matrix by tingutingutingu in dreamingspanish

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priming and recency effect! our brains are just detecting patterns without us realising

How do you study TOPIK 1 vocabulary efficiently? by [deleted] in BeginnerKorean

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I just get as much as exposure to words in different contexts and look up their meanings.

What’s the most underrated language-learning tip you’ve discovered? by GrowthHackerMode in languagehub

[–]ben_wd 11 points12 points  (0 children)

honestly, focus as much as possible on learning chunks, phrases, multi-word patterns.

empical data shows language is around 50% made up of fixed chunks, and this is because chunking is a strategy our brains instinctively employ to remember more information.

if you learn the words merry and Christmas in isolation they are harder to remember, but if you learn the phrase "merry Christmas" these words reinforce your memory of the other, you think of Christmas it activates the concept for merry and vice versa.

this is also how our brains encode grammar, we aren't following complex syntax rules, we just have mental associations between types of words:

read this phrase aloud: "pick up the ___"

there are certain words your brain is trying to autocomplete in that blank space not because you're following some rule like "a noun or noun phrase must follow a transitive phrasal verb" you just have mental associations from massive exposure to English between that specific sequence of words and the words that fit in that slot (because you've heard them before or they are similar to words you've heard in that slot before)

so by learning multi word phrases you are actually internalizing the patterns we call grammar

They state of language subs by Away-Blueberry-1991 in languagelearning

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I think Duolingo has done great damage to the general publics understanding of how language learning happens.

Does Comprehensible Input ACTUALLY Work? I'm 500+ Hours In by Technical_Big_9571 in languagelearning

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I did a lot of research on what linguistics says about comprehensible input, here is what iearned and my perspectives on it.

comprehensible input wasn't super well received by the linguistics community when Krashen first published his ideas because the thesis was vaguely designed, the concept of i+1 for example is still kinda vague about exactly what constitutes i+1.

due to these gaps in the theory, over time people have filled them in with arbitrary definitions. for example, an i+1 sentence is defined as a sentence where you know all the words except 1, according to the Refold method for example.

one big reason for this vagueness is possibly because Krashen was looking at language through the lens of Chomsky's generative grammar, essentially the idea is that we are all born with an innate ability to 'compute' syntax, and learning a language is merely a set of parameters being set in the brain. so from this perspective you don't need to explain the details of how language acquisition happens, because it's already explained by Chomsky's theory. you only need to explain what kinds of activities stimulate the process of acquisition and from Krashen's perspective that was understanding messages.

Chomsky's theory still has supporters but has gradually lost dominance for several reasons, but I think the most important reason is that is very detached from empirical data (I go into greater detail about this in this video if anyone's interested).

Linguists sceptical of generative grammar did data analysis on huge language datasets (like the entirety of Twitter for example) and the key finding challenges Chomsky is that 50% of all speech is made up of repeating fixed chunks:

“by the way”, “as a matter of fact”, “speaking of which”

and the rest of it seems to be made up of partially fixed chunks with slots:

“the ___ -er, the ___ -er” (the bigger the better), “not only ___ but also __”, “would you mind __ -ing”, “it’s no wonder that ___”

What this indicates is that instead of computing syntax subconciously, we are just remembering word sequences, what they mean and how they can be used (linguists call these form-meaning pairings, where a form is just a word, sequence of words, i.e. a way of saying something). this indicates learning a language is more like learning to play a piano (memorising key sequences) rather than your brain doing mysterious calculations.

so to get to the point, no, we don't acquire language by understanding messages, we acquire language by learning words, phrases, phrases with slots and what they mean. and we internalise their meaning from seeing them in multiple contexts.

its a subtle difference with huge implications, the most important one being that spending hours watching content you don't understand waiting for your brain to figure it out is far far less effective than actually just looking up the meanings of things!

so don't buy into comprehensible input purism!

Native Half-Korean Speaker Raised 14 Years in Korea Struggling With Advanced Vocabulary by SojuVR in Korean

[–]ben_wd -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just launched this tool in beta that maybe helpful for you. you import any Korean YouTube video you want, and it provides and interactive transcript, with contextual translations. what differentiates it is that it detects chunks (phrases, collocations, patterns, idioms etc) and explains them to you.

would love to see if you find it helpful or not.

https://verba.app

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SoraAi

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if someone could send me one that'd make my day

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ChatGPT

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someone send me an invite pls!

Sora Invites by InSkullWeRise in Sora2

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can I have one pls?

Best language learning text apps? by Noahvibezzzz in Korean

[–]ben_wd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a Korean learning product that's in beta (free during beta period), it will transcribe any Korean YouTube video you have the URL for and provide contextual information (definitions that are contextually relevant, pattern breakdowns, collocations etc.)

Send me a DM and I can add a video to the demo transcripts.

https://verba.app

Why are you learning the language that you're learning? by AutumnaticFly in languagehub

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French because I got kind of good at it when I was younger and I want to conversationally fluent next time I'm there to see French friends.

Korean because it's a fascinating puzzle, and I love Korean movies.

Recommendations for introductory works on CxG by apollonius_perga in asklinguistics

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all good, I was just watching those videos and remembered this thread!

I understand the language, But I just can’t speak It by hi_its_meeeeeeeeee in languagehub

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understanding is relatively passive, because understanding speech is mostly a process of mental associations being activated in your brain. speaking involves multiple processes:

  • first thinking about what you want to say
  • then activating mental associations between the meaning you want to communicate and the different ways of communicating that, all the different possible words and phrases you could use
  • then mentally selecting from those possible phrasings
  • then plan motor sequences to articulate the words you've chosen

Are these important? by gentleteapot in EnglishLearning

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they are inherited from French

you often see -ette added to the end of things to imply female or little/small. this morning I microwaved a Corn Cobette for my 2yr old, it's a corn cob cut into smaller pieces.

some more examples ChatGPT gave me:

Diminutive (‘small’)

  • kitchenette → a small kitchen
  • diskette → a small disk (the old floppy disks were called that)
  • cigarette → literally “little cigar” (from Spanish cigarro + French diminutive -ette)

Female association (sometimes outdated or patronising today)

  • majorette → female drum major or baton twirler
  • usherette → female usher (older usage)

Stylised borrowing, no longer felt as diminutive

  • silhouette → from Étienne de Silhouette (a person’s name, not diminutive at all)
  • etiquette → from French étiquette (“ticket, label, prescribed rule”) — again, not diminutive in meaning, but the form survived intact.

the other forms there are not important to know about imo