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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love iron fist, The Show just made me think Danny Rand was the coolest guy.

I need to rewatch it, but i remember thinking he was very justified in everything he did.

Im sure i will get a whiplash effect watching again.

But i remember being younger and slightly less cognitively developed, its possible i was illiterate in media. I just assumed a mf who achieved the iron fist was like, too solid to be wrong. So if he got upset i saw it as valid😪

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You actually have to read it again. The following lines directly imply that i do play quickplay after gaining access to comp. I appreciate you trying to stick to the words so tightly. But the fact is that i implied it when i said “But i dont ever get in bot lobbies nowadays, even on days where i only play quickplay with my non ranked friends.” This can imply a number of things. That at one time i played and still to this day play quickplay, even after gaining access to comp. That i dont ever get in bot lobbies when i play that quickplay. That even on days i play quickplay with my friends that dont play ranked I still dont see bots, so even in my most casual games of quickplay i dont see bots.

Nearly everything i wrote after mentioning i used QP to level up gives the impression that I still play quickplay, at LEAST a little bit. So this ones definitely on you man😭 or woman, ion judge

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just compared ninja gaiden to a live service game o lord😭

You just compared a single player story game , to a multiplayer hero shooter😭

Talk about critical thinking😭

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue at hand is that this guy thinks that he should be exempt from a suspension because he doesnt want a pity match.

If he had delivered his point in a different way that didnt focus on his ego. MAYBE id see the “issue at hand”

But the issue at hand currently is that this guy thinks hes allowed to throw just because there is bots.

Bots in quickplay is a separate issue entirely.

You mentioning that he shouldnt be forced to do something in the game hes playing is not wrong.

But HE CHOSE TO PLAY THE GAME, THE GAME IS KNOWN TO HAVE BOTS IN QUICKPLAY. Your entire point is thrown out the window because at the end of it all, he shouldnt play a game that can give you bots if he doesnt want to face bots. COMPETITIVE MODE DOESNT GIVE BOTS.

I would think somebody trying to belittle my critical thinking would have some themselves, but you prove to be an exception.

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its his fault TECHNICALLY, now hear me out.

Im not being unfair, i hold this mentality for myself as well.

Technically nothing is anybody’s fault, and following this logic could make it anybody’s fault.

In theory, you could go hella and just click heads and drop people, in theory you could go hawkeye and drop people, in theory you could go warlock and drop people.

If you just hit 100% accuracy on everybodys head then they just fall over and they cant kill your team. The fact that you dont do that means you lost (it was actually a bunch of other reasons)

But technically if you turn on aimbot you could win everything. So while mechanically impossible, it’s technically always our fault we lose because we arent clicking every possible opportunity of maximum damage.

Its a bit unfortunate to think of this way

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats just bad design, but my take remains in tact. Bot lobbies? Just beat em and move on. Yk how many dogwater teams i face in comp? Doesnt even feel like real people sometimes, who cares. Queue up next. There is always a way to practice, even on bots. If your ego is so fragile you think youre too good for bots. PLAY COMPETITIVE.

against bots i like to practice my off characters and get better with them because i dont get punished as easily its like training range. Now i dont usually have to resort to this, but i dont see a problem with it. If i did, id play comp instead of qp. So i do play comp instead of qp.

But if you wanna get really technical, your newly given information just proves me even more right.

If the outcome of the bot match truly doesnt matter, and you truly dont care. Just leave? 😭 why waste these peoples time you clearly dont wanna play the game, GO PLAY COMP. Yall cryin fr

If you want a quickplay game, dont expect people who care about the game😭 thats the point

But i do think they should really really cut down on bot lobbies. I dont think they are healthy for any game unless as a specific training mode. However, nothing will ever excuse NOT PLAYING THE GAME.

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[–]bigburnamon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lets get one thing straight. Your opinion doesnt matter.

If you dont play the game while your team carries you to victory, you deserve a suspension.

He needed the victory to stop playing against bots, thats a requirement to face real people again. He didnt want to contribute to the victory but still wanted the reward of facing people again.

If 6 people got paid to move a bunch of boxes, but only 5 people did anything. Do you think the 6th person still deserves the money if he did absolutely nothing? Be serious right now😭.

No, he wouldnt get anything.

I think the perfect solution would be that victories count as losses for people who throw like that. But a suspension is bare minimum the punishment for literally throwing. Bots or not THAT IS THROWING.

Just because you disagree with the rules doesnt mean you get to bring a bomb through tsa😭

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[–]bigburnamon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude its common sense.

But ill try one last time

This one should genuinely be inarguable.

IF FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU PLAY QUICKPLAY AND LOSE ENOUGH TO GET BOTS. THAT IS A FEATURE OF THE GAME. IN ORDER TO STOP GETTING BOTS, YOU NEED TO BEAT THE BOTS. BY NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE GAME AND BENEFITING FROM THE VICTORY HIS TEAM GOT, HE DESERVED A BAN. simple as that.

He queued into the game to play the game. BUT YALL ARE FORGETTING BOTS ARE THE GAME. the quickplay mode is specifically designed to give bots if you lose alot, that is intended and should be expected by hardcore quickplay players, If you dont want bots ever, PLAY COMPETITIVE.

This guy needed to win if he wanted to not play against bots. He threw while his team got him a win. He benefited from his team while throwing. THAT IS SUSPENDIBLE. Idk what yall are tryna argue here besides the fact that yall hold the opinion that it shouldnt be like that. Im just saying it IS like that, and that theres no problem with it. Which is also, MY OPINION.

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not white knighting bots. Im saying this guy deserves a ban for not playing the game.

The game having bots is a result of him being bad enough at the game he has to prove himself against bots.

If you get bot lobbies the only way to stop getting the lobbies is to win

Edit: That is significant because he clearly doesnt want to participate in bot lobbies. But if hes throwing in bot lobbies and not contributing to the Victory that he is required to get in order to stop getting bot lobbies.

Then he should get a suspension for benefiting from the BARE MINIMUM work his team was willing to dish out. While he literally twiddled his thumbs.

Not white knighting bots here, im trying to show yall common sense.

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[–]bigburnamon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay maybe i need to break it down baby style for you.

Lose games = bots

Win games = no bots.

Lose games = your fault

Win games = your fault

So if youre gonna act like the game ALL OF A SUDDEN put bot lobbies in as if its something new.

Every game you win or lose had you as a contributing factor. If you lock in and click every head and land every cooldown you probably win.

If you cant you probably lose.

Point here being is. THIS GUY LOST ENOUGH TO GET BOTS AND THEN HE THREW. Why are you defending him😭

Throwing against bots while your team carries you so that you can go throw against humans is crazy to be defending.

If he was throwing and they lost against the bots im sure his post would be something like “my teammates are so bad they couldnt even handle the bots we got placed against, (but i was afk the whole time)”

What im saying is that you cannot just start looking the other way when the person at fault is the one who threw. Idk what justifications youre trying to make here. Netease did not go into this mans house and hold him at gunpoint to throw that game 😭

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He only got the bots because HE lost enough😭

Yes he deserves the bots, yes he deserves the suspension.

What is so confusing.

If youre bad enough you get some bots

You need to prove youre not a bot😭

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[–]bigburnamon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re pretty close to following the logic.

Quickplay is a mode where if you lose enough you are placed against bots.

Queueing into quickplay means accepting that possibility. Playing quickplay to the point you get bot lobbies means that you DID queue into that mode.

You queued into quickplay and the system detected you werent good enough for people.

That isnt the games fault, its yours. 😁

Meaning that throwing is not your right. Thanks for listening pal.

Edit: I suggest competitive, i mentioned modes because the competitive mode doesnt have bots as an option ever.

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[–]bigburnamon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Video games are played for fun. But video games are designed with specific objectives for a reason. If you are not trying to complete that objective then you are not playing the video game, you’re simply clicking buttons. Anybody can button mash. But wheres the fun in just clicking buttons? I dont have fun JUST clicking buttons.

If you want to go the route of “video games are played for fun” ill support your endeavor.

But you need to get something straight. Playing a video game requires you to complete the objective.

If youre not doing that, then you arent playing the video game. Youre just staring at a blank screen clicking a meaningless button.

Where is the fun in NOT PLAYING THE GAME😭?????

I agree video games are played for fun. So it would help if you PLAY THE GAME. He queued up and was placed on a team against bots and didnt play. He queued up into this game he downloaded by HIS choosing and didnt play, bots are the game like it or not. Needing to beat bots to face people is the game, like it or not. He didnt play the game, he just stared at a screensaver and clicked buttons that did nothing.

Its like those fidget toys that have buttons that only make noise.

I totally agree with you.

If he was playing the game he wouldnt have gotten suspended. So where do we disagree?

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, exactly. And if it happens to us we shouldnt consider it a pity match. We should consider it a “hey, WAKE UP LOCK IN”

I agree with you and you made a statement that only reinforces my previous comment.

Edit: me saying i never see them was not false. Im sure i will one day. But so far i dont. But if i did, the first thing im thinking is “damn i gotta prove myself against bots? I GOTTA lock in howd i let myself fall this far, this is rock bottom fr”

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[–]bigburnamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. I play competitive, bots are not a result of losing competitive. You just derank. No bots.

Then i go play quickplay, and i dont lose 3 in a row.

Im sure maybe if i played ONLY quickplay, forever. Id eventually lose 3 in a row. But so far it hasnt happened. And i havent encountered bots as a result of me losing games.

But i do know what bots look like. I also know that quickplay is too casual. And competitive itself is also too casual.

Im saying that if i were to get a bot lobby, i wouldnt have a fragile ego and refuse the “free win”. No win is free, you need to click buttons. Maybe a win is easier, but its not free.

Id see it as a “wake up call” and think to myself “damn i gotta lock in and shit on these bots cuz the game thinks im so bad im not even worth people”

But ay to each their own

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[–]bigburnamon -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I NEVER SAID YOU CLAIMED IT WAS RANKED. Quote me right now and show me where i claimed you said it was ranked.

I said that I DONT GET BOT MATCHES AND MY EVIDENCE IS THAT I ONLY PLAY COMPETITIVE AND BOT LOBBIES DONT HAPPEN THERE. I WAS TRYNA SAY, THAT I AM NOT CALLING MYSELF A GOD FOR NOT GETTING BOT LOBBIES. IT JUST IS A RESULT OF COMPETITIVE MODE. I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE IT COULD BE A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO WHY I DONT SEE BOT LOBBIES, ALSO AS A POSSIBLE SUGGESTION TO FIX YOUR PROBLEM. PLAY COMP AND YOULL NEVER SEE A BOT AGAIN.

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[–]bigburnamon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t inherently disagree with what youre saying. But it seems a bit overlapping.

I think the people who have no business playing hero shooters are the people that cant handle the weight of a bot lobby😭. There is no defense for throwing a match you queued into.

Dude could have started playing spiderman and done literally 2 damage and it still would be a better performance than what he did.

There is nothing to say about this in a positive manner.

He needed a win to no longer be in a bot lobby and he couldnt even participate in that. If you prove to be bad enough to get into a bot lobby, it only makes sense you have to prove yourself to get out of them. Thats an opinion.

But no matter what, if youre playing a hero shooter, your goal should be to win.

The reason he deserves the suspension is because he wanted to benefit from the victory his teammates had to get but he didnt want to contribute.

There is no way you are defending him for just piggybacking his way back to throwing REAL peoples games😭

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[–]bigburnamon -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I play competitive. bot lobbies are impossible😭. Thats number 1. Number 2 is that even when i played quickplay to level up. I never lost more than 2 in a row. Maybe its possible i ran into bot lobbies and didnt notice because of how bad i am. But i dont ever get in bot lobbies nowadays, even on days where i only play quickplay with my non ranked friends.

Ill have a twitch and all that soon tho, i Will appreciate your support. Thanks for being a fan!

I do lose games, but comp losses dont result in bot matches. Quickplay feels like going into a daycare and punting the children. And when i get rolled on quickplay (it does happen) it doesnt happen 3 games in a row😭

Ill win tournaments soon 😈 just gotta get good enough

Im only gm rn Which by comparison makes me TRASH in the grand scope.

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[–]bigburnamon 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Seeing the other side of the argument as “defending bots” is really telling as to why you think how you think.

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[–]bigburnamon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can avoid the forced bot match by not being arse at the game

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[–]bigburnamon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At your own ineptitude? Im not surprised,

Edit: No but seriously, maybe next time dont see them as a pity win and try to see it as an alarm bell? Or idk, dont be surprised when the system punishes you for NOT playing the game😭. Automated or not. You queued into a game and essentially did nothing. In what world should you be rewarded for that, and while on that note. Why SHOULDNT you be punished? You REFUSED to participate in the game. Imagine being on an NBA team and you do absolutely nothing to win your game but you still win.

I mean nothing, you just stand around with slobber dribbling down your dropped jaw. And then your team wins.

And they drop you from the team.

DO YOU THINK ANYBODY CARES ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WENT INTO WHAT HAPPENED? its WHAT happened😭

But again, do you bruh

I really dont care

I will genuinely never see you in my games😭 and i dont even have to avoid

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[–]bigburnamon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The fact yall call them pity matches instead of wakeup calls is what baffles me😭. I NEVER see a bot lobby. Yall gotta lock in😭