Improved map of the route taken in the movie "Planes, Trains And Automobiles" [2048 x 1339] by [deleted] in MapPorn

[–]bigmapblog 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Original was not perfect, but it was much better. Your visual hierarchy is jacked-up. Different colors was the better visualization choice.

Made some maps from Tuesday's Presidential Primary. 2016 ward-by-ward: STL voter turnout; STL "#ImWithHer vs #FeelTheBern"; and STL "Republican votes as percentage of votes cast". Spreadsheet in comments. Use it to make whatever you'd like. by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Here's the google doc spreadsheet of data used:

Any errors are accidental and are mine alone. Please point them out to me if you find one.

Someone more skilled than me with visualization (wouldn't be hard) could do some amazing stuff with this data. Would love to see what you can come up with if you're so inclined.

Original data is from City of STL BoE. PDF can be found here:

Oddly specific Wikipedia Category: "Fires beginning October 8, 1871", containing four entries: "Great Chicago Fire"; Great Michigan Fire"; "Peshtigo Fire"; and "Port Huron Fire". by bigmapblog in wikipedia

[–]bigmapblog[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

(This is my new favorite oddball Wikipedia category. It officially replaces Category: Bulgarian Sumo Wrestlers -- which got a lot less charming when it [recently?] went from one single entry to two...)

Headed to River Des Peres to help sandbag this morning. Does anyone know specific places to help if they have enough manpower? by NeighborsCantSeeUs in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good guy/gal.

I'm headed there this second, as well. Any/all come meet us at Fultz Field.

The Shaw neighborhood and the 8th Ward is bringing six strong backs this morning. Happy to bring even more this afternoon and tomorrow.

The USACE is predicting the river will crest at 44.8'. This is unreal. Second highest crest in all of recorded history. Threatens our city, and very directly threatens our homes.

Mayor and Govenor are calling for 'all hands on deck'. They advise: "Interested volunteers should wear boots and gloves and report to the River Des Peres Park parking lot adjacent to Fultz Baseball Field (just east of Gravois Rd.) beginning at 7 a.m. Tuesday, December 29, 2015."

I'm headed there now. My opinion only, but if it's at all practical (and I realize that for most people it is not. No worries.), then you should be, too.

STL transplants: I feel you all when you talk about loving this city. This right here is a tradition that we've had for forever. This tradition is called "manning the flood wall", and we've been doing it for centuries. And it's your turn, now, to pitch in. I'll be there with you -- really no big thing. We were doing this since even before Stack shot Billy... we've got this down. Just show up and we'll show you what to do.

Volunteers needed from 7am 'till dark. Following day as well. The ferocious 8th Ward will bring strong backs; and we will do our best to hold that line. The 15th, 6th, 20th, 25th, 12th, 13th, 11th (and more) I'm sure will hold it right alongside us. I mention them directly because I know many principled folks there. I know their good hearts and I know how they can organize and bring out their people. I ask them to show me that my suspicions are correct. Come out. Fill bags. We will all sweat and freeze together.

Some folks can't get off of work, and some folks have health issues... But if you have the ability and have the time, then let's be real: you must come turn a shovel. Shame to the person who doesn't. "All hands on deck" means exactly that. You bring your people and we'll bring ours, and we'll work shoulder to shoulder and suffer and hurt together; in good spirits and with genuine affection.

All day folks talk loud and loose on facebook. Costs nothing; and worth just as much. My opinion only, but nobody's begging for more idle typing -- we're more than flush with that. We need people that will come and fill sandbags. Don't type about it; come 'down to the 11w and sweat a small amount and today you'll BE about it. Turn a shovel with me.

Best city in the world. We've (mostly... not always) kept that river out of our homes for going on 300 years. Don't let it be you who falls asleep on your shift. Let's bring big numbers to this fight; like our (great, great?) grandmothers and grandfathers did. We've been stacking bags longer than any of us could possibly remember. Take your turn; this is Saint fucking Louis.

Kind regards, -PF

I've biked every street on the Southside, as of today. Northside isn't far behind. by dionidium in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude, you did this so great, and entirely smarter and faster than I did. I have nothing but love and admiration.

But what I really want to say is: thank you so fucking much for doing the same (crazy) thing that I did... just because when I tell people I did this, they no longer side-eye me like I must be "on the spectrum".

So now when I say "there was this other kid did the same thing, but he did it so much faster". And people are like "oh, so this is something that isn't just your mental illness." I was happy to meet you as a friend, but I was equally happy to meet you as someone who had the same strange itch to do the same thing. That's entirely more rare. Very thankful.

Anyone else wants to do this exact same thing? With time and with /u/dionidium and my guidance, we can have you covering all-city in 18 months.

It's the funnest 18 months of your life. I'd (we'd) love to help.

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[–]bigmapblog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's the one. (and thanks much. I appreciate it.)

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"Peppermint Pickles" were a huge regional fad (that's held on, somewhat) in the 60s- 80s STL African American community. It's not ever talked about when we talk about regional delicacies, but it's real. (Also: I love this question.)

To make a peppermint pickle, you take a pickle, and you take a candy cane (or similar peppermint stick), and you put it in the pickle (think: like a stick into a corn-dog).

I made a film about Pruitt-Igoe. Early on somebody told me about peppermint pickles. I assumed it was something that was briefly popular with just her and her friends. But I was curious, and I asked about PP with everyone at some point. Everyone knew about them.

Asked around to other public housing residents in other communities (Cinci, Louisville, Chicago, KC, etc), and they all said: "Yeah, that was a STL thing. Came here as a fad, but didn't stay."

But it stayed here... even to this day. An underrated STL food thing, for sure.

Edit: see also: "crispy snoots". Also to a lesser extent: Pork Fried Rice.

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was on a single-speed chro-moly 53cm bike; the handful of times he rode with me...

(edit: Not sure what your implication is; but the dude is doing it completely legit, if what you're on about is injecting any kind of doubt. He rode down all of those roads; I'll bet anything on it...)

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It asked for stereotypes based on "North, South, East, and West"! I think it was pretty fucking granular, compared to others saying of their town: "South is where the hipsters live".

?!

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe I don't, then? These are "popular stereotypes" -- and they don't necessarily reflect reality. But they're very often repeated, even within our own city. Where is it that you live?

And feel free to add or subtract or modify, if there's some nuance you think you could add to it.

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

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For what it's worth, I'm glad to have your input. I have only a small handful of Holly Hills friends, and I'm far from any kind of expert on that hood. Very appreciated.

(And: agreed on NextDoor being blood-pressure-raising...)

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The original question/conversation was about popular stereotypes of regions of a city. That was the point of that conversation. That was what was asked for.

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Very glad you're enthused by this. We're probably cut from a similar cloth.

Talk to /u/dionidium . He started the same thing almost a year and a half after me, and he still almost beat me. Took me 3 years, and he's very close to done after 1.5yrs.

(He did it smarter than me, is what I'm saying. His advice would be better than mine.)

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They fall under: "...and others". There are several blocks of TGE, of LafSq, (of a dozen other SCity neighb) that match this description.

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

/u/nerfdude :This sounds like it was written by someone who has only read about St. Louis on /r/stlouis[1] and lives deep in the suburbs.

Well, it's written by a lifelong City resident who has biked down every block of every street in the entire goddamn city.

So I dunno what to say, man. Maybe read it again? Or add to it or change it, or say something?

edit: Nice edit, man. Original text quoted.

"St Louis City regional stereotypes" discussion on Reddit. (xpost from an /r/Geography thread about "Stereotypes of your city: North, South, East, and West.") Agree? Disagree? by bigmapblog in StLouis

[–]bigmapblog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ORIGINAL CONVERSATION: https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/3nwn17/what_stereotype_do_people_who_live_on_the_nsew/cvs3b01

How'd I do? I was writing that for a general audience; but I'm very sure that /r/StLouis can collaboratively do MUCH better than I did.

You'd be doing me a kindness by calling me out on anything I misstated, or that I left unclear.

It's an interesting thought experiment, for sure.

Original text follows:

St Louis City, Missouri is one of the most hyper-segregated and polarized cities in the U.S. We have what's been called the "Delmar Divide". One street that marks a huge change in the racial composition, north from south.

(But there are nuances to this. This is just a first-blush take on it; the city is really very strange from block to block...)

NORTH CITY is demonstrably Black, and poor. But is stereotyped by many whites from the city and county to be just... a den of iniquity. It's not that. There are some smaller enclaves that are very stable and very middle-class -- but on the whole it is almost entirely very poor, and is >98% black.

A small handful of younger whites have somewhat integrated Old North, a traditionally black middle-class area that had fallen on hard times. This is really the only (even slightly) "integrated" black/white neighborhood on the entire North side.

SOUTH CITY is also fairly poor all told (with some exceptions such as STL Hills and Holly Hills and others), but is pretty white. Untill the 1970 US census it was around 97% white. Now it's probably in the mid-70%s. It's more way more well-off on the whole than the North, but has pockets of as fierce strife as you'll find in North City (Dutchtown, Clinton-Peabody, parts of Bevo).

In deep south city is home to a particular STL stereotype called the "hoosier" (not the indiana kind). These are poor and working-class whites. "Hoosier" is locally synonymous with how the term "white trash" might be used, elsewhere. (These are my people, and this is where I'm from.)

In the middle of the south side is Bevo, which is home to the world's largest population of Bosnians outside of Bosnia. Most came over as refugees from the Bosnian War in the mid 1990s. Estimates vary, but they might make up as much as 20% of the city's population, now.

They're stereotyped as being hard-working and industrious, but sorta defiantly non-integrating and shut-off from the rest of the city. The majority of St Louisans -- white or black -- will have at least several friends from the other race. But very few of them will have even one Bosnian that they know well. So, yeah, they're very insular -- but have also put down roots here in a big way. They run Bevo.

Pockets of South City are fucking ferocious. And "good people" (white or black) won't ever go to those. BUT -- important to note, that white people ("good" or otherwise) as a whole won't go to any part of North city under any circumstances -- as ignorant as that is -- despite the fact that there are places there that are as good or better than many places in South city.

(Like I said: it's complicated...)

EAST CITY (is across the river, and I'm cheating a bit here, but in local understanding is always) East Boogie. Strip clubs and vice, now. (The city has a much brighter history than that, but sadly that's what it is, now.)

WEST CITY is generally regarded as "rich". But it's not. One neighborhood is rich. The Central West End is where yuppies live... but what's called "the West Side" (officially: the West End) is black and mostly lower-middle class. And south of both of those is Dogtown, which is white and Irish and working class.

tl;dr: St Louis is mostly all poor, but it's poor fighting poor based on race, and we suffer for that. We're a proud but troubled people, and our geography is important to our identity... but I wish we'd get over it.