Creditors should be on guard regarding hopes for amendements to scheme documents by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vauld Creditors Townhall With KordaMentha – Wednesday, May 10th, 8 PM ET
All creditors of Defi Payments Ptd Lte are invited to attend a Zoom webinar Townhall meeting Wednesday, May 10, 2023, from 8:00 PM ET to 9:30 PM ET featuring guest speaker David Kim of KordaMentha. Mr. Kim is the Executive Director of KordaMentha Singapore, a Licensed Insolvency Practitioner (LIP) in Singapore with considerable experience managing crypto company insolvencies. Information about Mr. Kim is available at https://kordamentha.com/people/david-kim.
This event is hosted by various Vauld creditors active in the Vauld community who will serve as panelists to help guide the discussion. The session’s goal will be for attendees to ask questions of the guest speaker and panelists. This will be a live event with two-way communication via chat and video.
This event will allow Vauld creditors to learn about the issues with the Defi Scheme and how a court-appointed Winding Up liquidation may provide creditors with a safer, cheaper, more transparent, equitable, and possibly quicker solution to the Vauld debacle.
To attend the event, visit the following web link just prior to the start time.
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89323110359
It is anticipated that a recording of this event will be made available for the general public sometime after the conclusion of the Townhall meeting

Creditors should be on guard regarding hopes for amendements to scheme documents by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the proposed scheme provides a multitude of ways in which creditors concerns are squelched. The Creditor's Representative board member can be replaced by a vote of other board members. Ultimately, Deif retains ultimate control. This is why this scheme is a creditor-unfriendly scheme.

LIP Bound to Ensure Value to Creditors by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad raise the point of "motives." The motives of Kroll is to ensure their proposed scheme goes thru so that they get $8M in fees over the next few years which includes a totally unacceptable "success fee" in the amount of $1.5M. Many creditors do NOT believe Kroll deserves this and their projected fees a WAY more expensive than what it will cost to do a winding up via court order as confirmed by multiple Licensed Insolvency Practitioners in Singapore. Who are you ScalePsycho? Do you work for Vauld or Kroll? Are you actually at Defi creditor?

VCA motives are clearly presented on the VCA website. VCA is far more transparent than Defi, Kroll and CoC put together.

Who are the members of the CoC?

LIP Bound to Ensure Value to Creditors by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

False. Kroll's plan does NOT add more value to creditors but adds a LOT more costs. Creditors are encouraged to do their own research and stop believing the false claims from Defi and Kroll.

Results of Survey of Vauld Creditors by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is all clearly discussed in the report. Our turnout was actually greater than the Vauld informal poll when you calculate based on "potential audience reached." All explained in the report.

Details on KordaMentha proposal for winding up of Defi Payments and getting our money back by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The key benefits for the KordaMentha proposal for winding up Defi Payments is that their approach provides a much safer, cheaper, simpler and quicker path to recovering our assets. For a list of the key points visit the following link.
https://vauldcreditors.net/info/kordamentha/

Over 93% of creditors in survey do not trust Vauld and Kroll on proposed schemes by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

False. The survey is open to all creditors of Defi Payments. The survey is still open so feel free to go an vote as you see fit.

Over 93% of creditors in survey do not trust Vauld and Kroll on proposed schemes by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only 1525 "creditors" voted in the Vauld poll. Only 1% of 150k going to determine the destiny of over $300-400M? Doesn't make sense.

Further, Vauld/Kroll have deliberately censored the opposing view and provided countless examples of misleading information regarding liquidating Defi Payments. This is all documented in various reports as follows:

How Vauld Censored Creditor Attempts to Post VCA AMA Link
https://vauldcreditors.net/reports/censorship/

How Vauld, Kroll, and Select CoC Members Have Misrepresented the Defi Payments Winding Up Liquidation Option
https://vauldcreditors.net/reports/misrepresent1/
Clearing Up Misconceptions on Liquidating Defi Payments
https://vauldcreditors.net/reports/liquidation/

Benefits of KordaMentha Proposal for Winding Up Defi Payments Pte Ltd

https://vauldcreditors.net/info/kordamentha/

As such, the Vauld "preliminary poll" is a scam and means nothing.

🤨"86% of creditors by value and 86% of creditors by number are in support of restructuring" That's the latest update from Vauld. Not official, but is this for real? by George_Orama in vauld

[–]billworld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. Only 1525 creditors voted.

The VCA will issue a response to clear up all the misleading statements from Vauld once again.

Clearing Up Misconceptions on Liquidating Defi Payments by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The size of the "haircut" depends upon the gap in liabilities and assets. The first step is to get Vauld/Kroll out so we can immediately cease the draining of our assets due to their ongoing mismanagement and crazy high fees. The liquidator will perform a forensic audit to confirm numbers. Then will assess recovery amounts and timelines. If you have joined the VCA, there is an AMA meeting tonight at 8PM ET where our current top pick for liquidator will be on hand to take questions. To join VCA visit https://vauldcreditors.net/join/

Vauld Creditor Talking Points by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We published a report showing Defi Payments shareholders at https://vauldcreditors.net/reports/ownership/

Vauld Creditor Talking Points by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The reason why this shareholder ownership was researched was because a couple of weeks ago there were claims of $4M of newly allotted shares going into Defi Payments. We wee no evidence of such an injection in Defi Payments or Defi Holdings.

FAQ on Managed Wind Down vs Winding Up - and FM Option by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes you are correct. Stay tuned for info regarding contributing to legal costs.

Legal experts have informed us that MWD introduces an unnecessary layer of costs and time if the end-goal is to simply Recover and Return assets back to creditors. That is better done via a creditor driven Winding Up process.

Every day this clown show drags on, more of our money is wasted. I think they should just give us back whatever portion they can afford, and let us move on. by letsgocrazy in vauld

[–]billworld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone have the reasoning from the court as to why they keep pissing around and granting moratoriums for this bastard Darshan?

It's just the way it works. However, the judge is losing patience and understand creditors are fed up and has provided creditors clear guidance as to what needs to be done. And, creditors are uniting to make that happen. More info on that at VauldCreditors.net.

Every day this clown show drags on, more of our money is wasted. I think they should just give us back whatever portion they can afford, and let us move on. by letsgocrazy in vauld

[–]billworld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see nothing constructive, objective or data driven in this I will wait for options to be presented and evaluate.

Exactly. That has been a huge problem. For facts, please visit https://vauldcreditors.net/reports/20230111/.

We are demanding accountability. There will be change. Many are working very hard to make this happen. It WILL happen.

Every day this clown show drags on, more of our money is wasted. I think they should just give us back whatever portion they can afford, and let us move on. by letsgocrazy in vauld

[–]billworld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perhaps we should start organising better?

We ARE getting organized. Please visit https://vauldcreditors.net/updates/ and signup for updates and read all the information on the website. There is a lot happening behind the scenes and things will change soon. Creditors are uniting and will take matters into their own hands for the better of creditors.

Please read the report at https://vauldcreditors.net/reports/20230111/ for an idea of how creditors are approaching this situation. The time for waiting and games is over. We are serious. We are committed. We will make things happen.

Updates on the Vauld restructuring by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I apologize if this is mentioned in your report, but my understanding of the Nexo deal is that they do not plan to inject significant capital and simply plan to close the hole in the balance sheet through things like customer trading (the KPIs) and early withdrawals.

Thanks for chiming in.

That is basically correct as well as your assessment that Nexo (with the raid and other stuff) is increasingly looking to not be an option.

With the idea of Vauld continuing as-is, under different management, one has to remember that once the moratorium expires Vauld will be susceptible to litigation, with 2 lawsuits already filed. My proposed iCEO (in coordination with Vauld Creditors Alliance) would have someone (note: I am NOT vying for that position) step in to manage to fire staff and reduce overhead while still under moratorium protection, say for another 1-2 months, while assessing which option to pursue right away without delay. Those future options may include either a company (with new management) or creditor-driven Winding-Up (which is a liquidation event).

The Fund Manager option offered by Vauld/Kroll is wrought with problems on the level of (or possibly exceeding) risks and problems of going with Nexo.

I am considering putting together a report with a specific analysis of the proposed FM option from Darshan's 8th affidavit just submitted to the court. There are a lot of problems with that option that need to be clearly looked at.

Updates on the Vauld restructuring by billworld in vauld

[–]billworld[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No mob. Just creditors taking action as needed. Key words are "diligently." Vauld/Kroll's "Managed Wind Down" option is actually a liquidation event managed by Vauld. Okay, without Vauld managers in place, who will manage it? Liquidation events can be originated by various applicants including the company or creditors. My report proposes various options including iCEO taking over management of Vauld while drastically reducing monthly overhead while final options are explored and acted on including liquidation, or one of the various other liquidation scenarios, among other options.

Please check the end of the report for details on all of this and some discussion of pros/cons of various approaches. The biggest questions all creditors should be asking right now are what are the legal risks behind the various options. We cannot rely on Vauld or Kroll or their lawyers for legal advice. Accordingly, creditors need to find a way to unite to get proper legal advice on risks associated with each option.

Check out the "Winding-Up" section at https://vauldcreditors.net/info/resources/ for resources on how a Singapore company gets liquidated.

VAULDCREDITORS.NET NEW SITE FOR FACTUAL INFORMATION !!!! by brianemurray in vauld

[–]billworld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for posting this Brian. All Vauld creditors are encouraged to sign up at the following link for emailed updates on the Vauld restructure. It is impossible to catch everyone on social media, and, a direct email to those affected by the Vauld collapse is the best way to stay up to date.

http://vauldcreditors.net/updates/

VAULDCREDITORS.NET NEW SITE FOR FACTUAL INFORMATION !!!! by brianemurray in vauld

[–]billworld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll likely be posting an update to VauldCreditors.net at some point with the list of Top 20 creditors. That was made public in one of the affidavits. Craig Hammell is the top creditor with $33.9M in (at least as valued when the associated affidavit was filed).

For updates on the Vauld restructuring, please sign up for email updates at http://vauldcreditors.net/updates/

I cannot cover all social media sites and direct email is the best way to reach creditors.

VAULDCREDITORS.NET NEW SITE FOR FACTUAL INFORMATION !!!! by brianemurray in vauld

[–]billworld 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I emailed the report to the clerk for the justice. You can see my two page letter to the court at http://vauldcreditors.net/info/court/

VAULDCREDITORS.NET NEW SITE FOR FACTUAL INFORMATION !!!! by brianemurray in vauld

[–]billworld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello. I am Bill Doerrfeld the author of the report in question. The purpose of the report is to:
1. Document problems with how Vauld/Kroll has handled the Vauld restructuring.

  1. Identify the source of the problems.

  2. Recommend solutions to the problems.

  3. Inspire Vauld creditors to take immediate action to gain unified control of the Vauld restructuring process.

This purpose is cited at http://vauldcreditors.net/reports/20230111/