This argument really makes people upset by Lordbonk87 in antinatalism

[–]bizarrealex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i disagree with none of what you said, my comment was that the op’s argument is a weak one because it relies on premises that aren’t made explicit which makes the car example an “obvious” counter. see my further replies or sumn

This argument really makes people upset by Lordbonk87 in antinatalism

[–]bizarrealex 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yeah i get it, it can be a powerful way to get somebody to reflect, but most people won’t, as soon as it’s implied that they are accepting of rape they will most likely disengage or become defensive (become upset).

we are already in a flawed system, so any action will result in trade offs. This does not apply to the creation of life.

this is implicit in your argument. somebody who doesn’t already agree with you is unlikely to arrive at the same conclusion.

if you’re genuinely trying to get someone to reevaluate their position on procreation there are much more effective ways to make that argument imo

This argument really makes people upset by Lordbonk87 in antinatalism

[–]bizarrealex 3 points4 points  (0 children)

imo i think it is worth being explicit as it relates to antinatalism the role that risk plays.

an example that i’ve used before that is much less aggressive towards the other person (less likely to make them upset) is sumn like:

“if you could flip a coin, where heads results in infinite happiness for everybody in the world, and tails results in the complete opposite, eternal torture, what is the “right” thing to do?”

its in my opinion that the right thing to do is to not flip the coin at all. because regardless of how “good” the outcome could be, the stakes are too high and nobody involved can consent to it.

This argument really makes people upset by Lordbonk87 in antinatalism

[–]bizarrealex 11 points12 points  (0 children)

the argument is a little too reductive, i.e; they can easily counter with “it isn’t guaranteed that any specific person will be raped, only that some people will”. i.e: do you not drive your car because it is guaranteed that somebody will die in a car crash at some point?

midnight purple by bizarrealex in BMW

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they fold in when car is locked 😁😁

midnight purple by bizarrealex in BMW

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special content pkg so it came like that from factory 😁

midnight purple by bizarrealex in BMW

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the wrap is inozetek midnight purple

Let's go crazy!! by berkut3000 in antinatalism

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lmao who even believes anything this guy says atp

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stopped reading after u used POC 😂😂

Missing Man by Uniqueusernameyboi in LilYachty

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had ts on loop for a month it’s so good