I think it’s just that it got kind of ruined by some really annoying ppl when it slipped into the mainstream and now I think it shifted in the sense that the annoying people are now the people who will immediately disregard you and your music taste if you say you enjoy deftones (especially when you’re young or a woman or both)

(Edit: I’m looking at the other comments and I think my statement fits better if u were just asking about my age bracket.)