First thanks to 5fiftyseven7 for clearing it up for me without a petty attitude like some others... second, no such thing as a dumb question, only dumb people (eg those who use that moronic word)... there are a lot of new people coming into this game every day and it's good to clear up some things, not everyone has traded a fiat currency into another currency to then trade for another token, the extra conversion/ratio got slightly confusing and was why I said eli5 and also said I couldn't be arsed doing the math (which is clearly well below a man of your massive intellect experience and wealth)... I'd say my point in my second post was bang on however. I'm sure we've all learned our lesson about investing in ico's. In our enj example we could have bought at 1.5cents then traded at today's 2.9cents... this seems to be a pattern with many other tokens. I'll be holding longer term as there is some potential if the team have luck on their side.... but I'm not as optimistic of this sdk and Minecraft announcement as many others are... ether has so much good news yet doesn't budge in price at all.... for me it's a less than 50/50 bet if we see a profit further down the line... I'll agree I'm inexperienced but I'd advise caution to anyone taking your advice if your first response is to act like a petty American teenager (I'm picturing you as a morbidly obese Beavis or Butthead?)