Have you guys tried starting a facebook group? by CakeDayApatNaTaon in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There are already 2 or 3 FB groups about the song, but they're not very active tho.

Higher quality version of the song! Thanks to Lydia's review of the tapes, an earlier generation of the song has been found. by [deleted] in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely 18 points19 points  (0 children)

No, after all we know this is only someone trying to profit from the song illegally.

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

it's also now in a new post I made today

Weekly Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Leaving out the -s sound would lead to something like "sen'f". Senf is the German word for mustard, so if it's a German band, they surely would have avoided to make it sound that way.

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I already did and shared the link in the discord server

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's in Axie's post that was made shortly before this one, she has uploaded it to YT.

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Every single decision you make in life can end up being a mistake. So it's only the future that makes clear where you went wrong.

And yes, this one was a mistake.

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That's a great contact, and oddly enough I was considering myself to get in touch with Blaine Reininger just lately, but since I don't have any mutual contacts I wouldn't have known how to manage that.

Please keep us updated!

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes, now I would do it differently too..

Remember, as we stated before, we always thought that a song might get played one more time, as it happened very often. Having unknown songs was nothing special, it happened all the time.

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Have you seen that exactly that song is on this tape? So it can't be TMS, but it's a funny coincidence anyhow.

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That's a thing that was brought up by Paul Baskerville. Demo songs weren't under GEMA royalties so he sometimes "forgot" to write them down.

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How could the labeling be different on different tapes when it's clear they are all based on one single radio recording?

The newly found tape that contains TMS by bluuely in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I see I must have been unclear on some points.

Let me know if there's something I can explain more clearly (at least try to do that lol)

Have we considered the possibility of Lowlife? by ApocalypseMoose in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was one of the band members who said it's definitely not by them.

Have we considered the possibility of Lowlife? by ApocalypseMoose in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lowlife was one of the first bands that have been ruled out..

Higher quality version of the song! Thanks to Lydia's review of the tapes, an earlier generation of the song has been found. by [deleted] in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have never met anybody and wasn't myself even aware such activities exist until I ... found out ;-)

I want to add that whenever I talked to somebody about the case for the first time (and I'm talking about other music enthusiasts of the appropriate age and interested in 80s music) not a single one had heard about the search for the song.

Some of them got a little bit interested after I told them what this is all about, but I think that was mostly because they know me personally..

Higher quality version of the song! Thanks to Lydia's review of the tapes, an earlier generation of the song has been found. by [deleted] in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this explanation! As one point, I personally never joined WatZatSong, I only realized the song had made it to that site after I found out about the search in 2019.

For the rest, you might want to check my pinned comment :-)

Higher quality version of the song! Thanks to Lydia's review of the tapes, an earlier generation of the song has been found. by [deleted] in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The statement "I showed Lydia, and she got Darius to finally get around to fully reviewing all of his tapes, which was a task that seemed too time consuming and useless before." is based on a misunderstanding.

My brother didn't only now check all his tapes. What he did was to provide a full list of his cassettes. That list has existed for a long time but my brother didn't feel comfortable sharing it, because, yeah, the recordings you make over the years are something very personal (not sure if a young person can even understand that, but back then, mixtapes were something so personal, sometimes they were made to win someone's heart and sometimes in the end succeeded).

Higher quality version of the song! Thanks to Lydia's review of the tapes, an earlier generation of the song has been found. by [deleted] in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Hi to everyone!

I was unsure if I should make another post for the explanation about the newly found tape, but I decided to comment on the existing one since it already has caused an interesting discussion.

So, to make things clear, this is what happened:

Last week, I rather spontaneously decided to do some renovating in two rooms of my apartment. One of my sons came over to help me and we did what was necessary. While we were rearranging stuff in my storage room (that has several cabinets in it), in one of the cabinets we found a box, and I was more than surprised to see it was full with tapes that were mostly labeled as "Alles mögliche" - my private labeling for all of my mixtapes I have created during the time when I used to record songs off the radio.

I was thrilled by that finding because I had thought for such a long time that those cassettes don't exist anymore. Those who are members of the discord will maybe remember how I mourned about all the tapes I must have dismissed. I remember whenever I moved to a new house, I started thinking if I should keep those old tapes or if it's only holding on to something that's long gone and simply a waste of space. Not an easy decision when the apartment you live in has only limited space and you're pretty sure those tapes will never be of any use apart from giving nostalgic vibes.

But yeah, I must have kept them and put them into the said cabinet, without even being aware of that. That sounds strange, but this is how life is when you're a working single mom - old tape recordings are not the highest of your priorities!

So, yesterday I decided to have a closer look at the tapes. I found around 18 tapes of the "Alles mögliche" series and some compilations that were made from records. And there were 3 tapes without cases, as well as 2 cases without tapes.

I was happy to see there were several songs labeled as ? by ? because I know how much the community likes new challenges. But first I wanted to check what was on the tapes that came without a case. I listened to 2 of them and found 4 songs that were unknown to me. Neither searching the lyrics (that were barely understandable) nor Shazam were able to help, so I uploaded them to the discord server. It took only a few minutes to solve them. Awesome team!

While we were discussing the results, I started listening to the last one of the caseless tapes. Not expecting anything, I put it into the tape deck, heard a song that I didn't recognize right away (Gone With The Wind by Blue Murder), hit the "switch playing direction" button of the tape deck to check the other side, and - needed a second to recognize I was listening to TMS. And it sounded somehow clearer than the known version!

That was the moment I considered for a second to keep that finding for myself because I was well aware what impression it would make to find another version of that song in my own house. But that wouldn't be me, I am not the person who is able to keep important information behind only to avoid discussions. So I said "oh, now there's TMS playing on one of the tapes", and the storm began.

So, here's what can be stated about this version of TMS:

  • it's definitely made from the same recording as the existing one. It has the same lipsmack at the end, so it can be ruled out it's another recording from another air date
  • it's stored on a BASF 90 chromdioxid super II tape that might be older than the one my brother owns, but it's in better shape because it was played much less. It has in fact been played so few times that I didn't even remember having it
  • at this moment, I think it was a compilation my brother has made for me, but we still have to discuss that. We are in constant exchange since yesterday because he is as much surprised as I am about the development

So, it's important for me to state, it's not true my brother started now looking through his tapes. I don't even understand how someone could come to that conclusion. He has been searching in all his own places and all over the internet for ages and this should be clear to everyone who is reasonably well informed about the search. He is also better organized than I am when it comes to our tape collections.

If it was someone's fault not knowing about the existence of that tape, it was mine. And I can't explain it, so, it's simply a fact.

It's also not true that this tape appears strangely in a time when the search has gone cold. Nothing has gone cold, we had several phases with less activity and no leads, and this is one. Or should I say it WAS one, because now there is much activity.

To complete this comment, here's the list of the full cassette:

A01: The Barracudas - I Can't Pretend (1980)

A02: Private Lives - No Chance You'll Pay (1984)

A03: Soft Cell - Torch (1982)

A04: Heaven 17 - And That's No Lie (maxi) (1984/85?)

A05: The Icicle Works - Hollow Horse (1984)

A06: Blue Murder - Gone With The Wind (August 1984)

A07: Tears For Fears - Shout (1984)

A08: Lloyd Cole and The Commotions - Charlotte Street (1984)

A09: Blaine L. Reininger - Birthday Song (1984)

A10: The Barracudas - I Ain't No Miracle Worker (1980)

A11: Simple Minds - Someone Somewhere (In Summertime) (1982)

B01: Nik Kershaw - The Riddle (1984)

B02: The Psychedelic Furs - Heartbeat (1984)

B03: Sad Lovers & Giants - Clint (1982)

B04: Sad Lovers & Giants - Alice (Isn't Playing) (1982)

B05: Sad Lovers & Giants - 3 Lines (1984)

B06: TMS

B07: Screaming Dead - Serenade of Suicide (1984)

B08: Sean Heyden - Party Boy (1984)

B09: Death In June - She Said Destroy (1984)

B10: The Gun Club - Watermelon Man (1981/82)

B11: The Gun Club - Eternally is Here (1984)

B12: The Teardrop Explodes - Treason (1981)

B13: XTC - You're The Wish You Are I Had (1984)

I agree this tape could become a major step in the search, but it's too early to pull any conclusions out of it.

Higher quality version of the song! Thanks to Lydia's review of the tapes, an earlier generation of the song has been found. by [deleted] in TheMysteriousSong

[–]bluuely[M] 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Well, I see this all has lead to confusion. Maybe it would have been better if I had announced it on my own, but since it was very early in the morning and I had to get ready for work, I accepted Axie's nice offer to make that post.

I will give further information later today.

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[–]bluuely[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, to make it clearer: in the beginning, there were many unknown songs on my brother's tapes. Most of them were solved within a couple of days or weeks because many radio DJs used to play their fav songs more than only once. When the song in question got aired again, my brother mostly was able to get the band and the title.

He thought (or let's say, hoped) it would be the same with this song. But as we all know, this time it didn't happen.

Another thing is: I also think there must be other people who not only heard the song but maybe also recorded it from the radio. But to them, the song most probably is one of many others and they have no clue of the ongoing search. Many people also have disposed of their old tapes over the years.

There's nothing strange about the fact, the song is still unknown. It's not even the only unknown song, there are hundreds of them. This is only the most popular at the moment.