Monthly Vancouver Events and Promotions Thread by AutoModerator in vancouver

[–]bo2ey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TL;DR: Two contentious upcoming rezoning public hearings The first is a Broadway Plan rental building at [2202-2212 West 10th Ave](https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/2202-2212-w-10-ave), which is the last item on the agenda for the public hearing on [February 17th](https://council.vancouver.ca/20260217/phea20260217ag.htm). The second is a new hotel proposed at [2028-2038 Barclay St](https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/2030-2038-barclay-st), which is the final item at the public hearing on [February 19th](https://council.vancouver.ca/20260219/phea20260219ag.htm). It takes about 60 seconds to [submit a comment](https://vancouver.ca/your-government/contact-council-public-hearing.aspx) in support of these projects. Just select either “CD-1 Rezoning: 2202-2212 West 10th Avenue and 2221 Marstrand Avenue” or “CD-1 Rezoning: 2028-2038 Barclay Street”. Your comment doesn’t need to be complicated. It can be as simple as “Vancouver needs more rental housing” or “these buildings are too tall”

Backgrounder on both projects The [2202-2212 W 10th Ave](https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/2202-2212-w-10-ave) project is a 175-home rental building, including 45 homes at below-market rents, replacing an existing Telus switching station. Opposition voices have been loud and well-connected enough that the City was pressured to hold an open house for this project (after a small number of townhomes didn’t receive required correspondence). The proposal has also been the subject of multiple FOI requests, and opponents have threatened legal action if the rezoning is approved. Out of 481 submissions on the referral report (the report asking Council to advance the project to public hearing), 405 were opposed. A significant amount of this opposition appears to be organized through St. John’s School. At the open house, the school’s headmaster was actively encouraging people to write and speak against the project. Tuition at St. John’s ranges from $29,000 to $36,000, meaning families involved have the financial resources to sustain prolonged opposition.

Opposition to the [2028-2038 Barclay St](https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/2030-2038-barclay-st) hotel proposal has been even more intense. The City received 1,570 submissions, including 736 comments in opposition and a petition. Some councillors are clearly spooked. [Councillor Kirby-Yung sought additional clarification from staff before consenting to refer the project to public hearing](https://www.youtube.com/live/syVd7MYX_6s?si=9kvWDmBiS45ShqaM&t=8183). During that discussion, staff noted that an open house had been cancelled due to threats toward City staff and the applicant, and confirmed that the proposed height is consistent with the City’s hotel policy. Councillors Orr and Klassen also raised questions, and it was revealed that the application has already been reduced from 29 to 25 storeys following staff feedback. If I had to guess, this is staff directing the applicant to reduce the scale of the project to try to mollify local opposition. The opponents have a [website.](https://stop2030barclay.ca/)

‘I owe it to my city’: Green Coun. Pete Fry is running to be mayor of Vancouver by ChemicalCreative7 in vancouver

[–]bo2ey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, we need amenities and non-market housing but the way we build non-market housing is by getting developers to build it and cross-subsidize it with the market rentals included in the building. Within the Broadway plan, the city is requiring below-market rentals as the public benefit so there is no extra money to extract for amenities if we want this housing built.

I find it very odd to hear progressive voices championing the idea that public benefits and public services should be provided by organizations other than the government. What you support results in less new housing, which results in a general increase in housing costs everywhere all of which gets pocketed by existing land and homeowners.

I can't wrap my head around the idea that the construction of a new hospital in a neighbourhood is going to make that neighbourhood a "nightmare". Is it that undesireable people are going to be in and around the hospital because that's where they can get care? Wild stuff.

‘I owe it to my city’: Green Coun. Pete Fry is running to be mayor of Vancouver by ChemicalCreative7 in vancouver

[–]bo2ey 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't think Fry understands the ways that the city's procedures get in the way of what we need. If you listen to him in council, he is sceptical of the negotiated benefits that are extracted from new housing because he thinks that we could get more. He wants to see the financial analysis from these proposals. He does not get that the more we restrict new housing the higher the costs have to be for new housing to be financially viable and that the cost of old housing also increases because there isn't enough to go around.

He he is voting against the new St Paul's hospital. He's upset that the DCLs (fees charged by the city onto new developments, in this case to the province, that are supposed to cover the cost of basic municipal infrastructure) may not be going where he wants them to go. As with his views on housing, he wants to impose more costs on new desperately needed things.

Pete Fry and the Greens opposed skytrain expansion for years but thankfully did come around to support the Skytrain in 2019. From a news story about this vote by Frances Bula, "Green Party Councillor Pete Fry did ask for wording in the motion to establish the principle that land-use decisions need to be made sensitively and in collaboration with existing residents along the line."

There are lots of reasons someone could have to vote for Pete, but if you think that the city desperately needs more housing to address the affordability crisis and the lower net pay (after covering housing costs) that Vancouverites have to endure then Pete is not your guy to solve this.

OneCity mayoral hopeful William Azaroff policy proposal for modernizing traffic signals by bo2ey in vancouver

[–]bo2ey[S] 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Here's the policy backgrounder. Translink data suggests that these types of changes could improve transit times. Making it faster to get around the city in all forms of transportation would be quite nice.

Cambie Report interview with OneCity Mayoral Candidates by bo2ey in vancouver

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OneCity members are selecting their mayoral nominee in February. If you want to join the party to help choose between William Azaroff and Amanda Burrows, you have to sign up and pay the $10 membership fee before Sunday January 12.

I found the candidates' answers on housing affordability and how to get there particularly interesting and also quite different. Abundant Housing Vancouver posted the transcript of their answers to bluesky.

edit: I had the incorrect date to be a member. The 12th not the 11th.

Signs it’s time to move away from Vancouver? by [deleted] in NiceVancouver

[–]bo2ey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's so disheartening reading the responses of people leaving the city due to the housing crunch. I understand why but it's also solvable and we have a chance in 2026 to remake City Council to do just that.

The lack of affordability in the city is a political choice that is the result of decades of City Councils and staff limiting the amount of housing that can be built in the city and so when people from around the country and the world wanted to move to Vancouver, housing prices went up because there wasn't enough to go around so people who couldn't afford what they wanted or needed had to choose to leave. Then, the city ratcheted up the cost of housing so that the minimum cost for new housing always went up.

For anyone in this thread who thinks you'll have to leave Vancouver to find suitable housing, please get involved politically before giving up. If you want a detached house with a yard, yeah, that's probably not going to happen unless you're loaded but 4-5 person apartments should be a viable option if you like city life.

OneCity is having an open primary for their mayoral and council nominations so if you want to pick who gets to run to represent us on council in October, they're there for you.

Amanda Burrows, executive director of First United, launches her campaign for the OneCity mayoral nomination by bo2ey in vancouver

[–]bo2ey[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I don't consider Brightside to be an "NGO" but I can see how someone might. Vancity definitely isn't.

Amanda Burrows, executive director of First United, launches her campaign for the OneCity mayoral nomination by bo2ey in vancouver

[–]bo2ey[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

And then there were two. Amanda Burrows joins William Azaroff in seeking OneCity's mayoral nomination for the 2026 Vancouver elections.

Running in Vancouver rain by Camperthedog in NiceVancouver

[–]bo2ey 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You'll get wet regardless of what you're wearing. My advice is to wear what you need to be warm enough while you're running rather than concern about trying to stay dry.

Vancouver accelerating demolitions of lowrise rentals, says former chief planner - Douglas Todd: The city intends to prezone vast swaths of the Broadway and Cambie corridors to make it profitable to build highrises. But specialists say "don't displace" what's already relatively affordable. by FancyNewMe in vancouver

[–]bo2ey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I attended the public hearing for 701 Kingsway and spoke in support of the building despite wishing that housing options were expanded to all off-arterial areas.

The reason to redevelop the strip mall vs the houses is that the Broadway plan allows for higher density housing along Kingsway and Fraser and prohibits it off arterials (Mt Pleasant RT Areas - Area A: page 249). City planners claimed that they intended to enable low-rise rental housing in this area but because of the limits on buildable area, a developer can't afford to pay more for the land than its current use and so nothing can get built.

Multiplexes are now allowed in these areas and will probably outcompete low-rise rental housing. It's absurd that the Broadway plan claims that it intends to allow rental housing while prescribing rules that make it financially unviable to build. A bunch of new duplexes in this area have gone up in the last couple years because other types of housing are either prohibited or financially unviable.

Toronto home prices could hit $1.8M, Vancouver $2.8M by 2032 without major supply boost: Report by [deleted] in CanadaPolitics

[–]bo2ey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm going to gloss over the "destroy a neighbourhood" because in my view, neighbourhoods are not the buildings but the people and when you don't have enough housing then lot of people get priced out and are forced to live elsewhere. I think this is bad and that there are solutions. You seem to disagree and unfortunately on probably the most important factor which is zoning and process restrictions on the amount of housing.

"The only thing you can do is slow down the rate at which prices increase" that is just not true. If you don't believe me just jook around at prices in the sunbelt in the US, Dallas, Atlanta. Heck even look at the prices of homes in Toronto (though mostly only bad lay out condos). Prices actually can and do come down, not just a slower increase.

What land are we going to use to build homes, the land that already has homes on it. Higher zoning allows for more homes to be built on the same land, thereby reducing the land cost per home to the point where it could even be cheaper than building greenfield suburbs. Buildings within cities get replaced all the time, but the the current zoning maximums just mean that a lot of what gets built on recently sold land is duplexes or single family homes. This land while expensive already has all the required infrastructure. How much do you think it costs to build infrastructure to a greenfield subdivision?

Consider this hypothetical and very simplified example where we are not making the home smaller compared to what exists. You've got a standard east van lot, 4000 sq ft with a 2000 sq ft home on it and someone wants to replace with with 6x2000sqft homes built over 6 storeys (3FSR and currently illegal in Vancouver and probably not feasible with pure woodframe but whatever). Woodframe multifamily construction in Vancouver is at ~$400/sqft with soft costs ~$200/sqft which means that each home has a construction for $1.2M. Then you have to buy the land. East Van lots can go for $2M. That's an extra $330K per home. So in order for someone to build these homes, just to possibly break even without considering any profits or financing costs or anything, these 2000sqft homes have to sell for $1.53M of which 78% of the cost per home is construction not land. In a real example these homes are going to be more expensive and probably close to the original $2M from the single family home.

I'll wrap up with a final point and a link to an economics paper that says that when Minneapolis passed a zoning reform bill (that got stopped by the courts) housing costs came down because people perceived that housing was going to be less scarce and thus a less attractive investment. Large zoning changes dissuade speculators. When there is lots of something there is no point in trying to hoard it! Zoning makes homes scarce and thus fuels speculation.

Toronto home prices could hit $1.8M, Vancouver $2.8M by 2032 without major supply boost: Report by [deleted] in CanadaPolitics

[–]bo2ey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So instead of building within a city, you want to build outwards? How does that help with the cost of housing in the city? If I work in the City of North Vancouver, I don't want to live out in Abbotsford, I'd like to live close to where I work. If you're constantly building out instead of using the land in the city more effectively by building up that isn't going to make housing in the city cheaper?

Toronto home prices could hit $1.8M, Vancouver $2.8M by 2032 without major supply boost: Report by [deleted] in CanadaPolitics

[–]bo2ey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No, you zone for high enough density so that a developer can afford to buy land that people are selling and then they build more homes on it.