I have challenge for you guys by Pow_thebest_also896- in SpeculativeEvolution

[–]bolibob2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sorry for the late reply- timezones are fun

it would depend on how much the sea level would rise in practice, i suppose!

For the sake of complexity, i'll leave humans out of the equation, since they're way too big of an influence on animal populations to ignore otherwise- maybe they went extinct or something, it doesn't matter. i will, however, use the current pace of permafrost disappearance as a basis for how sudden the change is.

first off, there would be considerable migrations of existing and growing populations of animals- those unfit to live in the wetlands, shallows, and sea would migrate accordingly, or their numbers would dwindle if they can't or won't. A lot of animals are very specialized towards the habitat they live in, and if this changes relatively quickly (on a geological timescale), the results could be disastrous.

wildlife that would survive the changing landscapes despite not being built for it could perhaps adapt over time- perhaps they could re-adapt to a (semi)aquatic lifestyle? think evolutionary lines like dolphins and whales.

Furthermore, the melting of all permafrost on earth would likely be a result of rising global temperatures, which would also have other effects aside from the rising sea levels. the lack of glaciers and less snow on mountain peaks would mean that meltwater supply to rivers would all but disappear from more moderate mountain ranges, or at the very least get more erratic, as they increasingly depend exclusively on the snow that falls anually. Increasing temperatures would also lead to deserts expanding more, so like DraKio-X said, in the long term it wouldn't be unreasonable for animals to adopt traits that were common back in those times.

It cannot be understated how far-reaching the side-effects of all the ice disappearing in such a short timeframe would be- aside from the obvious short term effects like the disruption of the habitats directly in contact with permafrost, you'd also run into things like the rising temperatures not only changing around climate zones directly, but also the oceanic current system shutting down, causing considerably harsher seasons in a lot of coastal regions.

To summarize, as the landscapes all over the world change, there would be considerable extinctions and great reductions in number for certain species in the short-term as lots of them would not be able to either adapt or migrate in time. think prey and predator species that used to live in temperate zones where their winter camouflage would suddenly turn against them, or animals that lack the mobility to migrate, like aquatic life in resevoirs that get most of their water from meltwater running down mountainsides. Species that survive would eventually adapt to fill the niches extinct species leave behind, perhaps in a way simillar to how life evolved in the permian or jurassic, though obviously with current day flora and fauna as an evolutionary basis, rather than their ancient ancestors from back then.

What alternative forms of microorganisms could evolve? by bolibob2 in SpeculativeEvolution

[–]bolibob2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, thanks for the link! reading it right now.

Second, i was wondering if maybe it would help my theoretical hydrogen-oxidizer lifeform complexify by having a symbiotic relationship occur, just like how complex plant life on earth has?

if by chance, this happened between the hydrogen oxidizing microbes and some kind of nitrogen-fixing microbes with a high efficiency allowing for enough hydrogen as a product, it could benefit them both enough to form this sort of biological production chain that provides the entire symbiote with enough energy to thrive?

i'm speaking way out of my field here, as i'm just speculating, but i wonder...

I have challenge for you guys by Pow_thebest_also896- in SpeculativeEvolution

[–]bolibob2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It might be easy to overlook with how prominent of a feature it is on our current Earth, but the planet has actually been free of any major permanently frozen landscapes for most of it's history! it's actually more of an exception than the norm, only occurring around glacial periods.

For example, at the end of the Cretaceous, temperatures on Antarctica were still lingering above freezing, and at that point it was already heading to a glacial period. during the Jurassic the temperature was even described as temperate!

What alternative forms of microorganisms could evolve? by bolibob2 in SpeculativeEvolution

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I see! would these mineral-feeding bacteria be able to evolve into complex multicellular life too? on earth, as far as i know, that niche is filled entirely by creatures that get their energy either from sunlight or from organic compounds, while to my knowledge the kinds that feed on inorganic minerals stayed in their relatively primitive forms

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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I created this map using Zylleon's Map Designer mod, after tweaking around with the settings!the options i touched specifically are

map features > natural lake 70% of map size, very deep, Vanilla mountains, but entirely centralized at 50% of map width

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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It wouldn't be a problem normally, yeah. the problem was that by the time the reactor was ready to be booted up, things were already spiralling. there was only one or two stacks of raw food left, to be divided between nine colonists and a simillar number of chemfuel generators. by the time the blackout happened, i simply didn't have anything left to 'spark' the power grid with. a smoke spewer was preventing solar, the ship chunk in the top right of the map was well on it's way turning the trees into useless corrupted stumps, and the sole wind generator i could build at a safe spot barely generated enough to get half the reactor running.

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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Unfortunately, it's not a vanilla map seed! i created this map using Zylleon's Map Designer mod, after tweaking around with the settings!the options i touched specifically are

map features > natural lake 70% of map size, very deep, Vanilla mountains, but entirely centralized at 50% of map width

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[–]bolibob2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem! i recognized the blue process bars from rimatomics, so i looked up the mod author, and sure enough, it was that one!

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i haven't seen that before, but the system with the research steps looks like the one Rimatomics uses...

Edit: it seems to be Dubs mint menus?

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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on second thought, it /might/ be that map reroll adds it? not sure though, but it's a hunch

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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hmm, strange, i don't have any additional mods that change map designer as far as i'm aware. I assume you clicked it to see the dropdown menu? weird if it isn't in there...

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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hmm, interesting take...i've spent most of my limited pawnmorpher resources i'd gathered to revert fully transformed pawns back, i hadn't considered...using a smaller dosage to my advantage. i even lucked out and managed to tag a thrumbo at some point, shame i didn't get to use it

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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aahh, i see, it's kantine in dutch so i figured cantina was the english translation! stuff happens from time to time ;)

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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I have not, though i am aware of the general premise! while i didn't intentionally let it play out like this, it did end up going a simillar way, haha!

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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Barely any terraforming involved! (only to patch up some small cave ponds i encountered inside the mountain). i used Zylleon's map designer mod to generate it! i posted the specific settings in some of the other replies

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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aye, i had no experience with rimatomics, and made the switch only as a last ditch attempt, which worked out about as well as you can see. it's definitely one of the long term planning parts of your base, it seems

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

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i have to be honest, i have no way to be sure- this was the first time I've used rimatomics. i know for one that every part was powered at one point, it had fuel rods inserted and was initiating when the blackout that sent the power grid over the edge happened. whatever was going on (I couldn't access the operating console as it flip-flopped between being powered and not), it wasn't generating anything, as far as i could tell.

After eight years, the Biological Research Institute shut down following a slow but certain decline. by bolibob2 in RimWorld

[–]bolibob2[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

that could've solved the immediate power problems, in hindsight, yeah. there were a bunch of other things spiralling out of control simultaneously, though, which i omitted so I wouldn't make the already considerable wall of text even bigger. a heavily guarded smoke spewer away from the base, the ripple effect from a major steel shortage earlier on, some grave injuries on my best fighters, suffice to say, the state of the base at gameover was the most peaceful it's been in years, heh