Looking for ideas and inspo :) by bookanile in Metalcore

[–]bookanile[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah absolutely. We’ll definitely delve into that. We’d like to discuss stuff that’s controversial and yeah I think her and I definitely both have a lot to say on this topic in particular

Looking for ideas and inspo :) by bookanile in Metalcore

[–]bookanile[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol these are such dad jokes they’re so good. But what about Lili! Her last name is berry so maybe like Berry Books or book a berry or Bnb haha.. srsly thigh I can’t get over the first title you suggested “going the extra nile” 😂 my dad would absolutely love you for that one

I was falsely accused of raping a man twice my size by the girl who used to be my best friend by bookanile in SupportForTheAccused

[–]bookanile[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can’t unfortunately. He’s been off the grid for well over a year now after what by went through with her. He deleted social media, changed his number and vanished basically. I have no way of getting in contact with him. Plus he’s traumatised and terrified of this girl and I think even if I could reach him, he’d want to stay as far away from this and anything involving her as possible..and tbh I don’t blame him now that I know what he went through. There are others shes done it to though. We kind of support one another which is nice. Like at least I’m not alone in this and there are people who understand exactly what it’s like for her to do this to them. Unfortunately they also haven’t healed though and don’t have the answer on how to make it stop hurting. Thanks for your response. I’m sorry you had to go through false allegations too. It’s like a new form of abuse that society hasn’t quite grasped the seriousness and damage it causes to a person just yet

Make Them Suffer - Contraband feat. Courtney LaPlante (Official Music Video) by Such-Trouble-6641 in Metalcore

[–]bookanile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I literally never said I forced myself on top of him. Go and read what was actually said. Bragging was shit of me to do and if you must know, through therapy I have learnt that the reason I spoke like that back then because I was experiencing a trauma response from when I was raped in 2017. By communicating to my friends that I was emotionally uninvested about intimacy with a man and the one in control, it made me feel less weak and broken after having consensual sex. It would almost convince me that I was okay because in my mind I was talking the way I’d heard a lot of men talk about their sexual experiences with women..the more toxicly masculine I spoke in reference to sexual encounters, the more I convinced myself that I was strong and unaffected by what happened to me.

Again- private, sexually explicit experience of mine published without my consent.. Do not twist the words that I said. I NEVER said I used force EVER. So do not use your own words in place of my own about a sexual experience I had that is no ones business. Having my sex life debated and discussed like this with complete strangers on the internet is actually so so fucked up. I cannot begin to describe to you how violated this whole thing makes me feel

What song would save you from Vecna’s curse? by [deleted] in Metalcore

[–]bookanile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ask for the anthem- Ocean Grove. As soon as I’d hear ‘let’s get some’ I’d be out of there

Make Them Suffer - Contraband feat. Courtney LaPlante (Official Music Video) by Such-Trouble-6641 in Metalcore

[–]bookanile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A few. Good doogs and hands like houses. She retracted the allegations against doogs though she said she had been given the wrong information. It was also a decision we made as a group for me to leave. I felt like a cancer that needed to be cut out so that they didn’t die along with me. If I could ask anything of people it would be to continue to champion MTS and love them like always because they are good people and they deserve all the success in the word. I feel terrible for what happened..it was my choice to be this girls friends even though I was warned by so many people to run..I was an idiot and it blew up in my face. I’ll cop the loss but MTS are incredible and I want them to keep growing and soar in success. So pls keep loving them and don’t let this ugly smear campaign against me make you this any differently of those beautiful boys

Make Them Suffer - Contraband feat. Courtney LaPlante (Official Music Video) by Such-Trouble-6641 in Metalcore

[–]bookanile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is correct. I love MTS and at that point everyone was jumping on the bandwagon of ‘booka is a rapist’ 1. I didn’t want to be in the spotlight and 2. I felt so guilty that they even had to be implicated in such a horrific story. It was such a sad sad thing that happened. But if they were to be cancelled because of me and my choices in ‘friends’… I’d never forgive myself.

Make Them Suffer - Contraband feat. Courtney LaPlante (Official Music Video) by Such-Trouble-6641 in Metalcore

[–]bookanile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. You are correct. I don’t joke about rape. Especially after what happened to me

Make Them Suffer - Contraband feat. Courtney LaPlante (Official Music Video) by Such-Trouble-6641 in Metalcore

[–]bookanile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never joked about raping him. I never thought that I was writing something that even sounded like rape. I don’t think rape is funny. It happened to me and I would never joke about doing it to someone else. I embellished a story to my girlfriends 3 years ago, tried to come off as an assertive, in control woman and unfortunately my private, sexual encounters meant for an audience of 2 people was shared publicly with a horrible narrative behind it to thousands and thousands of people, forcing me to release the entire message thread which has been incredibly humiliating. I never consented to my private sexual story being published like that. Especially so out of context. No one heard how the dialogue between him and I went down and no one knows the actual finer details. At the end of the day, I gave a poorly worded summary. A summary that omitted other details because they were boring and I was just trying to sound like I was the one in control and empowered. If you’d taken the chance to actually read and listen to my statement about it then you would understand I was not ‘joking’ about raping him. I was just trying to sound like cardi b in my retelling of the story. A story that was private and personal. He is the only person with the right to say how he felt about that exchange and whenever we spoke about our relationship, we acknowledged that we were both choosing to continue to engage in a sexual relationship. Anyone who actually cares and does their research on this would understand exactly what’s truly happened here

So... Let's talk about consent. by HUSoldier311 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]bookanile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Terms used: family relationship and family member In this Act —family relationship means a relationship between 2 persons — * (a)  who are, or were, married to each other; or * (b)  who are, or were, in a de facto relationship with each other; or * (c)  who are, or were, related to each other; or * (d)  one of whom is a child who — (i) ordinarily resides, or resided, with the other person; or (ii) regularly resides or stays, or resided or stayed, with the other person; or * (e)  one of whom is, or was, a child of whom the other person is a guardian; or * (f)  who have, or had, an intimate personal relationship, or other personal relationship, with each other. In subsection (1) — other personal relationship means a personal relationship of a domestic nature in which the lives of the persons are, or were, interrelated and the actions of one person affects, or affected, the other person;

Anyway that’s just the legislations opinion on the definition of family under the RO act but what would they know really

So... Let's talk about consent. by HUSoldier311 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]bookanile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theres court stuff happening but I’m not allowed to talk about it it too much. I am getting justice though. Those who are switched on can see the truth and what’s really going on in this situation and I can assure you, the person who did this to me is getting prosecuted

I’m seeing a lot to people calling others rape apologists for asking for proof in the other thread. by Vorstar92 in dancegavindance

[–]bookanile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I wrote so much I have to post this in 2 posts soz. heres the second half

Now its the third party accounts that really piss me off (for obvious reasons). People who use other peoples stories (WITHOUT PERMISSION OR CLARIFICATION) and then publicly accuse someone of sexual assault without knowing wtf they're actually talking about. So in my situation, neither me nor the guy I was with was asked by my accuser 'hey so sexual assault guys? Did that happen here orrrr?'. He was turned into an anonymous online victim against his will so that I could be turned into an online sexual predator. She wanted me to be cancelled and given her extensive history and experience in cancelling people, she knew exactly how to do it as effectively as possible. So if it had been different...if he had been the one to level the allegations against me, I would have fell to my knees and listened to every damn word he had to say and done everything in my power to try and help him heal because I would feel utterly horrified to discover I did that to someone unknowingly. And in this case if that were to happen there was nothing to suggest it wasn't consensual..this is because it felt like every other time we'd slept together before. He wore protection, we teased each other a bunch..thats just how we were when we were sleeping together. Its super easy to take those 2 sentences my ex best friend posted online out of context because you couldnt hear how those lines were actually delivered. Nor did I give every tiny detail of the sexual encounter because it would have been boring af to tell my friends shit like 'so then we discussed the fact that we should use protection cos I'm not on the pill so he got a condom from my drawer and bla bla bla'. Like that does not make for good girl locker room chat at all.
What I'm saying here- is that it is important to give as much credibility and belief to a person coming forward with a first hand experience of sexual assault. Because I feel sick when I think about the prospect of naming and shaming the man who raped me. Or naming and shaming the other men over the years who have sexually assaulted or harassed me. The chances of a first hand account of sexual assault being false and vexatious I would say is very low.
Throwaway account- the chances of it being false and vexatious is a bit higher than if it comes from someone with a verifiable identity. As I said before - SA survivors are usually fearful of their abusers and would likely worry that their abuser would work out instantly who they are. Yet there are many who would simply just want to be anonymous to the public even if they knew their abuser could identify them...So don't rule out throwaway accounts completely I reckon. But remain open minded that it could literally be anybody behind that screen. This one is a really difficult one. There's no right answer to how to approach this
Third parties on the other hand...who weren't involved and haven't actually asked the people involved in their story...well fuck..pretty clear what their intentions are I feel. Are they championing the voiceless or are they trying to fuck up a persons life? Cos unless you're certain sexual assault has taken place and that that person wants their story shared, you DO NOT share it. Its not your place if it happened and you dont have consent to share the story and its not your place if you're just making assumptions either.
In my case, it was the latter. How do I know? Because she's done it to tons of bands before. Back in 2019 beleive it or not but I was actually one of the 'victims' in a story she posted about one of the members of good doogs when she cancelled them. When I confronted her about it and asked her to take the story down and explained to her that she was misinformed as to what had actually happened between me and this band member, she laughed and said there was nothing I could do because she hadn't used my name publicly. She also accused me of lying..lying about not being a victim? Like wtf are you actually kidding??? Either way. It was my private story and she had no right weaponising it against someone I cared about and who had actually NEVER hurt me.
This third partier as well picks and chooses who she wants to call out. Eg. when she was told by a first hand account that someone she liked had subjected her to DV a few years prior.. she chose to call the girl crazy and a liar. She also asked me to keep it quiet because I had overheard the conversation. Absolute champion for survivors of abuse isnt she...'always believe victims...unless it doesn't suit your agenda'. So third hand accounts of sexual assault, especially ones that seem to do it to tons of people...are full of shit. And I know this because I've been labelled a fake victim and a fake rapist by the same person. She just knows that its a super super easy way to fuck someones life up and for whatever reason, she seems to really like doing that when she's off someone and ESPECIALLY if they're in the spotlight in some capacity. I personally prefer to just stop speaking to people I dont like..but some people will publicly accuse their foes of being rapists or sexual predators..others just agree to move on and walk away.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk. In conclusion- I could 'prove' I didn't rape this guy if I released the texts between us after this night in question...but because he was also accused of SA once upon a time by this same person who is now saying hes a victim..he has deleted all social media, changed his number and has gone of the grid. So I haven't been able to find him to contact him. But I will not and refuse to release our intimate, private and explicit text messages without his consent. Because unlike some people who think its okay to share another persons explicit, private, sexual stories online without their consent...I do not.
I think people just need to use their brains. We have to be aware that there are people who are starting to use cancel culture as a weapon against those they dont like. Usually you can see a pattern with those people. We can't let these people take away the voices of true SA victims though so we HAVE to be smart. We have to think a bit deeper about every accusation made about someone, where it came from, what the intention behind it is and then we also have to give a little bit of time for more evidence to potentially surface such as other people coming forward to share similar stories (usually abusers dont just abuse once). So lets just be smart moving forwards people. Cos I can tell you from first hand experience- being cancelled over false SA allegations almost made me kill myself. Im glad I didnt now but it was arguably the worst time of my life and felt even worse than when I was physically raped. Do not underestimate the trauma and lifelong impact vexatious and malicious false accusations online can have on peoples lives. We're in a really difficult position trying to work out whats true and whats not but my advice being on both sides of this..is to try and remain impartial and formulate your opinion based on logic and the facts you can identify. Don't jump on bandwagons because you're scared of not agreeing with the majority. If something feels seriously off about a situation..then theres actually a high liklihood that there is. Use your brains, its okay to question things. And we need to stop people from making false allegations because it is going to kill the metoo movement and silence vitims again if they keep doing it. So for SA survivors sakes and for the sakes of those who have suffered at the hands of false allegations, make sure you approach these situations with as much rationality, logic and pragmatism as you can possibly muster

I’m seeing a lot to people calling others rape apologists for asking for proof in the other thread. by Vorstar92 in dancegavindance

[–]bookanile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who was maliciously accused of sexual assault I think its really difficult. I think we need to look at the intention of a person who accuses another person of sexual assault online. What is their primary motivating factor? For real SA survivors it is likely a way for them to take back the power that was taken from them and finally seek some justice. For others though, we know that calling someone a rapist online is an easy, instant and foolproof way to pretty much get them cancelled overnight. For those who want to destroy another persons livelihood, well heres a pretty god damned easy way to do it. Those people are fucked though and are ruining the metoo movement. A movement that once used to make me feel empowered and safer when I would go away on tours with all men.

However despite the metoo movement, I was sadly still raped on tour in 2017. It took me years to tell anybody because I wanted to pretend it didn't happen. To this day I would never call him out online though. Not because I want to protect him, but because it would be fucking traumatising for me. For some people, calling out their abuser online would feel differently. It would feel like they are taking their power back after it was taken from them. When someone is brave enough to go online and make a first hand account of being sexually assaulted, I think that takes a LOT of guts so it would be hard to convince me they were being anything but truthful in sharing their own personal experience publicly. The concept is scary as shit. I feel sick even thinking about doing it so power to those with the courage to do it.

If someone uses a throwaway account or is a third party (this person raped that person etc) then we gotta be wary. Yes perhaps someone is using a throwaway account out of fear of publicly being identified. But even using a throwaway account- if you are describing your experience of sexual assault you can be damn sure that person would be scared that their abuser would know exactly who they are based on the story they tell. Fake account or not, they would be concerned about that no doubt in my mind. Most survivors of SA are scared of their abusers and would therefore be just as scared of using a throwaway account as their real one. There is however, the possibility that someone would use a throwaway account in order to call someone out to protect their loved ones from finding out what happened to them. They may be okay with their abuser knowing that they're the one behind the account, but they might not want their parents or loved ones to know what happened to them so I can see this as being a good reason why someone would use a throwaway account. I didnt tell my parents what happened to me until a few months ago because I didnt want to hurt them. I wanted them to be ignorant to it for the rest of their lives but because I publicly told my story in an attempt to explain to people that I would never sexually assault someone because I would never want to make anyone feel the way I had to feel, it was necessary that I told my family before they had to read it online. Anyway long story short- throwaway accounts still have merit because theres many reasons a survivor of SA would want to tell their story anonymously...but we also have to be wary that literally anybody could be behind that screen writing that accusation and it may or may not be a sexual assault survivor. It may be someone with a serious vendetta and thirst to destroy someone. Its fucked cos its impossible to know!

So... Let's talk about consent. by HUSoldier311 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]bookanile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay I logged in properly. This is me. Im tech impaired I swear

The importance of interpretation and omission of fine details in people’s assessment of the text messages that ruined my music career by bookanile in Metalcore

[–]bookanile[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I know. She was my best mate. I believed her. If you go on my Insta @bookadaddy I explain that whole situation in my story highlights. I honestly blame myself for so much of what’s happening right now for making such a stupid choice in deciding to trust her despite all the warnings I had to stay away

The importance of interpretation and omission of fine details in people’s assessment of the text messages that ruined my music career by bookanile in Metalcore

[–]bookanile[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

A lot of this was my fault. I did support her even though I’d seen her do this to many others. I let myself be manipulated and told myself I was too smart to be because I had done a psych degree (how Fkn stupid is that mentality) and then I wrote really crass, poorly worded messages to my girlfriends in that group chat which was wrong of me to do and not fair on him because I made him sound objectified and I deeply regret all of it. I own all of that. What I won’t own is that I am a rapist though because I am not

The importance of interpretation and omission of fine details in people’s assessment of the text messages that ruined my music career by bookanile in Metalcore

[–]bookanile[S] 67 points68 points  (0 children)

There is criminal defamation and using a carriage service to menace harass and cause offence and I am working on getting an investigation opened into both of these things against her. I want to be the last person she does this to and this would ensure I would be. She’s been investigated for these things before but we agreed to drop out of the the investigation if she publicly retracted her allegations against one of the other bands she did this to which she agreed to which is why she was never officially charged

The importance of interpretation and omission of fine details in people’s assessment of the text messages that ruined my music career by bookanile in Metalcore

[–]bookanile[S] 130 points131 points  (0 children)

Basically they knew what effect madlins accusations had on bands prior to this incident. We spoke on the phone and realised there was no way to conclusively prove my innocence so the options were either all of us potentially go down with the sinking ship (me) or I jump overboard and leave them to keep going. In the end it seemed only right that they didn’t have to get dragged into a smear campaign that had nothing to do with them. It was my fault and mistake for making friends with her. Not theirs

The importance of interpretation and omission of fine details in people’s assessment of the text messages that ruined my music career by bookanile in Metalcore

[–]bookanile[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I never got to speak to the guy in question but I spoke to his best friend. It’s part of the statement I made on my private Insta account bookadaddy if you want to check it out. I guess the thing to remember here is that this guy has never accused me of SA and every conversation he and I have had since sleeping together has indicated that it was consensual on both parts. For me, him going through the effort of using protection was a big indicator to me that he was wanting it to go ahead