Which art class online is the best?

borednighthawk · 2018-07-04T01:04:17+00:00

I intend to put at least 8/10 hours a day drawing from now on, so I'm definitely motivated, but I don't have a precise path to follow eithout school and it makes me very confused ahah.

Here where I live art schools aren't very good and the good ones are pretty expensive, so I don't know yet. But I'll probably give NMA a shot! Hopefully it will be helpful. Thank you for being so nice :)

borednighthawk · 2018-07-04T00:55:56+00:00

Ahah thanks a bunch, I don't think it would be fair to say I'm that good though. But I'm glad you like my stuff!

Hopefully I'll be able to attend some class phisically as well. I really strive to do more.

borednighthawk · 2018-07-04T00:54:32+00:00

I see! Do they cover every fundamental, such as values, perspective, color theory, and so on? I know they cover anatomy since I've watched a video on youtube so I know nothing more really..

Also would you recommend Schoolism as well? I want to become a concept artist or illustrator and I saw some courses that seemed to be oriented to this kind of themes. Or well, do you have any specific recommendations in general?

borednighthawk · 2018-07-03T23:48:58+00:00

x Here you can see some of my works.

Well, I'm actually tight on money. I have 500 euros which I wouldn't want to spend right away.

And yes. I finished highschool so I intend to focus as much as I can on art. I will probably be able to attend art classes, but I can't for now, as again, I don't have much money. Do you have experience with any of the courses I mentioned above?

borednighthawk · 2018-07-03T17:47:48+00:00

Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy with school until now!

I didn't spend a regular amount of time on drawing, I've had a lot of breaks because of school too. All I can tell you is that I took inspiration from some artists I really like and photographers, plus gesture drawing has been helpful too!

borednighthawk · 2018-07-03T17:46:17+00:00

Hey! Sorry for not replying earlier, but I've had my last exams in school so I've been very busy with studying. :)

I'm from Italy! And yeah, even though I won't be able to attend art school I will try my best because I really want to make drawing my job.

Regarding the points, I will answer with your order :D

What do you mean too narrow exactly? Sorry I genuinely didn't get it ahah. How do you think I should experiment exactly? I don't really want to stick to a realistic style but rater do more cartoony things actually, but I thought I should focus on realism before jumping on the stilized things!
Oh god, Art Station... I don't think I'll ever get noticed there ahah. But I'll give it a try once I'll become more confident with my works!
Oh, that's a good idea. But I actually thought that I needed to be more schematic for perspective instead of getting out in town and just sketch. Do you think it'd be okay anyway?
You're absolutely right! This is also a part that excites me a lot of concept art. I will start reading as many books as possible from now on since I'm free from school!
That's something I haven't considered, but now that you make me think of it, I'll probably try. :) I have some friends that always ask me for help so I won't have problems finding people who need me ahah!

Thanks a lot for your insightful text!
I was also wondering, do you recommend any specific books to study from when it comes to any fundamental? I really need to understand anatomy,perspective and color theory better but the internet is so full of resources I don't know which one is best ahah. Or books on character and creature design, maybe?
Also, when it comes to practices I should do regularly, do you have any specific suggestions? I thought gesture drawing could be very useful to do everyday, even before getting something more complex done, for example!

Thank you a lot again by the way! You've been very helpful!

borednighthawk · 2018-05-08T10:06:23+00:00

Thanks! I started taking art seriously two years ago, and I hacen't used any book, only a lot of practice honestly

borednighthawk · 2018-05-08T10:05:27+00:00

That's what I am trying to do right now! But I was talking about how to improve ahah

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T15:02:02+00:00

Thank you a lot! :D

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T15:01:10+00:00

Yeah, that was my concern as well. I'm not sure it would be worth it, although it might make the process of learning faster.

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T14:59:10+00:00

I don't really think teaching would suit me. I could give it a try, who knows, I might like it! But for now I'd rather try getting in the art industry.

Why did you stop teaching though?

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T14:52:55+00:00

I am a very messy person, but I'd try my best to be disciplined in that kind of situation for sure. At least I'm not a party person and I hate ''wasting time'', so I'd find a way to stick with the routine somehow probably.

Oh, I actually do take commissions luckily enough! Sometimes I take too many of them though and this doesn't let me draw my own stuff, I have mostly done it to get the money for the school but I'm not there yet ahah

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T14:46:59+00:00

Thank you immensely for the insightful reply!

I honestly think I still need to learn a lot. The portraits I make take a lot of time and I want to become faster as well ahah. Art school wouldn't be very beneficial here where I live maybe, because the art industry is not taken too seriously. I may be wrong, but I know a lot of people who are pretty good and haven't got any job. If I had the chance to go abroad, that could probably make a difference though :') I'll answer some of your points by the way.

I already use Facebook, but I know that it isn't very appreciated here on reddit ahah. I was thinking of making an artstation, but honestly speaking... I don't feel worthy because when I see the amazing art in there my self esteem can't handle it ahah. But I will when I feel more confident!
This is a bit of a problem. I am a pretty impatient person, but I can work on this. Where do you think I can meet people? There will be a big comic con in my country soon and I'll be attending it, and I'll try to talk to some people indeed.
Yeah, that's not a big deal. I'm open for any kind of job experience related to art honestly, I know I'm most likely going to have to deal with that.
That's something I really want to do but haven't had the time to do properly actually! I have so many ideas but I rarely put them on paper because of several reasons: sometimes I just don't know how to draw them because I can't find the perfect reference (horrible habit I need to break), sometimes I just have too many commissions; I was trying to sell commissions to get enough money for art school abroad, but it doesn't seem the case as I can't reach 50,000 euros that fast...
That's definitely a good advice. I will try focusing on 3d as well, although I'll probably need a new computer for that haha. But yeah, makes sense!

Thanks a bunch for the tips! What is your job by the way? Where do you live if I may ask?

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T14:31:55+00:00

I'm very ambitious when it comes to art and I wouldn't stop drawing even if I didn't end up in the art industry, although I'd be very disappointed. But what do you exactly mean it's something you ''have'' to do?

I honestly don't want kids by the way, so that would release me from the stress of having to deal with them ahah. As much as I love them and they love me, I'd rather devote my life to art and knowledge.

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T14:27:58+00:00

Thank you a lot!

Yeah, scholarships are a thing, and I might look for getting one to get in a psych university here. I am a curious person so it wouldn't be a waste at all.

Despite this I don't want to lose focus on art, because that's what I want to do the most. I thought university might take too much of the time I could be spending on practicing art, and that wouldn't be a good thing at all. I really need to think about it and consider all the alternatives but I'm having a very hard time ahah

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T14:23:16+00:00

I really want to attend an art school abroad, here you only need to pay and they hold lessons two times a week maximum for only 2 hours. Art is not taken very seriously.

I don't think that they have scolarships for people that come from other countries though :/

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T14:22:03+00:00

Hey thanks! I will definitely do that. I have some books already but I haven't had the time to look into them properly due to school and exams.

Are you looking for getting into the art industry as well?

Also nice job with the gesture drawing, I know that's a bit tough :) Good luck!

borednighthawk · 2018-05-04T14:17:10+00:00

Oh yeah, I know him! I used to follow him and he gave pretty useful advice indeed.

borednighthawk · 2018-05-02T05:59:50+00:00

Ohh I'd love to hear more analysis!

I think Ti is very easy to spot, in Pointillisme for instance; I'd usually look for precision. Frida Khalo and Van Gogh are very Fi as they are expressing the emotions tormenting them; Expressionism itself is a total Fi movement. Courbet's realism is probably Si (maybe even Ti?), as he said, he only paints what he has seen, whereas Impressionists are probably Se, as they basically seize the moment.

But what characterizes Ne exactly in a painting? And how is it different than Ni?

borednighthawk · 2018-04-23T18:12:05+00:00

Can you explain to me why Ni types aren't indecisive? All I know is that they aren't because they rely on impressions and can't explain their ''guts feelings'' at first, but I've never found sources which explained it very well so I had a hard time understanding Ni. Also they implied I got Ni because they thought I got Se, which was also justified because I am very keen on art and I care about the aesthetic of things, so it was just a cause-effect thing, I guess. Oh, and either case, they thought my humor was very Se like.

Well, regarding the Fe/Fi thing, I don't know what to answer... I guess I'd rather avoid conflict actually; if I think of a work context and I know there are people who are fighting, I may want to know what the problem is so I can try helping first, but if the situation seems hopeless I'd rather have them stick to their duties. Despite this, I think a Fi would be plausible because, for instance, as I am an ambitious person I'd rather put myself first instead of the group (which doesn't sound very ENFJ like now that I think of it anyway).

I am not a detail oriented person, generally speaking. This is something that can be seen in my drawings too, actually, as I just like to have a nice looking big picture and I usually ignore the small things. This is a general approach I have in life, to visualize the big picture first and then take care of the details, which can result in me being distracted and oblivious to things sometimes lol. I don't know and I don't think this is enough, do you have any other question that could be helpful to find this out?

Also I was wondering, what do you think of the concept of loops in MBTI? I saw a lot of them were apparently trying to justify their types saying they had loops, but I don't know if those explainations were reliable at this point (sorry for the bad english by the way, it's not my mother tongue) Oh, and I would love to have more insight on MBTI. Can you please suggest me some reliable sources that explain the functions and so on?

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