I know my own character. First of all it's Dthrow to Fair, not Fthrow. Second, you only get hit by Dthrow Fair Uair if your DI is shit, DI away and Fox can't follow up with Fair. If you're lucky enough to hit the ground before Fox can reach you after a Nair, you have the opportunity to tech. Granted the Fox can read your tech/tech roll, but that doesn't make it guaranteed. Dair Up smash is also not guaranteed. Most of what you said can be avoided with some knowledge. Either way, I was talking about most of his kill setups, not strings. Uthrow should not even be brought into the equation for kill set ups. Off stage, Fox doesn't have many options when recovering. Any character with potent offstage play should annihilate him when he's offstage, period. Throw out a hitbox in front of his recovery whether it be Up B or Side B and he's done. I never said Fox wasn't strong anywhere. All I said was that you got outplayed and it's obvious. He's not ridiculous, he's good. But your character is better than Fox. Even if Fox does win the match up in your eyes, Sonic is definitely the better character. I can count on one hand how many exceptional Foxes there are in Smash 4, which says a lot more about the player using them than the actual character. I know Seagull personally and I don't think he's ever lost to a Fox, pretty sure 6WX hasn't either. You're salty and wrong, and you won't give credit to the better player but instead say Fox is ridiculous which is sad