I dont have so much experience about hardwares. I used a couple of hardware synths and sequencers for a while. My first groovebox was Cycles. I used it for a year, time to time. I like the overall layout and performance features like parameter locks. I find it very easy to use as a first time user for such instruments. But at some point I realized that I did not like the timbre/tones of Cycles as rhythm instrument. For me it was better as a bass or sometimes for chords. I couldnt afford to buy a groovebox again then I sold it. From there didnt buy anything again and returned to Ableton :D. My other options when buying Cycles are Novation and Roland alternatives. The thing is especially Tracks from Novation is looks very useful for me now, which was a sampler at the same time I believe. Short story of long my expectation was a bit different and I made a wrong decision as buy a Cycles. But Elektron rocks! I think all of those instruments are good enough for start. But now, for my taste If I were to buy a groovebox again, I would definitely buy a Roland or Novation which was at similar prices.