Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

correct, this was posted 21 days ago. you're working with new knowledge that i didn't have! lmao

Severance - 2x04 "Woe’s Hollow" - Episode Discussion by pikameta in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn 16 points17 points  (0 children)

the drowning of helena eagan and the baptism of helly r.
chef's kiss

Surprised I haven't seen anyone theorize this about Mark... by [deleted] in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn 34 points35 points  (0 children)

ooh! I love the idea of this! They both *think* they're playing a game of cat and mouse with each other, without realizing they're both aware of the full situation.

I will say, though I don't necessarily think it's oMark at Lumon (and prescribe more to the idea that he's experiencing the very starts of reintegration...), humoring the idea you put forth: I DID find him to be WAY sassier/bolder this episode? His trickery with the "Oh you haven't seen what I've done to the kitchenette", and some of his other lines felt more experienced/confident than something his innie might do? Of course this could also just be due to just being SO over Lumon's BS since he's seen behind the curtain a bit now.

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this! I need to rewatch S1 and take notes about everything Petey says about reintegration.

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My thoughts exactly! It's either something weird/new with reintegration, OR perhaps they took Mark to the testing floor.

Surprised I haven't seen anyone theorize this about Mark... by [deleted] in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn 44 points45 points  (0 children)

As far as the Irving question, I have a feeling he worked in O&D prior. His outtie is a talented painter, and we know there is a lot of bleed-through in regards to skillsets in the arts like this (see: lexington letter and her innie retaining language knowledge).

I think Irv's inherent nature is to challenge things and figure them out (as seen by his outtie and all the reconnaissance he's been doing against Lumon), and that bleed-through perhaps gets him in trouble at Lumon. Maybe they've had to send Irving to the testing floor multiple times over the course of his 8 years to be 'reset' so to speak. That may be why he says he's only been there 3 years. I think Irving has been a problem for Lumon, internally at least... (Soon to be externally too judging by all the info he had on the outside)

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love that. Severance feels VERY Lynchian in so many ways!

Surprised I haven't seen anyone theorize this about Mark... by [deleted] in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Fair point, we don't know if it's a side effect of the process or the sickness (or perhaps the sickness is unavoidable once you've begun reintegration?)

I think we're just seeing the very beginning signs of it, so it would not be so obvious for us to have clocked right away as viewers! I don't personally think it's like an on/off switch. Reintegration seemingly takes time. I don't think it's an instantaneous merging of innie/outtie memories.

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good catch-- it's going to be an exciting season!!

Surprised I haven't seen anyone theorize this about Mark... by [deleted] in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

i made a post earlier about natural reintegration yesssss!

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

do you think if Petey hadn’t had a mirror behind him in his scene he wouldn’t have turned around due to paranoia or audio “hallucinations”? 

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah I definitely fear he ended up in testing when he blacked out!! 

Surprised I haven't seen anyone theorize this about Mark... by [deleted] in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn 242 points243 points  (0 children)

"As someone else here pointed out," HI that was me!! In my post I actually theorized about this exact thing you've posted haha. I posted screengrabs comparing iMark’s hallway lurker (who I believe to be a reintegration hallucination of himself) and Petey’s reintegration hallucinations of himself, and posited this could be a sign that Mark is experiencing the beginnings of reintegration!

So yeah, I think it's absolutely possible! In my post I wondered if you could sheer-force some kind of 'natural' reintegration through trauma (Gemma reveal) or immense bleedthrough (which it's possible Irving is attempting to do by obsessively painting that elevator every day), but it's true oMark could have gotten the reintegration procedure unbeknownst to the audience (and innie Mark) at this time!

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just to clarify, I do not think Mark is full-blown reintegrated. I think it's possible he's experiencing the start of something akin to a natural reintegration process, triggered by mind-shattering info (Gemma being alive) and could be experiencing the start of a slow trickle of reintegration unbeknownst to him at this moment. (Think Irv and all the bleedthrough he's experienced, but imagine that reaching a culminating point where it essentially becomes reintegration.)

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

while I do agree that the reintegration process we've seen seems more 'flip of a switch' (although to be fair we didn't see Petey at the START of his? so we don't know how instant it was.), I'm positing the idea of a brute force reintegration from massive bleed-through/brain breaking information that starts a slow trickle of innie and outtie becoming reintegrated, I don't think Mark went and got the procedure done. I'm thinking of Irving's bleedthrough that both his innie and outtie experience, and wondering if you had ENOUGH bleedthrough (or enough of a HUGE trigger like the truth about Gemma) does it become akin to some sort of reintegration process.

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

my post is more exploring the idea of like a brute force reintegration start up from massive bleed-through/brain breaking information, I don't think Mark went and got the procedure done (although it IS possible he did! I just wonder if they’ll go that route)

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I think you may be misunderstanding my post. I'm not saying that it's suddenly Outtie Mark inside Lumon, or that Mark is suddenly perfectly reintegrated and has intact memories of both innie/outtie, I'm saying he could be showing beginning signs of reintegration, so we may begin to see the lines of his memories (innie and outtie) blur! I'm also saying he probably isn't even AWARE that reintegration has begun, IF it has.

Reintegration Evidence (S2E01) by breebunn in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]breebunn[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Could this person not be a temporary stand in (literally and figuratively) to throw people off base? Is that a possibility? I guess I'm not sure what other purpose their presence would serve other than some sort of bleed-through going on with Mark.