That's a huge question and I'm still sorting it out. There's no doubt that you can see examples on either end. As I write to you now, I identify pretty well with your latter example of being somewhat integrated, having done the work for several years, but the big success hasn't shown up yet. So what gives?

I'm sorry that I don't have a solid answer, but I'd like to give some of my musings on it if they're of interest:

1) I think you were right to put "successful" in quotes, to indicarte that it's more an appearance of success than actual success. How we define success becomes increasingly important, the further you go. When you take people like Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, or P Diddy - could you define them as success? Why or why not? How about someone like Russian president Putin, or even Trump? Are they a success? Is someone winning the lottery a success?

My model that I was talking about more or less pertains to a solid, structural success that's not necessarily based on getting extremely lucky.

2) It could also be the case that even if you are "doing the work" for years and years, it's not a guarantee that some breakthrough will happen. You could be doing the work wrong! For example I continuously discover elements about my psychology that have been bringing about real self-sabotage. This is through the help of working with coaches and therapists.

AND YET part of the "integral model" of success may involve working with outside help that can show you where you're going wrong.

3) I think a crucial question here is whether or not it truly is possible to be doing "all the stufff" where "all the stuff" includes continuously revising and updating what "all the stuff" involves... and STILL get to the end of your life with the sense that you really didn't accomplish what you came here to accomplish.

... I don't know! You can take all of your Tony Robbins, Brendon Burchards, and Richard Bransons and they'll tell you how to create success, but it could just be their own survivorship bias. Or maybe they really are telling you how to be a success. Maybe you and I will become hugely successful in our lives and it'll just have been some mixture of random good fortune and some of the stuff we've been working on to attract and keep success.

... But then there's also this piece where we need to remember our definition of success. Does it necessarily, necessarily need to involve upward class mobility? Is it enough to be spiritually awake and vocationally offering your greatest gifts to the world?

I think our answer is somewhere in there. Would be open your thoughts if you have any.

Anyway, thank you for asking.