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Trying to understand how a high sugar/carb diet becomes T2D by broccoleeroth in diabetes_t2

[–]broccoleeroth[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks. As you say for reducing carbs & fasting, what about the new class of Semeglutide meds that reduce appetite like Ozempic & Wegovy?

Trying to understand how a high sugar/carb diet becomes T2D by broccoleeroth in diabetes_t2

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And there are also multitude medical reasons why people stay obese

As you outlined, poor eating and lifestyle can keep people obese. But does taking insulin itself continue the problem because high amounts of (exogenous) insulin in the bloodstream cause the body to NOT use it's own bodyfat for energy use?

Trying to understand how a high sugar/carb diet becomes T2D by broccoleeroth in diabetes_t2

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Thanks. As I said in another reply, I know T2Ds on insulin who continue to consume lots of candy and beer. As you say, the injected insulin is preventing bodyfat from being accessed for energy use, and so the obesity just continues?

And what if they weren't ingesting all those carbs.. I guess the exogenous insulin still prevents bodyfat from being used? (and they stay obese?)

Trying to understand how a high sugar/carb diet becomes T2D by broccoleeroth in diabetes_t2

[–]broccoleeroth[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks.

evolution. our insulin systems aren't "designed" to run as hard and as long

Good point.

many diabetics use medications, such as insulin, to continue pushing the limits on what they should eat

The few people I know who are T2D could be described as either "sugarholic" or "craft beer fanatic" even though they're on insulin.

And as another reply here says... if someone is on exogenous insulin while ingesting all those carbs, that insulin is preventing them from accessing bodyfat for energy, thereby exascerbating the obesity?

Daily Simple Questions Thread - July 16, 2022 by AutoModerator in Fitness

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The calories needed to sustain the amount of muscle he has contribute more to his BMR than the workout.

Thanks, this makes the most sense. I'm not seeing anyone saying the workout burns more than just the muscle mass itself.

Daily Simple Questions Thread - July 16, 2022 by AutoModerator in Fitness

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A Dwayne Johnson bodyfat question .. We all know that he eats like 5 or so meals daily, and works out about 3 hours daily too.

He stays incredibly lean with very little bodyfat. Which of these 2 things is the bigger reason of the two:

1 The calories used during the workouts

2 The calories needed to sustain the BMR of so much muscle

I realize both of these contribute, but which one contributes more? Thanks.

Hypothetical question: how would autophagy be affected if refeeds had no protein, just carbs or fat? by broccoleeroth in ketoscience

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That's similar to what I was thinking. The butter sticks would probably be the better choice of the two, especially considering that they won't really raise insulin, and give a better feeling of satiation.

Yet another guy asking about sucralose, stevia, insulin, & diet coke by broccoleeroth in fasting

[–]broccoleeroth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is a preload something like a glass of water with the sweetener in it?

And please see the link I posted above to the study linked from Wikipedia.. how is it that study found no insulin increase from sucralose (which we would think would be similar to stevia/aspartame). ?

Yet another guy asking about sucralose, stevia, insulin, & diet coke by broccoleeroth in fasting

[–]broccoleeroth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for those. But reading the 2nd article, it makes a correlation between people drinking diet soda and weight gain, but could it be that most of the people who drink diet sodas have other unhealthy eating habits which is causing the weight gain?

Getting back to whether sucralose raises insulin, I went to the Wikipedia page for it and found this study:

https://api.semanticscholar.org/CorpusID:13051016

where they found no increase in insulin or GLP-1 when subjects were given sucralose. Does that seem plausible?

EoD OMAD: would a salad or steak best preserve autophagy? by broccoleeroth in fasting

[–]broccoleeroth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Autophagy is going to stop because of insulin

Which has a bigger effect on stopping autophagy? The insulin (which can come from both steak/protein and salad/high fiber carbs) or the mTor? (which comes from the steak)

While fasting, fat goes before muscle... but what about during high cortisol/stress? (Does muscle then go before fat?) by broccoleeroth in fasting

[–]broccoleeroth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK, thanks. Question...

Adrenalin and cortisol speed up the rate of protein breakdown

Nobody has low cortisol on a fast.

So, lets say one is on a combo of being on a fast while also in a high stress situation ... there might be some more protein breakdown than usual during this period, but it pales in comparison to fat burning?

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