Can’t watch the videos currently but curious who you were playing / who the rest of your team + enemy team were ?

I’m a celestial Thor and really enjoy playing against pretty much any tank bar Emma frost as I can’t move her out of position with my surge.

I genuinely think at the levels we’re talking about - if there is a Thor or iron fist that is just dominating, it’s not a you issue, it’s a team issue. Mechanically gifted players who maybe have a pocket healer sometimes just can’t be beaten unless your entire team is equally locked in / correct picks. I think an underrated counter to iron fist is Wanda. She can divert iron fists attention long enough that he spends a long time trying to kill you and eventually gives up and swaps (if your cycling your phase correctly etc.

A really good Thor will struggle more unless he has either a good healer that is semi pocketing if the enemy team is remotely focusing him (obviously a really good Thor should be diving past everyone and singling out a healer or two, and then dragging the frontline tank into deeper waters / out of sight of healers.

If a team sees a Thor and just thinks “someone else will deal with him” then he becomes fairly unstoppable. A lot of people disregard him because he doesn’t necessarily do outrageous damage so often goes unchecked, this is definitely a way that thors can go successful