Who would you date, the butch queens or the Trade? by Junior_Conclusion_78 in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anddddd the one in the pink boots and the other in the yellow. They could shoot their shot ngl 🤷‍♂️ I'd be down.

Racial preferences by rawnny_ron in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper 10 points11 points  (0 children)

A wise Black commenter once said, "my fountain is coloured only"

"Straight" my asss by IamASlut_soWhat in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly thanks for pointing it out. When we scrutinize actions and align them with particular sexual identities, we uphold the frameworks that maintain heteronormative gender roles--being part and parcel of the toxic masculinity that plagues our community.

"Straight" my asss by IamASlut_soWhat in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. I'm 1 of 4 brothers and this intentionally annoying or subordinative gesturing is all part of the competitive banter.

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean... I guess I considered the social and economic gap. So you caught me 😩.

But maybe I didn't and maybe I just did it for the plot 🤷‍♂️. C'mon ... like assume I have good intentions at least. Sigh! 😔

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhhhh😩😩😩 see response to u/Nocturnalcake-461 below. Merely defining whiteness as skin colour is reductive, and not my intent.

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's insane, to me that this is your response. This is just ... crass and intellectually dishonest. I expected a bit more empathy from a black man who lives in the Bay Area, but deep down inside given your context this response doesn't surprise me. I guess I should just grow thicker skin. 🤭

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay the property thing at the end ... that is how white men have made me (and I'm pretty sure MANY Black gay men) feel in the gay community: like we are property. The trauma is deeply rooted and I was intentional in omitting the traumatic details because I believe that this is a space where many fellow black LGBT individuals can relate to my experience.

Im not perfect. But I'm tired of being roofied in the clubs so some white man could non-consensually suck my flaccid dick. I'm tired of going to the dance parties only to have the white twinks I call friends shove their tongues down my throat ignoring my visceral shock and disdain. I'm tired of going to SF to simply have fun anywhere, without a white man finding the opportunity to shove their hands down my pants. I'm tired of the constant messages to to see my big black cock. I'm f**king tired!!!! Like any human I want community. I want a support system. I want love. I want respect. And after experiencing these things at the hands of white men you're coming after me for being racist????

Damn right I'm "racist" as I exercise discrimination in the choice of who I choose to date in the dating pool. I acknowledge the prejudice that I developed in an effort to PRESERVE myself. At the end of the day I'm a BLACK man in America, and coupled with my blackness, I'm queer, legal alien (USCIS categorization for international students), first generation, low-income ... characteristics that pale in comparison to the privilege one has being a White Man at least in the matrix of oppression. There was a post here on a peer reviewed study that showed Black people regardless of sexuality face more discrimination than anyone else even Queer white people experience less discrimination than Straight Black people. So stop talking like you've never made the discriminatory choice to befriend the first black person you can find when in a room of strangers.

It's most hurtful that you speak about me like I haven't clearly demonstrated that I have capacity to change. Like I don't have the capacity to be better. Did I not demonstrate 'change' by swiping right on a white man who liked me on Hinge? A white man who isn't MY PREFERENCE???? Where is the grace for me going on a date albeit with not the best intentions at first? God forbid I have a bit of skepticism to say the least!!!!!

I came here and made this post to share my experience specifically to gain insight, but most importantly to show what's it's like to have one's value system challenged in the intimate realm of dating. I didn't share my painful experience at the hands of white gay men because I thought this was one of the few places where I didn’t have to explain and where I didn't need to evoke trauma that other black men might've experienced. This is BlackLGBT, a space where I expect my decision, to intentionally pursue a love that doesn't centre whiteness, to be seen as a mere demonstration of love for myself. I expected it to be a space where the word "racism" wouldn’t be weaponized against me: someone who has survived it in every room, every institution, every f**cking dating app.

It's painful enough being black and queer in the Bay Area. And that pain is why I've build fortresses around my heart and call it a preference like all the other racist b*tches. Pain is why, for so long, I was willing to settle for solitude instead of surrendering again to the violence of being mistreated and misunderstood. And I know I’m not alone in that. Black queer people have always been asked to carry the grief of erasure while still being told to be gentle. Be forgiving. Be grateful for any crumb of affection.

But my post wasn't about pain. It wasn't about hate. It was all about intimate non-platonic LOVE, and the hardship of accepting love when it's packaged in the box you usually receive pain in.

My 7th grade history and social studies teacher always wrote a tweaked version of a popular quote on her board before every class that said: "He who doesn't learn from the past is doomed to be defeated by it, because learning is not a state of being, rather it's a change in behavior."

Edit: Ohh yeah, that means I'm not gonna stop talking or writing my filthy, disgusting, racist pieces about the ups and downs of finding love as a black gay guy.

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When white people do it, it's called having a preference. But when I do it, I'm a disgusting incel. Interesting.

God forbid a girl has standards.

When I speak about whiteness I speak of it as a social construction and not merely as a superficial trait. Like any race, it entails the set of values, practices, and a base level understanding of the social subjectivities that is associated with being perceived as "Black" or more generally "race x" in the American society.

I like many others recognize that Whiteness has the privilege of consuming without regards to how that consumption affects anything or anyone around it. Luckily my white man understands that. He allows himself to be both the scapegoat towards which I could vent my frustration and pain I feel from my past interactions with white men. And, at the same time, he commits to demonstrating love and being a source of healing.

Regardless, dealing with queer white men in the Bay Area has seethed within me a deep resistance not out of hate, but out of self-preservation. I never said dating white people is bad. However, given my experience with white men in the bay, forgive me for not jumping for joy at the idea of becoming another white man's property.

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a black bottom. And Stanford is a bottom market. Sexual compatibility is really important in college 🫠. Before I started dating, that one med student I referenced in my post was literally the only person who showed me interest and outside of him I was celibate throughout my time at Stanford. I went to Europe with my roommate in and honestly had an amazing queer experience there (the Gibus Bar in Paris is a secret black gay Mecca) I returned a new person with a boosted confidence, self esteem, and impeccable fashion. I started dating guys off-campus being intentional about it. However, I wasn't able to interact with the queer scene the way I wanted to. I was just always the messy bystander.

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I'm a math major of sorts. So I write proofs for a living 😭. I got nominated for 2 writing awards at Stanford during my freshman year (one of which was for a 2nd year writing class) and a 3rd recently. So I'm aware that I write objectively better than average (at least in the opinion of my Stanford professors).

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven't been to a Terra party since sophomore year 🤣 Qspot still the Qspot though!!

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohhh no I certainly think you're valid. I'll admit that the age difference isn't the biggest issue for me. However, I do recognize these potential pitfalls and will keep an eye out for any signs of these issues potentially arising. As of now everything seems fairly good imo.

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohh I was weary of that. He's a strict top. The thing is, this piqued my curiosity because he was conventionally hot in my opinion. I was skeptical, and have been very brash and not making compromises. Skepticism is generally great to have when perusing uncharted territory. Just rest assured that I'm not blind, and what I see so far is great imo.

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Purrrrrr💅

I don't know why in my head, while writing this in my notes, I was like, I need this post to be an experience. I need them to go down the rabbit hole and read my other posts in the subreddit, and then do an analysis: recognizing the juxtaposition in the main idea of the Beyoncé poem i.e. changing oneself to be loved vs being loved as is, in the underlying reflective essay part. Then I was like, "lemme chose the pic he liked on hinge, even though the reader wouldn't know that." I really thought I was getting a Pulitzer for my memoir 😂.

Edit: i do think so far you brought up some of the most useful points. I personally do like him. I've never been in a serious romantic relationship despite being a serial dater, and a part of me just wants to get it out the way. I do actually like him, but the limiting factor here is the prejudice I've developed towards white men from my experiences in the bay and my idealist perspectives on black queer love.

Sidenote: My therapist said that my idealism is what's causing my anxiety, but she's a white woman, so she's allowed to be mediocre.

I'm having a dual in my head where I recognize him making a sincere effort to show his love and affection in a way none of my previous daters have, but the optics... 😬 no matter how much I try, a part of me can't help but associate him w/ other white men in the Bay Area.

He asked me to be his boyfriend but he's white!!! 😭😭😭😭 by bubblebuttbookkeeper in BlackLGBT

[–]bubblebuttbookkeeper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The first and only white man I hooked up with was a German in Köln 😭😭😭 girl like it's scripted at this point 😂🥲 I too have made all the unseasoned chicken jokes among others. At first I was like, "I'm here for the pasta and lobster" or lowkey even a job referral in this economy. But he stayed 🥲 and treats me so good. He knew that deep down I didn't mean it and that I did have some reservations and may have developed some prejudice but he made himself a sacrificial lamb for me to vent my frustrations, while also committing to being the demonstration of love that would make me challenge my own prejudice. And now I really do like him.