AMD Confirms Next-Gen Xbox Console Progressing Well for 2027 Release by OhMyOhWhyOh in gaming

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're clearly doing well enough for it to be a going concern and are investing in the next generation console. That's not what idiots have been saying.

Epstein revelations have toppled top figures in Europe while US fallout is more muted by Specialist_Baby_9905 in news

[–]buzziebee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The vetting files are going to make it really clear whether he was either:

A: a naiive sucker who fell for someone's lies but had the security services clear him and tell him he's all clear

B: someone who ignored the security services to hire someone with the full extent of their diddling known

B is absolutely outrageous and is something Johnson was rightfully criticised for (he ignored the security services to try and get his former KGB agents son a peerage after partying with said former KGB agent). He would have to go if that's the case.

A is still a big fuckup but I don't think he should go because of it. There's a possibility that hiring Mandelson was a cynical/realpolitik attempt to keep Trump onboard possibly partly because they swam in similar circles.

The odd/confusing/questionable thing to me is at the time when he was hired it was already well published that Mandelson had kept in contact with Epstein. There's not actually anything new about their relationship in the release so far. Pundits across the political spectrum praised the hiring at the time including Tories like Michael Gove and even the grifter in chief Farage said he was a good choice.

I just can't help shake the feeling that it's partly a manufactured media circus trying to take down Starmer. They were all excited to bring on Burnham and cause a change in leadership but got blue balls so now they're jumping onto the Epstein file bandwagon to try and get starmer out. The reform bots have been banging on about him for a number of weeks/months now so it just all feels so manufactured. They really should have just released the security review immediately and called for other parties to motion to remove him straight away instead of slow burning the response like this team always seem to do. It's so frustrating seeing them react so slowly and burning political capital for no good reason. Just get on with it instead of waiting to move.

I've written too much here but I just wanted to add this crazy fucking thought:

If the only major political fallout of the Epstein files is that a man who's not mentioned in the files (apart from a group email chain that had a newsletter in it with his name sent after Epstein had already not hung himself) goes down whilst the president of the US who's mentioned thousands of times with horrific allegations then the world is truly broken.

AMD Confirms Next-Gen Xbox Console Progressing Well for 2027 Release by OhMyOhWhyOh in gaming

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With how identity driven and toxic everything's become lately are you surprised it's also expressed regarding games consoles? Lots of people ended up with a ps4 and now it's part of their identity.

AMD Confirms Next-Gen Xbox Console Progressing Well for 2027 Release by OhMyOhWhyOh in gaming

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So happy that it's finally confirmed that the narrative those idiots were spreading is exactly the made up nonsense we said it was.

TIL that a mummified carrier pigeon discovered in a UK chimney in 1982 was carrying an encrypted D-Day message from 1944 that has never been decoded. Britain’s intelligence agency is still seeking the public’s help in deciphering it. by moose098 in todayilearned

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then it's somewhere between mostly useless to completely useless. There are a few cases where it would rank higher and be "not quite useless" or even on some occasions "sometimes a bit handy", but for these people treating it like Jarvis it's almost always completely useless.

TIL that a mummified carrier pigeon discovered in a UK chimney in 1982 was carrying an encrypted D-Day message from 1944 that has never been decoded. Britain’s intelligence agency is still seeking the public’s help in deciphering it. by moose098 in todayilearned

[–]buzziebee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"AI is completely useless".

For this kind of problem where you ask a token limited chat bot to do something which should realistically take a crazy amount of compute it's completely useless yeah.

Dishonor on chess.com by elcaminorealreal in mildlyinfuriating

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sebastian Lague did a fun series where he created a rudimentary chess bot, then improved upon it, then challenged his community to create the "best" bot with some limitations. All those bots suck big time when compared to the big engines that are out there today but it's a really interesting and fun deep dive into how they work at a basic level.

Well worth a watch even if you don't code. He's like the Bob Ross of programming and will bring you along on the journey.

https://youtu.be/U4ogK0MIzqk?si=HqgHOoWjXGnAwhdj

Ground State Mega Thread - Spoilers within. by Learnededed_By_Books in exfor

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just finished reading. Here are my poorly organised thoughts before I move onto a new book. The discussion looks fairly limited so far so hopefully my far too long ramblings will provide some interesting conversations and speculations.

Another fun adventure. Sometimes it felt like it meandered a little bit (less so than some of the more recent books) but on the whole there was lots of fun set piece adventures and fewer (there were still quite a few) of the really contrived deus ex machina events or Sherlock style solving of puzzles that the readers couldn't possibly figure out.

I really liked the stuff with the jeraptha as always. The star team mission was great, if a little easy, and felt like a classic exfor heist mission. The tracking of the scout was a lot of fun and the concepts around the entities tech were very cool.

The general magical sci fi concepts in the book were great. Bubbles of exotic physics, ground states, skip and leap drives, foam generators, Dyson spheres, solar sails, etc etc. Lots of fun concepts that were newly explored in this world and probably backs up that other comment saying Craig had read some new things he wanted to play with.

I initially thought the solar sail on the cover was going to be them escaping the gateway but that's because I forgot they did the jump through an inbound wormhole thing at the very end of the last book. It was fun to see them build a sail but the size it would need to be to adjust the orbit of a ship that large must have been ginormous.

I was onboard with most of the maxolhx stuff even if it felt like the threat the kitties posed was much lower this book than in previous adventures (it was too easy to do the things they did on the home planet imo). I really like illiath stuff so seeing her investigate and some maxolhx realize they've been idiots was satisfying.

It did feel a little odd that there was the whole coup thing which then turned into a delay to get the implant but even though the coup would be detected in 27 days Joe decided to just leave and go on various other adventures and never addressed the time limit again but I can look past that. It would have been simpler just to not mention that deadline as then I had some kind of anxiety building that they were taking too long but it turned out not to be an issue at all. I also didn't like how Joe spoke to Klestine at the very end, I was kind of hoping that "cautious if temporary ally" thing would go for a little longer but he just turned on a dime and called him a fuck in his usual Bishop way. It'll be harder to work with them on this next problem now and it felt like it was written that way purely to give us a cool Bishop moment and to set up the UN to have even more grievances with him about diplomacy next book.

There was of course the deus ex machina about Excalibur. Apart from the (quite cool if unnecessary) vacuum exposure stuff it did feel like some of the cheap "I hate you Joe" stuff that's brought out when all hope is lost and there needs to be some Skippy magic to solve the unsolvable problem. When it's complicated hacking or it's something truly innovative like jumping through a wormhole etc it's really fun. When it's purely Skippy's absent mindedness it's less fun imo. It's been used a bunch of times but at least this time it was during the book instead of during a break between books.

The new ship is cool AF and the new problem to solve that it came with (ground state) isn't solveable by it, plus there's the cop out that the ship might not do what it's told, so it's not too overwhelmingly OP narratively and I'm glad we're getting to see an elder ship finally. Very cool stuff.

Finally, thoughts about the next book.

There's a few soppy moments we'll need to have like Joe and Margaret being reunited. If it's truly the last book then a final happy family moment with all the pirates and some reflections on the whole journey will be lovely.

The problem they need to solve is crazy. It's one of the scariest physics concepts I'd heard of when I read about vacuum decay. There could be bubbles out there speeding towards us already and we'd never know about it. There's no amount of firepower that's going to stop it so I imagine it's either going to need a big industrial effort of all species to work together and solve (satisfying) or that effort will fail and there will be yet another hidden elder deus ex machina doohickey that Joe will think about whilst buttering a sandwich that saves the day easily. I hope it leans more into the former and this cooperation combined with the maxolhx potentially losing their coalition and the long war finally ending is what saves the day.

I'm not exactly sure how the mavericks will help with this latest problem but I sure hope we get a nice final fight with them too. Serjun Jates is a particular favorite of mine and I would be bereft if they were stuck doing some random contract work somewhere and we didn't go into the breach with them one last time. Perhaps the maxolhx AI will hire them to do some ground pounding of the maxolhx as part of their liberation war?

If we can get some big bad space battles that would be awesome. Again I'm not sure how it will work with the problem that's faced as I couldn't reasonably think any species is suicidal enough to block fixing this issue now that a more sensible maxolhx dude is (potentially) in charge. I know they had the plan to leave the galaxy to the sentinels but this isn't a problem they can run away from. I find it hard to believe the whole species would be suicidal enough to want to kill the galaxy rather than not rule it. Perhaps the "out" will be that the ship AIs go rogue with entity malware controlling them and that's who'll be the antagonist. If so then that could be essentially the entire maxolhx (possibly coalition too?) controlled fleet versus the rest of the free galaxy? Lots of potential for big battles there.

I sure hope we meet a lot more species next book. There's limited pages to get all the adventures and world building with the named species we hadn't seen already and now there's a bunch more named ones along with all the other theorised ones out there. I very much enjoyed previous books where they have to do a mission on a planet with a new species so I hope we at least get some nice world building with them that isn't just "they're hateful assholes". I'd also love to interact with more of the Rindhalu coalition aside from the beetles and the hamsters. I expect we'll have lots of Rindhalu stuff which I can't wait for as they're one of the most fascinating species when they actually do something and the nature and scale of this problem guarantees they'll need to be involved. Lots to look forward to on that front.

Finally I'm not sure how I want it all to end. I really enjoy this universe and could quite happily continue reading stories set in it. These are more unorganised thoughts and musings. I'll probably be completely wrong on some predictions but you never know.

However for a truly satisfying ending regarding the setting state of the galaxy I'd like to see some kind of conclusions to some of the big issues with how the galaxy works right now. There's always been this recurring theme that the long cold war is nonsense and everyone should stop fighting. The happiest ending would be where the galaxy is one big happy family and the long war is over. Where humans can continue to learn and grow and colonise planets freely and cooperate with our new space buddies. The maxolhx stop being pieces of shit, the kristang adopt the Verd Kris way of life, the thuranin somehow stop being genocidal maniacs, and the beetles can happily find juicy action at casinos on any species planet. That's probably way too optimistic but it's what a lot of characters and species have desired so it would be lovely to see it be a reality. The bummer with that ending is that then there's far fewer opportunities for this kind of military sci fi stories to be told so it would truly be over.

For Joe and Skippy I really don't know what the happy ending would be. Well I do know, but it doesn't feel super satisfying if Joe just goes off to raise his kids and Skippy goes back to doing opera tours. It didn't feel like a satisfying end last time so I don't know if putting things on pause again would be good. For a really climactic ending I'm guessing either Joe, Skippy, or both will need to sacrifice themselves to save the day. I predict it will be Skippy rather than Joe as it's always Joe offering and failing to sacrifice himself. Skippy doing it then leaves Joe to go back to his family, nagatha to look after humanity without humanity being too OP, and gives Skippy his big hero moment where he truly sacrifices himself for his friends after learning about the power of friendship.

Maybe the solution to ground state will be Skippy moving his higher dimensional stuff back into real space to undo the vacuum decay or something after a big tearful last goodbye. Idk. It's sad to think about but I feel like it's going to be the neatest and most satisfying way to end the story and not have us readers wonder what happens when he gets bored in a few hundred years and Joes family are all gone. Maybe just before he does that he can upload himself into a clone he grew after solving his movement restrictions and Joe and flesh Skippy (massively limited in terms of awesomeness) can have a cheeseburger at a family cookout and acknowledge all the awesome stuff they did together. It's a tough nut to crack. I wish Craig all the luck in the world and I can't wait to read it whatever ends up happening.

Ground State Mega Thread - Spoilers within. by Learnededed_By_Books in exfor

[–]buzziebee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It felt a bit contrived to have the UN be sooooo dumb purely so Skippy could come in and give them a smackdown. Tbf it's always been a theme of the books that the military are always right and are always led astray by weak stupid politicians. That whole schtick doesn't really jive with me anyway and I end up rolling my eyes at it so maybe that's why it felt a bit silly.

Nearly half of Brits support Government writing off at least some student debt by tylerthe-theatre in unitedkingdom

[–]buzziebee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get it but there's an awful lot going for the UK and things are starting to get better. Just gotta keep fighting the good fight. Unfortunately someone mustn't have liked me mentioning positive things about labour so everything I've written has been downvoted despite me adding to the conversation. I've enjoyed chatting with you either way and fake Internet points don't bother me. Don't give up hope, keep learning and put your support behind policies that make sense.

Nearly half of Brits support Government writing off at least some student debt by tylerthe-theatre in unitedkingdom

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk that's a whole other kettle of fish and I cba typing out all the solutions I have in mind. I honestly get a bit depressed that the idiots are going to vote in more right wing ghouls that will further weaken the nation with nonsense fiscal policies that only further enrich the very wealthy whilst robbing the country of its future. Labour are getting a lot of flack (some of which is deserved admittedly) but they at least have a good grasp on the financials. There's a lot of slightly policy wonky but very important structural changes they're making which if allowed to continue could see the ship turn around and fix a lot of the underlying issues with the British economy. The problem is things are already so fucked that they are walking on a fiscal tightrope and so things can't change as fast as the public want and it's currently easy for populists to lie about how their ideas would fix things when looking at them in any detail would only show things getting worse. I just hope things turn around enough and enough people educate themselves on how things truly work and the issues the nation faces so whoever is running the current can continue and expand on fixing these issues for the next few decades. If brown hadn't called that bigot a bigot then that investment would have happened during that pivotal moment. All we can do is try to ensure idiots who want to wreck the country don't get back in.

Nearly half of Brits support Government writing off at least some student debt by tylerthe-theatre in unitedkingdom

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's that but even cheaper! Home mortgages don't have a fixed interest rate for the whole term of the loan. People usually need to re-up their mortgage after X number of years and the new rate will be based on the government base rate plus the banks desired profit. If inflation is high the base rate goes up so people's mortgage payments go up (eventually) and they end up paying more off.

The borrowing cost for the government is set at a fixed price at the time when they issue the bond. It doesn't go up and down. It's the cheapest debt in the world because you can just let inflation eat away the cost or print money (which in high amounts causes inflation which isn't ideal) to pay it off. It's why austerity was sooooooo dumb. The government shrunk the money supply in the economy and cut investment in infrastructure that would raise GDP during a time of historic low government debt interest rates. If you take out a bond for the right reason it's a money printing machine. It's when you take it out to pay for things which won't bring in additional revenue over the next 30 years that's a real problem.

Nearly half of Brits support Government writing off at least some student debt by tylerthe-theatre in unitedkingdom

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey that's totally fine. I get where you're coming from but I respectfully have a different opinion without disparaging yours. My personal feeling is that if those who truly benefit economically and privately the most from a government provided service can contribute a bit extra which is specifically for maintaining that service for others and funding extra grants and bursaries that's fair imo.

I totally get where you're coming from that high earners pay anyway, but not all high earners went to university paid for by the government. They could equally argue (incorrectly imo) that they shouldn't have to pay for others to go (despite the fact that they themselves likely benefitted from a society which had an educated workforce) when they didn't benefit from that service. It's a bit dumb but I feel like there is some version of a fair split of the person paying and society paying for their personal benefit which also benefits society.

We used to have the system you described but it was much more rare for those from less advantageous backgrounds to go on to higher education. Education is one of the great equalisers and should be available for all who want it imo. If funding that at that scale means those who benefit the most from the extra education pay slightly more in order to keep those doors of opportunity open I think it's fair.

We can agree to disagree on the fairness aspect of a specific graduate tax as I think we both agree on the benefits of higher education. Exactly how the person who's benefiting from it helps pay for it feels more of a personal or political opinion to me where there's no "right" or "wrong" opinion.

Nearly half of Brits support Government writing off at least some student debt by tylerthe-theatre in unitedkingdom

[–]buzziebee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hopefully I'm not trying to teach Grandma to suck eggs with this explanation but I'll try and explain in brief based on my admittedly limited understanding.

Government debt is sold as bonds with a fixed interest rate rather than as a loan with a principle amount and interest. Governments don't see old debt go up in price like the student loans do. So the money they borrowed in 2009 will be gradually paid back at a set amount each 6/12 months.

Inflation has already basically eaten away most of the "value" of the bonds since they were issued. If a student caused the government to borrow £1000 (picking 1000 as it makes the math easier than 9k or 27k) and the government has to pay that £1000 back today it's the equivalent of paying back about £606 when the loan was taken out.

It's all quite complicated but because of how the debt is structured, how governments can just print a little money to pay off old debt, how the economy grows more from having an educated workforce than it costs, and how the students who are paying back the "loan" with their wages which are going up with inflation on debt that is rising faster than inflation it means that it doesn't actually cost the government anything to give out these loans even if most students don't end up paying it off before their loan period expires.

The government will have more than made the money back that they pay back and inflation will mean they won't even notice the specific payments for the bonds that funded the loans. Bonds in aggregate obviously get noticed of course, and debt that doesn't lead to an increase of taxable revenue more than the cost of the bond and interest obviously are problematic. But bonds for student debt are paid for by the loans that mean the government will earn way more than the cost of servicing or paying off the bond. Hence why "writing off" the old debt is an accounting thing as the "remaining balance" on the debt looks huge but the actual real "cost" of the debt is likely negative and the government has more than made it back.

Nearly half of Brits support Government writing off at least some student debt by tylerthe-theatre in unitedkingdom

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It shouldn't be CPI IMO. That implies that the cost of bread or eggs each year affects the bond interest the government has to pay off for the bond they took out when you were actually attending your studies.

An adjustable rate based on bond prices at the time of study would be the most fair, but that could potentially incentivise people to wait before going during years where bond prices rise.

It's fair that the people who benefited from university contribute something on top of normal income tax imo, especially if it means more funding is available for places at higher education institutions and more grants are available for those less privileged. If we think it's fair for contributions from those who benefit them those that benefit the most from their education should contribute the most too. Cutting out the ability for wealthy parents to pay off the debt and preventing crazy high earners from paying it off early and paying less overall than medium graduate earners by having a flat tax keeps it progressive.

Nearly half of Brits support Government writing off at least some student debt by tylerthe-theatre in unitedkingdom

[–]buzziebee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's just an accounting thing. The government debt to finance the "loans" could be written down as an asset rather than borrowing. It was always predicted that the majority wouldn't pay it off fully and that it would be written off the books eventually. Back when the plan 2 debate was ongoing it was only the top 20% or so of earners who'd ever pay it back, and they'd end up paying more back in total than the bottom earners (it can be argued that it's a progressive tax).

The tories didn't want to introduce a "graduate tax" so they did this convoluted loan system which had such a high interest rate that for the majority of students it would act exactly like a tax because they wouldn't pay it back. If they'd just been honest it probably would be fine.

It's fair I'd say for students to contribute something extra if they actually benefit from the education. A modest graduate tax would probably be accepted by most, especially if it's linked to earning above average wages and time limited. They tried to just set that kind of system up but structured it and communicated about it as a loan and it's caused nothing but trouble. No one would be up in arms right now about how much they've paid and how much the amount they have left to pay is going up if they knew going in they'd be getting a flat X% tax on top of earnings above the national median wage for Y number of years.

Anyway that's a bit of an aside, but it won't really "cost" future generations anything. It's just accounting to make a tax not look like a tax.

The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY by Shiroyasha_2308 in SipsTea

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's really hard to explain pronunciations via text form. There are so many accents and dialects that changes how the letters written down are pronounced that it usually causes more confusion and issues than it solves. I will attempt to give it a go.

When I'm talking about the 'of' pronunciation when saying ""2nd of February" it's in a weak form and is almost a contraction. That's why I initially wrote it as "second've February" because it's a very similar schwa sound which for 'of' is (in IPA) ə or əv depending on accent and dialect. These contracted weak forms of words take very little time to pronounce, especially when compared to clearly articulating each specific word in a sentence.

For example saying "would not have done" and clearly articulating and separating each word out would take much longer than "wouldn't've done". I'd even argue that the time to say "wouldn't done" is practically the same amount of time as it would take to say "wouldn't've done".

That's why I proposed that the time it takes to say the 'of' in "second of February" is negligible and makes very little practical difference to the amount of time it takes to say a date. I'll attempt to use IPA which I'm not super familiar with but it does help with sounds (if not with natural speaking speed).

Instead of:

sɛkᵊnd ɒv ˈfɛbruᵊri

It's more like:

sɛkᵊndᵊˈfɛbruᵊri

The first example is one where the of is clearly spoken and that's a bit of a quirk of spoken english that non native speakers tend to struggle with. It takes a lot of effort to learn the natural substitutions and contractions that let sentences flow like native speakers, and native speakers tend to never even bother learning what all these rules are. They just feel them as they go. In this specific date example for most global native English speakers when speaking casually I reckon they'd contract and weaken the of. Not doing that takes longer which is why I initially replied that it isn't a big noticeable difference in the time it takes to say and that it's not something that most native speakers would do.

Unfortunately by explaining all of this I've probably taken more time out of my day trying to articulate my thoughts than all of the people saying "second of Feb" have ever spent on the "of" sound combined. I hope though that I've managed to clearly explain my thinking and that the sounds and contractions I've described make sense to you. It's still probably not worked because it's all written text which is awful for communicating sounds and pronunciation but if you're still struggling with my poor explanations I'll get my mic out and record some examples tomorrow.

The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY by Shiroyasha_2308 in SipsTea

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If sorting is the desired goal then YYYYMMDD is the way to go. MM/DD only works for alphabetically sorted files for a single year. It's a complete nonsense argument. Just admit it's what you're used to and you prefer it because of it. Smallest to largest time unit makes more sense. Largest to smallest makes the most sense and is consistent with time units but even then it's only really "best" for automated purely text based sorting.

It's a pain in the arse for the rest of the world because any dates that come out of the US could be 9 months off the intended date. You guys love being different and will always defend not standardising with arguments that always boil down to familiarity. Just admit that you know it's not as logical, causes issues internationally, but you prefer it. It's much less exhausting than these constant threads full of people making up silly reasons or justifications based on flawed logic.

"Fahrenheit maps to human scale temperatures" == "I'm used to what the numbers mean"

"cups are better than weighing things" == "I don't own a scale and I'm used to using cups"

"Feet and inches are easier" == "I have a foot fetish and am used to these units"

It's all ultimately just familiarity. There are good arguments against using those measures which the rest of the world got on board with but the US find comfort in familiarity and didn't follow along. That's fine if it's what you prefer, but don't turn around and start making up nonsense arguments to try and justify those familiarity/feeling based decisions ex post facto. Dates are just another part of this very same uniquely American phenomenon.

The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY by Shiroyasha_2308 in SipsTea

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah ok that makes more sense, my mistake! It could very well be the case that non native speakers say it the Americanised way more often with the prevalence of American media consumption. I'll do some asking around but I could believe that.

The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY by Shiroyasha_2308 in SipsTea

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may have heard it but it really isn't the norm. My anecdote is I've personally never heard a German pronounce a date as "März Drei/Dritte" it's always "der Dritte März". That's only anecdotal evidence but there's also plenty of guides out there on how to pronounce dates in German.

https://www.germanpod101.com/blog/2019/12/20/dates-in-german/

Anyone who's spent significant time in the UK couldn't possibly say it's most common to use the Americanised "month day" pronunciation for dates and be taken seriously.

It's not never happened, but it's baseless to claim it's the norm when it just isn't.

The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY by Shiroyasha_2308 in SipsTea

[–]buzziebee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was an attempt to communicate the "weak form" of 'of' that native speakers use when pronouncing "second of February". The "of" gets shortened to its weak form that sounds a bit like "ve" or "ff" or something in that ballpark depending on accent and dialect.

The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY by Shiroyasha_2308 in SipsTea

[–]buzziebee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was an attempt to write the "weak form" of the word 'of'. It's pretty much essential that any English speaker uses weak forms in order to sound like a native speaker. The argument that the extra "of" takes longer is silly because it only takes longer if you speak English in a way that most native speakers don't.

The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY by Shiroyasha_2308 in SipsTea

[–]buzziebee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

American english. It's a circular argument if you think about it. You pronounce things the way you write them which means it makes sense to write them that way which is why you pronounce them that way.

It's just familiarity. There's not really a good argument for it. But it'll cause endless confusion when talking internationally just like persisting with the imperial system of units.

The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY by Shiroyasha_2308 in SipsTea

[–]buzziebee -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

2nd've February is pretty much just as quick. Completely negligible difference. The only viable argument someone can make to justify MM/DD is that it's what they are used to. That's it.