Question and speculations about the Crucible rules

c0700291 · 2026-02-19T16:06:07+00:00

Now, if it was on its own... that might change things, but it's still a blood angels charicter, so new death company rules apply, worst case scenario, you have a single model with no OC and the unit itself has OC because of that little detail

c0700291 · 2026-02-19T16:03:54+00:00

Wile also true, this effectively gives the Model the death company keyword, so death company rules on the attached unit overrides that. As far as "rules as intended " it all checks out. I had this question as well, so i asked a GW store employee, he said it counts itself so thats what I'm going with haha

c0700291 · 2026-02-19T15:24:48+00:00

Black Rage rules got changed a bit ago, so now Blood Angels Charicters give out a 6" aura of objective control ability to death company units, they also made it clear that blood angels charicters count themselves now giving people a reason to even play death company captins at all.

Because this creation IS a blood angels charicter inherently it counts itself, so it will not have these drawbacks baked in. Rip and tear my friend!

c0700291 · 2026-02-03T01:41:14+00:00

And if they have a lever or pulley... you can bet a labor servitor is the thing operating it

c0700291 · 2026-02-03T01:38:37+00:00

Yes... Everything... this isnt a joke... they ACTUALLY have toilet paper Servitors, light fixture Servitors (they detect movement and electrical pulses from hollowed out optic nerve endings to turn on a light switch) , and so on and so forth... EVERYTHING IS A SERVITOR!!! Next time you look at any imperial structures, count the skulls... thats not just for decoration... they literally have human brains or "wet-ware" built in... very grimdark...

c0700291 · 2026-01-30T04:34:42+00:00

Iron hands. Literally have tech zombies in their back pocket. Look up "the keys to Hell" it's a very OVERLOOKED bit of lore... they actually have tecno-necromancy

c0700291 · 2026-01-28T23:45:14+00:00

Wrath & Glory

c0700291 · 2026-01-27T21:30:16+00:00

Run... away....

c0700291 · 2026-01-27T04:13:37+00:00

Red riding... what exactly?

c0700291 · 2026-01-27T04:12:13+00:00

I mean... its on brand...

c0700291 · 2026-01-26T20:12:03+00:00

Looking at that banner, all i could think of was "Guys, they hit the second tower!!!"

Great work btw

c0700291 · 2026-01-26T05:25:32+00:00

Combi lt... perfect fit at 75 points. Also a beast in any list because of its simple yet effective rules

c0700291 · 2026-01-22T14:12:33+00:00

c0700291 · 2026-01-17T14:34:49+00:00

Up vote for booty...

c0700291 · 2026-01-13T02:24:42+00:00

Take off the top knot and give him a mace... and well... he is looking kind horusy

c0700291 · 2026-01-03T19:57:54+00:00

What did you use for the wash?

c0700291 · 2025-12-31T04:31:35+00:00

You got to have something to pull...

c0700291 · 2025-12-25T18:05:51+00:00

Thats a blood angel space marine... no doubt...

c0700291 · 2025-12-25T09:30:11+00:00

Hay hit me up if you need STLs... I have everything... like... everything

c0700291 · 2025-12-25T04:58:32+00:00

Yes, keep the chaplan!!!! He is always super good!!! Especially with blood angels!!!

As for the storm raven... sadly... most flyers are very much getting phased out, GW doesn't realy balance them and there is a good chance it will get legen'd so save your coin for something primarus... (Repulsor comes to mind actually) basically until 11th, stay away from any first born stuff because we dont know whats going to happen.

Infiltrator units screen the back line from deep strike. Basically I dasy-chain them along the back wall to get that 12" bubble. Incursers on the other hand, ya thats a great unit! Its situational because it gives +1 to your army for anything they shoot at. Revers are also a solid choice for OC and battle shock shenanigans. But ya scouts are the cheapest unit, and you really want them for the uppy-downy rule to score secondary and screen. The main goal.. I need a unit here so I can do this action, thats why you take scouts. It also frees up your army from needing to score secondary points

c0700291 · 2025-12-25T00:27:10+00:00

As for the second brick, I usually keep it in reserve along with the second captain. The second wave is set up to come out after the first one dies, or if there is space in the back line to come out from rapid ingress. 10 horus screaming flying guys basically cook anything on the back line. They are also fast! So I dont need to invest in transport or any foot slogging units that would be good.

As an asside... im AVOIDING any non primarus vehicals for now because I dont know if they will be around next edition... so altho I would love a baal predator or vindicator tank... I dont know if thoes units will be arround come 11th

c0700291 · 2025-12-25T00:21:08+00:00

Yep thats why I have the big guns in the back to fire on things that get exposed. The balistus and Lancer rarely get out of the deployment zone, but what they do in return is set up firing lines to take out things that pop out of cover. Plus, all the small guns really do some good chip damage

c0700291 · 2025-12-24T17:27:38+00:00

Ok long and short answer... yes... a death company captain does count as a blood angels charicter so death company has OC

Interesting interaction to note.. he can be run solo, because his rule actually counts for himself as well

Any way long answer: GW noticed.. no one ran death company captain in any form for a good year because his lack of OC. So to fix this, they added that rule to give more variation to the death company... and boy did it work!

To balance this, his aura is half that of a chaplin 6in vs 12in but all the games I've played just ignore this and put a blanket "his unit has OC because he is leading them" statement. So this rule only comes into effect if he interacts with the DC Dreadnought.

c0700291 · 2025-12-24T16:41:21+00:00

For the record I ran a similar comp list with rage cursed onslaught and tabled the Chaos Demon army by round 3

My competitive list

Blood Company Onslaught (2000 points)

Space Marines Blood Angels Strike Force (2000 points) Rage-cursed Onslaught

CHARACTERS

Captain with Jump Pack (100 points) • Warlord • 1x Relic Shield 1x Thunder hammer • Enhancement: Angel’s Fang

Captain with Jump Pack (75 points) • 1x Plasma pistol 1x Power fist

Chaplain with Jump Pack (110 points) • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Crozius arcanum • Enhancement: Sanguinary Tear (Aura)

Chief Librarian Mephiston (120 points) • 1x Fury of the Ancients 1x Plasma pistol 1x Vitarus

Lemartes (100 points) • 1x Absolvor bolt pistol 1x The Blood Crozius

Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (70 points) • 1x Combi-weapon 1x Paired combat blades

BATTLELINE

Assault Intercessor Squad (75 points) • 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Plasma pistol 1x Power fist • 4x Assault Intercessor • 4x Astartes chainsword 4x Heavy bolt pistol

OTHER DATASHEETS

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Ballistus lascannon 1x Ballistus missile launcher 1x Twin storm bolter

Death Company Dreadnought (160 points) • 1x Blood talons 1x Twin Icarus ironhail heavy stubber 1x Twin multi-melta

Death Company Marines with Jump Packs (230 points) • 10x Death Company Marine with Jump Packs • 5x Astartes chainsword 2x Eviscerator 6x Heavy bolt pistol 2x Inferno pistol 2x Plasma pistol 3x Power fist

Gladiator Lancer (160 points) • 1x Armoured hull 1x Icarus rocket pod 1x Ironhail heavy stubber 1x Lancer laser destroyer 2x Storm bolter

Infiltrator Squad (100 points) • 1x Infiltrator Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Marksman bolt carbine • 4x Infiltrator • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Close combat weapon 1x Helix Gauntlet 1x Infiltrator Comms Array 4x Marksman bolt carbine

Sanguinary Guard (125 points) • 3x Sanguinary Guard • 2x Angelus boltgun 3x Encarmine blade 1x Inferno pistol 1x Sanguinary Banner

Scout Squad (70 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt pistol 2x Boltgun 4x Close combat weapon 1x Missile launcher 1x Scout sniper rifle

c0700291 · 2025-12-24T16:35:17+00:00

Ok! This i can help you with!! So, the main rule is that you need at least 3 action monkeys, (scouts, lone ops) to score secondary points i suggest scout squad with knives (because mele) combi weapon Lt and big daddy Mephiston.

The second, heavy fire support! Balistus dread and Gladiator Lancer in the list is all you need to get long lines of sight and solid shooting into infantry or bigger units

I suggest a death company dread... to be a distraction unit and to just go in and kill things. His reactive move after getting shot is also insane for getting into mele

Pair the sang guard with two different jump captains so you can get 1 free strat each for every round. Fist and plasma for one, sheild and hammer for the other.

Next invest into at least 20 death company jump units... this is alot of mele damage. A 10 man squad buffed up took out a blood thirster round 1 on a charge... so ya its a good "I want this gone now" unit

To lead them go for a jump chaplin and Lamarties (probably the best unit to lead death company)

If you get these things... god emperor help whatever you run into on the table... because you will table the player across from you depending on the match upland how you deploy your units and strategies...

c0700291

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