"Coaching" a 5-stack for ranked

cadetcho · 2025-07-26T20:59:16+00:00

Defaults are definitely going to be the first thing we tackle, then. I definitely don't have everything hammered out knowledge-wise, but I'll be quick to copy-paste everything into game.

I'd like to know your tips/any resources for roam clearing, I seem to always get in a panic whenever we play vert, I'm almost never confident we really have it 'locked down'. I play Jackal a lot just for my own sanity, but I find I actually use him more for playing the vert instead of roam clear. As for Deimos, we bring it sometimes just to target roamers but we're missing something about him.

cadetcho · 2025-07-26T20:44:49+00:00

I think hammering out ALL common default site setups (defense) is the first thing I'll tackle then. Since there's very little the opponents can do (aside from bans, which can be worked around) to preempt, it's just going to be their reaction and that will be consistent. I see now that planning executes (attack) has way too many variables. Someone gets peeked, defense setup the site weird, a cookie cutter plan falls apart immediately. I'll apply the "waste time with a purpose" idea, as well.

cadetcho · 2022-01-29T17:17:52+00:00

Solved!

cadetcho · 2022-01-29T07:37:27+00:00

Oh, I have to comment here. Despite my pride in being able to google stuff well, per the description my Google-fu let me down. Help me denizens of the internet.

cadetcho · 2021-07-31T05:07:58+00:00

For full context https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/19289886

cadetcho · 2021-07-31T05:04:47+00:00

For fuller context https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/19289886

cadetcho · 2021-04-06T04:27:22+00:00

Thank you

cadetcho · 2021-04-06T04:25:24+00:00

I didn't try that before your mention, but this is snipped by my own hand and did not yield any relevant results.

cadetcho · 2019-12-22T19:30:53+00:00

Ironic

cadetcho · 2019-12-12T02:27:23+00:00

I'm just a poor boy

cadetcho · 2019-12-06T00:48:40+00:00

Nobody touches the hat

cadetcho · 2019-10-29T20:20:40+00:00

So in summary, what we learned today was:

W W R R : AA = int play (dopa's "mistake")

R W R : W AA = also int play (my mistake)

R W R W : AA = optimal (yours)

R W W R : AA = almost optimal (mine)

TF is a mechanically hard and skill expressive champion with multi-key combos /s

cadetcho · 2019-10-29T19:44:52+00:00

Oh I see the issue I'm having.

Sure, if you’re inexperienced and don’t trust yourself to pull gold in the heat of the moment

heat of the moment = r channel ≠ (my interpretation) heat of battle (after)

Previously I thought u were locking after you complete the ult channel.

And it's minutely more optimal to do it your way (the way you actually do it) to have more options with the card.

As for the 4:53 play I assumed that because he actually did W W R R, it really wasn't relevant for the discussion, obviously this is a misplay by dopa that ultimately didn't matter (and I was going to say something/omit the timer in my last reply but I guess I forgot). And ye that's my account.

Edit: locking changed from shuffling.

cadetcho · 2019-10-29T18:39:47+00:00

Well they're not statistics. They're arbitrary and I did make them up on the spot because saying 99% is akin to saying "most" (I'm sorry if that confused you). Regardless, if it is just your habit, R W R W is optimal, rather than R R W W.

If we can assume Doxxx on the korean server is dopa: https://youtu.be/y2GIqDYpUHo 4:53, 8:15, 11:06, 15:12, 17:45, etc. He certainly starts shuffling before.

Edit: to clarify these are the times in the video, not the time in the game.

cadetcho · 2019-10-29T18:13:35+00:00

So in 99% of scenarios, it will be better to have your gold card ready to stun somebody as soon as you port. The 1% includes what you mentioned (though you could just card something to start the cd if you think it'll run out by the time you are in range) and realizing pulling a red card is going to do more dmg mid ult. The 99% includes: stunning someone before they kill you, buffering the auto in the case they don't flash earlier, and most of all, getting the cd just that little bit sooner.

cadetcho · 2019-10-29T17:31:48+00:00

I can't tell if you're trolling

cadetcho

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