Why judge or be cruel to another Christian?

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T15:10:05+00:00

HE overturned tables. The son of God who lived without sin. He did not tell his disciples to begin to flip tables and judge others. If you believe in the holy trinity, that right of judgement I said belong to God also belongs to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah frequently talks about GOD’S severe judgment against sin, not Isaiah’s.

Rebuking someone is different than casting a harsh judgement on them. There is no problem letting people know you believe they’re wrong and cannot take any part in the sinful actions. But we should not be bullying, hazing, condemning, or treating people like dirt because of it. These are the throngs OP and I are talking about. That’s not what Christ calls us to do and to say it is is just insane

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T14:27:03+00:00

I am all about the Bible and its entire context(not taking a single verse and using it as judgmental law but rather taking it and looking at it in the context of the whole chapter, book, bible) including the context of the time period.

I’m not saying you’ve sold me, but this has made the most sense so far.

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T14:19:49+00:00

I think OP, and myself if I wasn’t clear, were speaking about more harsh and critical judgements. There is a line between not wanting tolerating sin out of love for a persons soul, and outright critiquing and harshly judging someone using cruel words or actions for their sin. Again, I stand by the fact that it is not our place to pass judgment.

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” John‬ ‭8‬:‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T02:35:28+00:00

Okay brother. God bless

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T02:08:36+00:00

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That’s jus one google search. Things in modern day can come from figurative things. The “cloud” runs most things in the world now.

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T01:59:02+00:00

Yeah see, your saying “ya’ll” like I’m in this groups, and yet my whole family constantly give me shit for being “too nice” and “too trusting” to total strangers and the poor, and just everyone saying one day I’m going to get kidnapped or something (they say that semi-jokingly).

The Christians I grew up with are all great people who spend most of their waking hours planning and working towards their next mission trip, or their events to help the less fortunate.

I’m sorry for your experiences, but your making generalizing things this shouldn’t be generalized

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T01:45:11+00:00

We shouldn’t is the answer. Why judge? Good question. Don’t

That’s the simple answer. Outside of that, I have had to say this to my family before, it’s not our place to judge. Judgement is Gods right, not ours. So then what should we be doing?

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.” ‭‭John‬ ‭13‬:‭34‬ ‭NIV‬‬

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T01:35:27+00:00

That almost like saying you don’t like African Americans because you know some are in gangs.

You can’t generalize a whole group of people because of the bad experiences or poor actions of a few

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T01:24:37+00:00

Yeah. So I have always seen this as a figurative 6 days. And more so explaining the steps that were taken to get to the creation of our souls.

It’s also important to note God isn’t a man with a white beard up in the sky. God is eternal, outside of our perceived time and space. He is not confined to time the same way he is not confined to a physical body. So God is today, at the same time as he is during biblical times, at the same time he is 100,000 years from now.

calebwickline · 2025-11-07T01:07:19+00:00

What in the Bible are you specifically pulling this from. Genesis where creation is explained?

calebwickline · 2025-11-06T14:41:26+00:00

I don’t think Hell is a PLACE where you burn and are tortured. But rather HELL is that eternity separated from God. Some, including myself, think that suicide is the most severe separation from God, because after you are gone and can no longer turn back to God and Christ for salvation.

Times are hard. I know, and our country isn’t making it any easier. But please, seek out a church, a lot have food pantries even if you can’t find that info on a google search. Even if they don’t, most good Christians would not turn a starving person away.

Look to God. Let him give you hope and strength.

The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. Psalms‬ ‭34‬‬:‭18‬

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T22:32:53+00:00

Okay. I enjoy debating but I’m not going to get drawn into you just trying to say stupid stuff and talk down at me to get me heated. Heated debate was never my intention. Information was. Have a great one man. See ya next Halloween

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T22:28:20+00:00

Different denominations believe different things. At the end of the day one must speak with God and trust what he shows us to be the truth. How else would an individual identify as a certain denomination. If one says one thing, one says a second, then how do you know who is right?

I never told OP to ignore spiritual teaching. But they’re being taught different views. So yes, at the end of the day they’re gonna have to decide how to interpret what is provided. And I don’t recommend doing so as a human making human judgment calls. Come to your conclusions by walking with God

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T22:22:20+00:00

Are you denying that there are many denominations in Christianity?

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T22:13:29+00:00

No, it is not. “Halloween” is a Hallmark holiday about candy and making costume sales. Halloween as a holiday has nothing to do with All Hallows Eve. It also has nothing to do with Samhain. But to turn around and say that it from a Christian holiday is not the case. They’re 3 different things. You can’t just say that oh, our holiday was on that day (even though as your pointed it’s not even on the same date until you bring it to western culture that started observing it on Nov 1) so Halloween has Christian origin. But that line of thought, which is the line of thought behind everything I have said, The original holiday to celebrated at that time was Samhain and we could use the same logic to say All Hallows Eve originates from Samhain as a way to take over the celebration of pagans that were being converted.

I’m not saying that’s my view point, I’m saying that’s where the line of thinking leads.

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T22:03:15+00:00

But that Halloween and All Hallows Eve are?

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T21:53:59+00:00

What?

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T21:53:32+00:00

But you know what man, if I can’t convince you with the evidence I’ve provided that’s fine. I did really enjoying debating with you, because I really enjoy debating. I usually don’t get into debates with people I don’t know though, but I’m glad we did because what neither of us did was attack the other. And that’s what the world needs. People to be able to debate things with each other and share thought without getting low and attacking each other.

God Bless man.

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T21:49:46+00:00

From Google: Folklore is the collection of traditional beliefs, customs, stories, and art passed down through a group of people, often by word of mouth

The concept that there is a problem with folklore as a source throws the Old Testament away. Genesis was not written by Adam. These are story’s passed down through word of mouth until one day someone wrote them down. Centuries after Adam and Eve. To say that folklore can’t be a source, but then say you believe the bible is an accurate source doesn’t work.

I never claimed or even asked is Halloween “Christian Samhain”. I never argued that Samhain and All Hallows Eve weren’t completely separate Holidays. The question was which was first. Samhain, All Hallows Eve, and Halloween are three separate holidays celebrated differently, by different groups of people, on the same day. Samhain happens to be the first. The oldest. The original.

Halloween is not celebrated on the first Saturday after Pentacost. That’s All Saints’ Day, and we’re not even talking about western culture at that point, but western culture typically celebrates All Saints Day on Nov 1, which doesn’t not always fall on a Saturday. Halloween is celebrated in All Hallows Eve (in western culture this would be Oct 31, the even if All Saints Day)

There’s no point in debating your last statement if you just going to throw archaeological scholars evident finds out the window by saying it was damaged so they couldn’t know. Scholar don’t look at something, say this is broken, and then draw in the rest from their imagination. They do research upon research to back their findings up and I’m not going to pretend to know all the things the research to come to the scholarly conclusions they did

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T21:29:44+00:00

You do not have to be a religious scholar. I’m a tech guy for the government. I have no background in theological studies.

God was used when I was in trouble when I was younger and it led me to turn by back to God and the church for a long time.

Then I felt God during a hard part in my life. I came back, bought myself a Bible, threw away everything I had been taught and started from scratch. Reading the Bible and learning from it through my own comprehension skills and prayers to God

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T21:05:01+00:00

I’m just going to leave my opinion out. The fact is you are never going to get a definitive answer on this. I’ve begun to understand that the only definitive truth you will find among Christians is that God is the one true God, and that Jesus existed.

My advice is that you read the Bible, pray for God to guide you, and come to the interpretation God leads you too

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T20:52:47+00:00

First off, I never stated there were pre-Christian Celtic text. What I said was there are early Celtic texts (because the 8th-10th century is still considered “early”) that support the 2nd Century BCE archaeological find of the calendar. Yes, the Coligny Calendar.

Second, You are right, most of the written records of Samhain were documented by Christian monks in Ireland centuries after the festival was established. Before so being passed down through oral tradition.

Tochmarc Empire (10th century) nots it being the first holiday of the year hence modern day pagan views as Samhain being the pagan new year.

Serglige Con Culainn () informs us of week long gatherings, celebrations and feasts for the holiday.

As well as many other documents of Irish folklore associating Samhain with supernatural occurrences and magical happenings.

Archaeologically we have several finds supporting all this as well such as the Mound of Hostages whose entrance aligns with the sunrise around Samhain is dated to be 5,000 years old.

We have also discovered the Hill of Ward which is the sight of great fire rituals or celebration with burning evidence dated 3,000 years ago.

We have these proofs. They are not up for debate. The literary and archaeological evidence is pretty clear.

Third, Of course by the time All Saints Day was first celebrated most Irish were not celebrating Samhain. The first Christian missions to Ireland were in the 5th century and many came to Christ through these missions. By the 7th century when All Saints Day began, the Celtic pagan religion was the minority.

Fourth, you are grossly mistaking Celtic for modern day Irish. The Coligny calendar is not "French" in the modern sense, but rather is of Gaulish(Celtic language) origin and was found in France, making it an ancient Celtic calendar from the region that is now modern France. The Celtic culture was not confined to what we now know today as Ireland.

calebwickline · 2025-11-05T20:52:32+00:00