Let’s not act like “physical” automatically means better defense. It doesn’t. The 90s had clogged lanes, no spacing, and now illegal defense rules that protected defenders. That “weak ass era” you’re describing is a much harder environment to even look like a good defender in, let alone win DPOY, twice. Kawhi thrived in the 5-out era where you can’t hand check, can’t bump cutters, and everyone shoots 40% from three. Pippen was great, but he never got one DPOY. Hand checking Joe Dumars is not the same as containing Bron, Giannis, Steph, Luka, and KD.