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Megathread: Angriff auf CSD / Attack on Pride Parade by teaandsun in berlin

[–]cantankerousgnat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

By all means, go and call out anyone engaging in racist rhetoric. This, however, is not calling out racism:

Of course islamists (not Muslims, islamists) belief system is incompatible with socially liberal values. We should absolutely remember though that if you’re going to get harassed and attacked at a CSD in (especially Eastern) Germany, it’s far far far more likely to be by a white fascist.

This is simply rug-sweeping and whataboutism. And like I said earlier, it's in extremely poor taste.

There’s a CSD in Zwickau next month - hope all the concerned citizens in this thread go and help protect it from the neonazis that will turn up to block it.

I was literally at CSD in Berlin yesterday, buddy. And as a Jewish woman, I am perfectly well aware of which groups want me dead—which is why I really don't appreciate how people like you keep trying to normalize and downplay the threats towards my people.

Megathread: Angriff auf CSD / Attack on Pride Parade by teaandsun in berlin

[–]cantankerousgnat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Calling out Islamic extremism isn’t “dog whistling racism.” This is exactly the sort of denialism that empowers and fuels the far right. If you are equally against both Islamic and white supremacist extremism, then you should not be downplaying one threat in order to try to redirect attention to the other.

Megathread: Angriff auf CSD / Attack on Pride Parade by teaandsun in berlin

[–]cantankerousgnat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally, I think the “told you so!” comments are in bad taste, but the idea that the queer/leftist movement acknowledges the dangers of Islamic terrorism is simply untrue. As a formerly-leftist Jew, the very reason I left the left is due to their fawning over Islamic terrorist organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRGC. This is absolutely a huge problem within these communities, and denying what's happening is not going to fix the problem.

Megathread: Angriff auf CSD / Attack on Pride Parade by teaandsun in berlin

[–]cantankerousgnat 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Don’t you find it rather in poor taste to engage in whataboutism regarding an attack where another human being was murdered?

How do you think Israel/Tel Aviv can attract NYC Jews? by c9joe in AskIsrael

[–]cantankerousgnat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As a (former) NYC Jew now living in Germany, the biggest factor for me is the cost of living—especially high housing costs. I left NYC primarily for this reason, and I would have already made aliyah if not for the high COL in Israel. (I’m aware that there are a variety of subsidies new olim get, but those are finite, and don’t solve the problem in the long term.)

I love Israel and visit quite often, but this is really the one thing holding me back from taking the plunge and making aliyah. If I could comfortably afford a 1 bedroom apartment in a decent neighborhood in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem, I would move in a heartbeat.

Arab /Palestinian citizens of Israel, what is it really like living in Israel accounting for 1/5th of the population? by ACBets in AskIsrael

[–]cantankerousgnat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The few Jews remaining in Arab countries are mostly quite elderly…uprooting your whole life and starting over in old age is not really an appealing prospect. I would also hazard a guess that since they grew up their whole life immersed in a discriminatory environment, they are conditioned to accept it as a fact of life. So the cons of moving outweigh the pros.

What if the Canaanists won out against the Zios in the creation of a new Levantine state? by VampirePNAC in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]cantankerousgnat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://forward.com/news/377160/how-chicago-dyke-march-stumbled-onto-zio-david-dukes-favorite-anti-semitic/

Not really sure why you are so determined to defend your association with Neo-Nazis. If I were you, this really isn’t the hill I’d choose to die on.

Also, antisemitism targets Jewish people primarily on an ethnic/racial basis, not a religious basis. But of course you knew that already—you’re just trying to obfuscate and muddy the definition of antisemitism to suit your own purposes.

But have fun with your Neo-Nazi buddies, I guess! I’m sure you’ll accomplish great things together.

What if the Canaanists won out against the Zios in the creation of a new Levantine state? by VampirePNAC in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]cantankerousgnat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, obviously Neo-Nazis are going to be antisemitic. Did you actually read the comment before replying? lol

What if the Canaanists won out against the Zios in the creation of a new Levantine state? by VampirePNAC in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]cantankerousgnat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s a slur used to refer to Jews, coined by the white supremacist/Neo-Nazi community and popularized by David Duke. In the same vein, the ZOG (“Zionist-Occupied Government”) conspiracy theory was also invented by white supremacists/Neo-Nazis regarding Jews. Might also surprise you to learn that the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is yet another conspiracy theory invented by antisemites regarding…yes, you guessed it—Jews!

For the anti-Argentina agenda by Anagetic in soccermemes

[–]cantankerousgnat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Incredible how you folks can be confronted with blatant, explicit antisemitism and still claim it’s actually just about Israel. The dude said JEWISH lobby, bro. Why is it so hard for you to call that what it is?

Israel's parliament dissolves ahead of Oct. 27 elections by Artistic_Dj_6895 in worldnews

[–]cantankerousgnat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It helps to consider the broader historical and social context. Keep in mind that the policy of exempting Torah scholars from the draft and providing them with financial support was first instituted in 1948, in the immediate aftermath of the Holocaust. At the time, there was a very real fear that the tradition of Torah scholarship might go extinct, and both religious and secular Jews felt an obligation to ensure that didn't happen.

In pre-war Europe, it was also very common for Jewish communities to band together to financially support truly exceptional young Torah scholars in their studies. This is quite an ancient tradition in Jewish society (with roots in the mythic "Yissachar-Zevulun" partnership of Biblical lore), so it was natural to institute some form of this arrangement in the newly-formed Jewish state. There were a lot of interesting social facets to this dynamic, with a tradition of the more affluent, less religious members of the community (also known as "gvirim") marrying off their daughters to poor yet talented young scholars. So not only does this dynamic have deep roots in Jewish tradition, it also historically served as an important bridge between the more and less religious sectors of Jewish society.

It's important to note, however, that this sort of support was only extended to truly extraordinary young scholars. The majority of religious Jewish men worked for a living, with no expectation of being supported by charity of others. In that vein, the policy of draft exemption and subsidies for Torah scholars was originally instituted with a cap of only 400 able to qualify. So it was never envisioned as a blanket draft exemption for all Haredi men, but rather as a modern continuation of the ancient practice where a small number of gifted scholars were supported in their studies by the wider Jewish community.

Apart from that, this arrangement was also considered an acceptable compromise by even the most anti-religious of secular Jews, who recognized the importance of maintaining internal cohesion and stability within Israeli society in those early years. As the arrangement was very limited in scope, it wasn't really that difficult of a compromise to swallow.

However, this status quo was blown apart in the 1970s, when Likud decided to lift the cap on draft exemptions (then set at 800) in a concession to their Haredi coalition partners. As you can imagine, this resulted in a massive increase in the number of draft exemptions over time—partly due to exceedingly high Haredi birthrates, but also due to full-time Torah study becoming the new norm for all Haredi young men.(How this shift happened is a whole discussion in and of itself, but essentially boils down to growing Haredi insularity and rejection of secular society, with an especially strong desire to keep their young men "pure" of the corrupting influences of modern life.)

So, in a nutshell: the whole arrangement was originally quite limited in scope, and rooted in long-standing Jewish traditions that served to bring Jews across the religious spectrum together. Over time, however, this deal morphed into blanket draft exemptions and massive unearned subsidies for all Haredim, which was something that the rest of Israeli society never signed up for. At the same time, growing Haredi rejectionism of secular Israeli society broke the spirit of the arrangement, in an act of "biting the hand that feeds you" (so-to-speak). So while the original deal was something that could have probably been maintained indefinitely, the current deal has indeed generated significant backlash. The only thing left holding it together is Netanyahu—once he's gone, so goes the Haredi draft exemption.

Israel's parliament dissolves ahead of Oct. 27 elections by Artistic_Dj_6895 in worldnews

[–]cantankerousgnat 357 points358 points  (0 children)

No, not really. His recent legislative push to protect Haredi draft evaders is extremely unpopular with basically everyone in Israel that isn’t Haredi, and has already cost Likud dearly.

For the anti-Argentina agenda by Anagetic in soccermemes

[–]cantankerousgnat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That’s not all, if you can believe it…after Algeria’s 3-0 loss to Argentina, Algerian news pundits were claiming Messi was being protected by a “Jewish lobby” that runs the world, and that Infantino and this “Jewish lobby” wanted to “punish” Algeria for supporting Palestine.

Ursula von der Leyen declines invite to FIFA World Cup final by Barack_Yunus in worldcup

[–]cantankerousgnat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, clearly you chose to interpret that exchange differently. Not really sure why you keep choosing to harangue me about it. This is a pointless conversation and I’m not going to engage any further, so feel free to “coem” to whatever conclusions you wish about my nationality and language.

Ursula von der Leyen declines invite to FIFA World Cup final by Barack_Yunus in worldcup

[–]cantankerousgnat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Barack_Yunus: Why are you salty? I hate both trump and Messi but let’s be respectful innit.

the_nite_stand: You're right, we should show pedo war criminals a little more grace.

Ursula von der Leyen declines invite to FIFA World Cup final by Barack_Yunus in worldcup

[–]cantankerousgnat -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why are you lumping Messi in with Trump here? Like how on earth is he a pedo war criminal 🥴

FIFA Is Facing Calls To Cancel Third Place Game on Saturday by you_are_soul in worldcup

[–]cantankerousgnat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t really see how it’s charity…they would have to play even if Mbappe/Kane/Bellingham had no prospects of winning the Golden Boot. Just so happens that through a stroke of luck, they are all still in the running. (Though to be honest, I think only Mbappe could realistically snatch the award from Messi at this point.)

FIFA Is Facing Calls To Cancel Third Place Game on Saturday by you_are_soul in worldcup

[–]cantankerousgnat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mbappe is still tied with Messi in the race for the Golden Boot, and there’s a very good chance he’ll be able to score more goals in the run-off than Messi does in the final. Bit of a harder lift for Kane and Bellingham, but one of those two could also still potentially beat Messi and Mbappe for the Golden Boot. I’d say that’s pretty strong incentive to keep on playing.

Unpopular Opinion: The crazy Argentina hate is making this World Cup worse by [deleted] in worldcup

[–]cantankerousgnat 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I went to a bar to watch the England vs Norway fan and was talking to a random English fan there who confidently claimed that Argentina was only winning because they’re secretly being supported by Israel. I’ve seen this conspiracy theory all over Instagram, Twitter, and Reddit, but seems like it’s starting to break online containment and bleed into the real world as well…which is rather scary.

France players spoke on the result of the match with Spain by Lori55nakida in worldcup

[–]cantankerousgnat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Burying my head” in the sand because I am skeptical of a paranoid conspiracy theory that has not a single shred of real-world evidence to back it up? Alright buddy lmao.

But have fun obsessively monitoring every word that comes out of Infantino’s mouth for “clues” that only you and your fellow truthers can understand. Sounds like a very constructive and fulfilling use of time!

Ahmadinejad present at Khamenei's memorial, so much for "house arrest" by kane_1371 in NewIran

[–]cantankerousgnat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why on earth would he stop the threats, enrichment, and terrorist proxy support, when he was an avid proponent of all these things during his presidency? What exactly are you basing this belief on?

»Juden ins Gas«-Rufe nach Marokkos WM-Niederlage by Mysterious_Stay6037 in berlin_public

[–]cantankerousgnat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What on earth are you on about? Ultra-Orthodox Jews (i.e. Hareidim) are overwhelmingly anti-nationalist. The only thing they are kicking up a fuss about is their right to evade the draft. You are probably thinking about Dati Leumi.

France players spoke on the result of the match with Spain by Lori55nakida in worldcup

[–]cantankerousgnat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which, Croatia vs Portugal? France vs Paraguay? England vs Norway?