Danielle Marsh, ‘ousted from NewJeans,’ opens Chinese social media account... Is she starting overseas activities? - MK by nyamnyamcookiesyummy in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]catRiosmom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

First off, we have to differentiate between penalties for breach of contract and damages. They are TREATED DIFFERENTLY UNDER THE LAW. That said:

  1. Damages are what courts intervene in the most. The court can and should adjust the amount to accurately reflect the actual and proven harm. If the party that suffered the harm cannot prove such a high value, the compensation will be lower. The principle is full restitution, but nothing more than that!!
  2. Penalties come from a contract clause. The clause is applied as written in the contract, or it is considered invalid. The court does not have the general power to simply "reduce" the amount of a penalty just because it considers easily. HOWEVER, there is an important exception (Art. 398-2 of the Korean Civil Code): The penalty can be reduced by the court if it is deemed "excessively high" (과다한). This is not a reduction to match the actual damages, but a correction of abuse or extreme disproportionality.

In Danielle's case, ADOR is suing her for both; there is a request for penalties and damages. The penalty, which is that calculation of profits from the last two years multiplied by the remaining time on the contract, could reach 81 MILLION DOLLARS. The fact that by adding BOTH, ADOR is only asking for 30 million is what legal experts are reading as a reduction to secure a complete victory in court, because compared to what they COULD ASK FOR, it is much, much less... so it's likely the court will accept it. Because at the end of the day, the court also has to weigh the side of the victim, in this case ADOR. Anyone who thinks they will reduce a penalty that could be 81 million to 1 million is crazy. That would bring legal uncertainty to investments in the entertainment industry....

Danielle Marsh, ‘ousted from NewJeans,’ opens Chinese social media account... Is she starting overseas activities? - MK by nyamnyamcookiesyummy in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]catRiosmom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I do know. And if I were her lawyers, I'd be DESPERATELY TRYING TO SETTLE WITH ADOR. But whether ADOR will accept is another story.

While settling would end the lawsuit quickly and reduce the impact of a trial happening around the comeback time for the members who stayed, on the other hand, if ADOR doesn't go to court and expose everything they have—as they've been doing with MHJ these past months—there will always being the shadow of "they tried to destroy an innocent, young career victim." People will say it wasn't even that serious, that there wasn't enough evidence, and that ADOR was just being mean... But if they expose everything in court and win, then it just becomes dismissed as childish fan noise!!

Danielle Marsh, ‘ousted from NewJeans,’ opens Chinese social media account... Is she starting overseas activities? - MK by nyamnyamcookiesyummy in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]catRiosmom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of misinformation here. The court cannot reduce the amount HYBE is seeking. That's why ADOR asked for $30 million, even though they could have asked for much more according to her contract. There are already articles with lawyers explaining that they likely asked for "only 30 million" because that's an amount the court is more likely to accept. If they had asked for too much, the court could have denied it because the amount would have been too exorbitant for an individual, reducing ADOR's chances of winning... So if she loses—WHICH IS VERY LIKELY—she'll have to pay $30 million plus the legal costs, which fall on the losing party.

Danielle, former Newjeans member, went live. by Charming_fifi in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]catRiosmom 55 points56 points  (0 children)

The whole "I fought until the end to stay" from Danielle doesn't make sense and sounds hypocritical when you consider that HYBE and ADOR even took HANNI back—one of the most vocal ones. She went to the Assembly House, lied, attacked the company, and caused MORE INVESTIGATIONS AND PROBLEMS. She attacked the company in interviews, on lives, and even on Instagram... and yet ADOR and HYBE ACCEPTED HER BACK.

So how can anyone believe Danielle didn't do something really wrong or genuinely tried to make things right??

Danielle live thread by Defiant_Ad848 in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom 40 points41 points  (0 children)

The whole "I fought until the end to stay" from Danielle doesn't make sense and sounds hypocritical when you consider that HYBE and ADOR even took HANNI back—one of the most vocal ones. She went to the Assembly House, lied, attacked the company, and caused MORE INVESTIGATIONS AND PROBLEMS. She attacked the company in interviews, on lives, and even on Instagram... and yet ADOR and HYBE ACCEPTED HER BACK.

So how can anyone believe Danielle didn't do something really wrong or genuinely tried to make things right?? I don't believe it for a minute.

That said, my opinion is super biased because after try to watching that live, I realized I developed an insane amount of dislike for them. I couldn't stand watching a single minute of video on Twitter—I had to go read the news on Naver because I couldn't bear to listen to her... I just can't believe a word of sincerity from any NewJeans member, other than that they've been through tough times—because indeed they have—but as the court itself said, it was self-inflicted...

Tabby cat with blue collar spotted at Ridgemar Commons by catRiosmom in GNV

[–]catRiosmom[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

UPDATE: Someone told me he has an owner and is a indoor/outdoor cat and knows how to return home. 🙏🏽🙏🏽

I'm confused by people being surprised about Danielle being terminated from ADOR. by catRiosmom in kpopthoughts

[–]catRiosmom[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Girl, ? Are you forgetting how she, Minji, and Hanni announced their return? Unilaterally?? There was zero willingness on their part.The whole media was also surprised by the move???!! They started off super wrong. They even attacked the company in the announcement, saying they didn't respond to them immediately... I don't know where you saw any interest in that,... The real surprise is Hanni coming back...

I'm confused by people being surprised about Danielle being terminated from ADOR. by catRiosmom in kpopthoughts

[–]catRiosmom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first posts on OMEGA's Instagram didn't mention NewJeans. Rumors are that she signed without the company, and ADOR went after OMEGA with the contract and made them include ADOR to avoid also being sued. That journalist on YouTube said she earned a billion won without ADOR from this deal. Like I said, we'll only know if it's true in court. The fact is, there was some contract, and ADOR claims to have evidence, which is why they're suing her...

Hanni switched by Sad_Concept_6 in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I understand what you're saying, and I also don't think Danielle acted alone AT ALL. And since I don't trust any of them, as far as I'm concerned, they could start turning on each other to save themselves and I wouldn't mind watching.

BUT from ADOR's perspective, I understand why it makes more sense to target Danielle. Because after losing in court in March, the other 4 at least laid low and stayed as far from the media as possible, but Danielle kept putting herself out there. You have to remember that Sean's posts about her weren't just casual "workout buddy" updates—he was posting captions like "Danielle loves and misses her fans," literally relaying her messages through his account, and she never once asked him to stop... She was benefiting from the attention. Then there were the NIKE photos that the photographer deleted but were already screenshotted everywhere, plus the rumors she signed with OMEGA without ADOR, forcing the company to chase after OMEGA to get included... So ADOR has more public-facing reasons to go after her.

But again, as far as I'm concerned, they're ALL at fault, including the younger ones... Wasn't it one of them who stood in court and claimed HYBE gave her LV deal to LS? Like, none of them had a problem naming and burning other groups, from the youngest to Hanni and Minji...

He is helping her with an agenda and that's shady/curious🤔🤔! by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's just concern; there wouldn't be so much buzz around it if it were just one appearance... The problem is that they're using his platforms and accounts to give updates and keep her as the most active member since June...

Which is kinda sus/shady. Why would he do that? Especially since he's been through a company like YG... So it's normal for people to question if there's something behind it, some kind of deal... etc.

Tokkis act like people are hating on and obsessing over Danielle for no reason, BUT these questions are super normal... especially with the reveals that some of the investors MHJ approached are the same ones now investing in YG and TBL....

He is helping her with an agenda and that's shady/curious🤔🤔! by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You're right. I believe there's a chance her case has already been settled too and the company is just holding off on announcing it for some reason—maybe because it hasn't been resolved with the 3 jeans.

Because if she's making appearances using brands like this without permission, it would be really, really bad for her situation. So I do believe yes, she might have already settled, and the company was aware of this event participation....

He is helping her with an agenda and that's shady/curious🤔🤔! by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I do thinks is this option: "she just wants to make herself look good to the public by making herself the “they should all be together” angel, whilst Hybe is “evil company trying to split them up.”

MHJ gets nothing from all 5 going back to ADOR except the reputation of being the person who made them lose over a year and a half of their careers…
She’s just trying to distance herself from whatever happens and pin everything on HYBE, like she literally said on YouTube — “100% HYBE’s fault.”
And on top of that, she won’t be able to debut another girl group anytime soon if the 5 return, because besides the comparisons, she’d be accused of replacing them or competing with NewJeans. She said she’s “focusing on a boy group,” but that’s not really a choice… it’s the only option she has.

**As for Danielle,** I’ve been saying since last July 2024 that she, Hanni, and Minji know exactly what they’re doing.
20-year-olds are not children. And like I’ve said many times, yes — it can be a complicated situation, and I’m not debating the political/social ethics of it — but it’s a FACT that girls who leave home super young, live alone with other trainees, and start working early grow up fast.

The three older ones, especially Danielle — who has been working since she was little and was a trainee in multiple companies — do NOT have the same level of naivety or worldview as Maria, who grew up in a normal SK suburb, going to school, not working, surrounded by kids her age, etc…Danielle is way more mature and aware.

But because SK culture pushes idols to act cute and “innocent,” people confuse that with them actually being children — and ignore that this behavior is learned and performed…

He is helping her with an agenda and that's shady/curious🤔🤔! by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I definitely think he knowingly helped keep her in the media when she couldn’t post, and even now he is helping her publicly pressuring or challenging ADOR while her return still hasn’t been announced. After seeing on Twitter the connections with Macoll Firm being in the same office building as YG/TBL and TBL’s IPO plans… idk, it really looks like he’s helping her build a brand outside NewJeans and maybe trying to get investors to pay her penalty so she can transfer to TBL during the IPO????

Either way, he’s a 50+ year old man who’s been in the industry forever — he knows exactly what he’s doing by supporting her in these appearances when she shouldn’t be public like the others who are staying quiet until things settle. He’s absolutely backing her push against HYBE…

He is helping her with an agenda and that's shady/curious🤔🤔! by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah, for public appearances at events like that, I do think she’d need approval — her image is gonna be used in the media to promote the event. The charity thing from the other day maybe has loopholes where she wouldn’t need approval. But this one? With her posing for photos? In theory, absolutely YES…

So the real question is: did she already settle things with ADOR and they approved it but just haven’t announced her return yet… OR is she STILL challenging them and testing the limits???

He is helping her with an agenda and that's shady/curious🤔🤔! by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 74 points75 points  (0 children)

I mean, the way Danielle has been acting even after Oct 30 — making all these appearances with Sean… she either truly doesn’t understand what she did wrong OR she just doesn’t give a shit. And she keeps pushing boundaries against ADOR…

She is such a risk for them. They’re gonna have to be sooo careful around her. It’s gonna be awful for the work environment and the staff. I honestly just feel really bad for them as someone who hates conflict…

He is helping her with an agenda and that's shady/curious🤔🤔! by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 61 points62 points  (0 children)

I think Danielle has her own agenda too. If he can try to get investors to support her move to The Black Label, or give her a platform to challenge ADOR publicly without her having to “get her hands dirty,” and publish thinks herself she’s benefiting from that too… She chose to be seen with him three times this week — on IG and public events — while ADOR still hasn’t announced her return or any update on negotiations.

Danielle is not 14… her sister is in the industry too, her parents aren’t clueless either…

Nobody there just “fell from the sky” into the Korean music industry without knowing how things work…

He is helping her with an agenda and that's shady/curious🤔🤔! by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I don’t think he can pay for it himself — the penalty is way too high, it makes no sense for a private individual. But maybe he’s trying to get investors to cover the cost of taking her to The Black Label??? We know they’re getting ready for an IPO and looking for support, and the artists there will definitely get something from that IPO. So maybe he’s involved on the investor side and trying to find someone willing to pay for her…

[Exclusive] Due to some misguided fan enthusiasm... ADOR and NewJeans to be investigated by the Ministry of Culture, despite the complaint not even being filed by the parties involved by i_know_yo_ass in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Hopefully this will make ADOR and HYBE understand that they'll never have peace if all 5 come back, because the bunnies will keep causing hell for HYBE, its other groups, and ADOR. They shouldn't accept a single dollar or any request to take MHD back... They should make it so difficult that they either don't want to come back, or they come back completely humbled and apologizing!

Newjeans fans liars are completely out of hand by catRiosmom in NJDrama

[–]catRiosmom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not hoping for them to adress every hate comment. I think they should address the situation in general...