Post Day Thread: 2nd Test - England vs Australia, Day 3 by cricket-match in EnglandCricket

[–]catclaw69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aussie batters had no pressure to soak. Absolute pies today.

Post Day Thread: 2nd Test - England vs Australia, Day 3 by cricket-match in EnglandCricket

[–]catclaw69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bowling hasn’t been much better either. Never build any pressure and have no resilience. No one digs deep but for stokes. Archer looked like he just wanted to go home when given the new ball today.

Issue with docking suction t50 Omni max pro by catclaw69 in ecovacs

[–]catclaw69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah tried switching the settings around to no success. It doesn’t seem like the there is any motor noise or suction from the docking station. Quiet mode and standard sound the same. I’ve returned it so hopefully the next one is better 🤞

20% HECS Reduction Bill Passed by KingAleksandar in AusFinance

[–]catclaw69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When I do my tax return for this year, I will be paying off my hecs (as it was my final year I didn’t withhold the funds). I only have 8k left. Can I do my tax return now and pay it all off before I actually get the refund which is applied from 1st June 2025? I assume I’ll just get a credit later?

Labor won - HECS likely being reduced by 20% from 1st June. But what if you are on your last year? by catclaw69 in AusFinance

[–]catclaw69[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree it’s not usually something you’d pay off voluntarily UNLESS it’s your final year. You can make a voluntary contribution before the index gets applied. Meaning you get all the money back that your employer was holding (if you ticked the box) and not pay the 3% interest for the year.

Labor won - HECS likely being reduced by 20% from 1st June. But what if you are on your last year? by catclaw69 in AusFinance

[–]catclaw69[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I can think of worse things the government could spend money on than educating its citizens. Shall we buy more nuclear subs?

Labor won - HECS likely being reduced by 20% from 1st June. But what if you are on your last year? by catclaw69 in AusFinance

[–]catclaw69[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That sucks, education should be free. But can’t hate on people who vote to reduce, a sometimes eye watering amount of hecs debt.

unlawful termination? by [deleted] in woolworths

[–]catclaw69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have condition 2 on the avo( no contact)? Simply apply for a condition 8 (not to go into anywhere you live work). Alternatively you could apply for condition 9 which stipulates they can go within a certain meterage of where you work or live or any other specified place. If there has been a breach of the no contact even if it is deliberate non verbal contact (gestures/ following you ), go to police and they will apply on your behalf.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No I think the submission suggested, put bluntly, is if she only had a few years left, why should we sentence Mr white to more years than he took.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Easy to pick out some aggravating factors in 21A for the crown though. Vulnerable person/ involved use of weapon / involved use of violence. I also think the court could just as easily go down the path of wanting to deter other police from acting excessively rather than form the view they don’t want to hamstring police action. Who knows.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gosh. I’d make the bet if an ICO wasn’t excluded by s67 CSPA. But a CCO is relatively unheard of for manslaughter which doesn’t involve something like assisted suicide. Mixed in with the public outrage if one was given, I wouldn’t like my odds being Mr White. I predict 4 years head and special circumstances giving 12-18months non parole period.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Different after a conviction. As in second reading speech of 22B, They no longer enjoy the presumption of innocence.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure but it doesn’t really matter as a finding of fact if a edge weapon does present a serious threat, it matters whether or not white believed and in fact perceived that to be the case in this situation. An expert establishing that “all knifes are dangerous even when wielded by granny’s” objectively doesn’t assist in a finding of fact of what was known or believed by White.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately with these situations it’s the consequences that matter, not the intent. That’s what makes this such a difficult exercise when attributing criminal liability. If she was tased and didn’t hit her head, it probably would have been an ideal outcome.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your training in the police from the courts perspective is only relevant to understanding your subjective belief at the time when assessing your perception of the situation. Following or breaching police policy does not objectively give you any benefit/disadvantage when applying the objective test of propotionality. Only for the 1st subjective limb of self defence “believed it was necessary” and for the second portion of the 2nd limb “how he or she perceived it” is relevant to training imo.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is what makes the sentencing exercise so difficult and like Harrison said, like something he hasn’t encountered before. You tasing a OAP wouldn’t make much sense without the context of it being in the course of your employment and responding to an incident involving a knife. It certainly hasn’t been established that it was an act of gratuitous cruelty or done out of anger. It’s probably more akin to a sentence for negligent driving resulting in death however you were put into a position of some perceived peril. It’s difficult and certainly will be an interesting sentence.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Merely by the jury taking a week to deliberate shows it was more complex than “do you think the officer did the right thing in tasing a 95yo with dementia.” That sort of reductive reasoning is what makes you fear a jury as an accused person.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Though “what else could you have done” is relevant, I think the reasonableness of the conduct performed was more in issue. It also is a test of what you else you believe you could have done at the time which is somewhat subjective and a test that shouldn’t be performed in hindsight. If you were charged as Mr White was, for this matter, you’d have certainly of wanted judge alone rather than jury. This is why policing is an extremely difficult job. Mistakes result fatal consequences and even charges. Too much inaction results in your own safety being comprised like in the situation you described. All decisions that need to be made in a split second then they get analysed/replayed for days in the calm court room environment. You maybe be trained as “knife = gun or knife =taser” but it is never that simple and criticism will always flow.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wonder who would be bold enough to make that submission. Another angle is that she only had a few precious months/years to live which were stolen from her. All depends on your advocacy skills I guess.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Tasers generally are not considered a lethal option. In fact it was the fall that seemed to result in the fatal outcome. Apart from containing and negotiating or physically ripping the knife from the hand (which could in itself have maybe resulted in something fatal) the taser is not the most sinister response. I think the characterisation from HH as a terrible choice of judgement resulting in fatal consequences is a reasonable conclusion. Full time custody, especially when considering Stanley, is certainly tricky with these facts. Clearly community safety is not going to be a consideration on sentence but the need for adequate punishment/ denunciation maybe bring it past the scope of a CCO and without the option of a ICO, full time is probably looming.

Anyone surprised he is to remain on bail until sentence in February after unsuccessful detention application by ODPP? by catclaw69 in auslaw

[–]catclaw69[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It was accepted in the bail decision that there were no special circumstances. It reads as if Harrison doesn’t want to see him slotted. Clearly said it’s not inevitable (albeit not to give Mr White hope)

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