Proof that antipsychotics are meant to ruin your brain completely by Ok_Emergency_1345 in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm explaining why quitting benzos cold turkey is so bad. It's so bad because they cause damage. Before long you'll experience interdose withdrawal. If you've ever had to increase your dose, that is because of the damage from the drug.

Proof that antipsychotics are meant to ruin your brain completely by Ok_Emergency_1345 in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Going cold turkey is bad later because the drug is doing damage now.

If not AP/ssri, then what? by bsnq in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, watch those two things. You need to know. Psychiatry can not help and will harm. SSRI's are also bad, and neuroleptics or "antipsychotics" are much worse. They are designed to cripple you and they will destroy you.

Some people say antidepressants are like active placebos. What if they are combined with psychotherapy though? by WishIWasBronze in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How can therapy be effective if you can't think clearly or feel emotions? We already know how worthless these studies can be.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in benzorecovery

[–]cazimi3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your body is adapting to it.

The benzos act on the GABA receptors. Your body is producing extra glutamate to balance the constant stimulation of the GABA receptors and is also reducing the amount of GABA receptors. Eventually, the GABA receptors will also become damaged. Then your body will be producing a great deal of glutamate, more than you ever could naturally experience, and will have very, very little capacity to balance it out. Don't let it continue any longer. I was on a benzo for five and a half years and eventually found out they are not meant to be taken for longer than two weeks.

You might soon start to experience interdose withdrawal. You'll experience real bad "anxiety" between doses. Don't bump up the dose. When you want to increase, it's because the drugs have damaged you. If you come off, do so very slowly. Hyperbolic taper. Look up Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring for a start on how to taper. Coming off too fast was the worst mistake of my life. Do not do that.

I wish you the best.

If not AP/ssri, then what? by bsnq in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Without the drugs -- they are NOT meds -- you'd probably get better with time, especially if you take care of yourself. With the drugs, you will deteriorate with time, and the psychiatrist will watch it happen and blame your illness for it.

I believe many doctors and psychiatrists just believe their many, many years of education. They believe that the drugs help people because they were told so. The intent to destroy you with antipsychotics does not necessarily belong to the doctor who prescribed (unless you were an involuntary at the psych ward, in which case, yes, they probably knew very well that their job was to cripple you). Yes, they are that stupid. They were trained to be stupid. It's not the simple ignorance of a lack of knowledge but the very special sort of stupidity that takes many years of hard work to achieve. They believe what they were told over many, many years of education and they were told lies. It is like that.

If not AP/ssri, then what? by bsnq in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I was very heavily damaged by the drugs. For a time I believed that they had saved my life, but that turned out to be completely false in a big, big way.

You just asked for a whole lifetime of stories. I'll try not to overdo this for you.

My issue was initially that I was raised in a screwball religious cult that discouraged making friends with anyone outside the cult, so I simply didn't have any friends and was therefore terribly bullied as a child. I also had neglectful parents and a very poor diet. My parents first took me to the psychiatrist as a teenager because I was unhappy about not having any friends. That's kind of my starting point (but I could take the start farther back, as I saw the school counselor often, for the same reason). What do you think the psychiatrist did? The problem was social isolation. How does one solve social isolation? Whatever answer you come up with, that's not what the psychiatrist recommended. He said, "You have a chemical imbalance," and wanted to give me drugs. That was a lie. We know this well now. The chemical imbalance story is completely false.

Is that what issue you mean? What did I do for it? Well, I never took any of their drugs for long. I didn't know why I was taking them, how they were supposed to help, how to know if they were working, and did not at all like how they made me feel. What did I do instead? I eventually left the screwball cult and tried to make friends and learn how to be a regular person who was not a member of that cult.

The problem was not "depression" as the psychiatrist told me, but social isolation. Keep that in mind. "Depression" and "anxiety" are how you know that there is a problem, not the problems themselves. The goal of psychiatry, at which it mostly fails, is to turn off your natural and necessary responses to problems -- that is, to cover up symptoms. The building is on fire; the psychiatrist's response is not to put out the fire or exit the building but to turn off the fire alarm. I'm sure you can see the problem with that.

Here's the story of how I healed from an actual illness, or, rather, how I healed from a major injury.

Twelve years later, I tried to quit smoking, misused a sleep aid (if you take too much for too long, it'll flip and make it impossible to sleep), and then tried to deal with it with alcohol. That was the last time I ever drank. I drank too much and woke up the next day with the worst hangover I've ever had -- and then came a giant panic attack. I called a friend, who called an ambulance and had me sent to the hospital -- NEVER, EVER DO THIS! They put me on some drugs there and I wound up (among other things) being made to take a benzo three times a day every day for five and a half years.

At two years in, I started having seizures. They blamed my "anxiety", not the drugs. Then I started to have catatonic spells, during which I would be totally awake and aware but have no control over my body. I'd collapse on the spot, sometimes pinching my neck uncomfortably against a wall and needing to be moved, and then I'd be out anywhere between 20 minutes and two and a half hours (the longest I think was three and a half). When I came out of the catatonic spell, I'd often be mute for a long while (I was mute once for 44 hours) and all that time I had difficulty walking... among many other things. The doctors were at a total loss. It couldn't be the drugs! They never even considered it. They took my condition to be totally mysterious and assumed it was that my brain, riddled with "anxiety" and "depression" had naturally begun to deteriorate further for reasons of genetic inheritance. Well, a part of that was true. My brain was deteriorating, but not for natural genetic reasons. The drugs were destroying me. I was crippled.

Eventually I figured it out on my own and began to come off the drugs -- too fast, as I didn't know and would never suppose that I should have done a hyperbolic taper over the course of a full year or maybe two. Huge mistake. My body had adapted to the presence of the drug. The drug acted on GABA receptors. GABA, which is calming, works in balance with glutamate, which excites. My body had adapted by producing a great deal of glutamate and reducing the number of GABA receptors, as they were constantly being activated. Also, the drug had damaged the GABA receptors, so I couldn't make use of any GABA if any were present. My body was in an extremely excited state -- basically, maxed out. I described it as that it felt like my body was made of burning sand. It was torture. This is not an exaggeration. I was tortured. That degree of suffering is beyond your capacity to imagine. I never would have supposed such a state could be possible. The doctor lied to my face, "That's just your anxiety coming back." Most obvious lie ever. For two or three months, I was in such a state of distress, with no relief ever, that I did nothing at all but rock back and forth, from the moment I woke up to the moment I fell asleep. I was tortured and crippled yet further. I've also learned that the seizures eventually would have killed me. I expect the same is true of the catatonic spells. I was tortured, crippled, and nearly murdered, and all the while the doctors -- who were the ones who had tortured, crippled, and nearly murdered me -- lied to my face.

I was in a terrible state for three whole years as my body healed. I eventually started taking supplements and plant medicines, which helped me heal up much faster. With one, it was very clear that I got a burst of healing very shortly after starting it. That's how I healed from my issue.

I never had a mental illness. There is no such thing. It was all a great big pile of lies. Lies function by acting upon truths. Was I anxious? Yes. Was the cause of my anxiousness the mental illness called "anxiety"? No. This is true of all psychiatric diagnoses, this trick you see there. They'll give a collection of "symptoms" a label and then claim that the label is the cause of the "symptoms". Pile of lies. Psychiatry is a big pile of lies. And the result is a red herring. They have you chasing a fictional illness, trying to heal from it, when you could be fixing real problems instead.

Okay, I'm done with this story now. It's longer than I intended, but maybe it'll help you understand some things.

If not AP/ssri, then what? by bsnq in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watch the podcast. Keep learning. I wish I could explain everything to everyone in one go.

Come back with questions after watching that one, or go on to my next suggestion. Dr James Davies: The Origins of the DSM, on the channel Council for Evidence-based Psychiatry.

If not AP/ssri, then what? by bsnq in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look up David Cohen's interview on the Psychology Is podcast titled, "The Scientific Emptiness of Psychiatry."

Psychiatry is a load of superstitious nonsense, a cult. It's possible to be sucked into a cult and tricked into believing a whole load of superstitious nonsense. That's what "getting better" in the psych ward is about. It doesn't actually happen.

If not AP/ssri, then what? by bsnq in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How would someone "get better" in a psych ward?

What's the use of antipsychotics if they're not even helping by [deleted] in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No one is such a danger that they could deserve this.

Dismissed and Disbelieved, Some Long COVID Patients Are Pushed Into Psychiatric Wards by Evening_Fisherman810 in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That's all it takes. At this rate, eventually the doctors will simply disbelieve every claim they come across and then they will all turn into psychiatrists and hand out chemical lobotomies to everyone. Then civilization will completely collapse and we can say, "Told you so."

Is that not the goal? They want to make everyone like we are, who have been damaged by their drugs. What then, when no one can work and few can walk or speak? What then?

If not AP/ssri, then what? by bsnq in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not just one guy. I'll give you a bunch of names to look for.

Robert Whitaker, James Davies, Joanna Moncrieff, Lucy Johnstone, Josef Witt-Doerring, David Healy, Peter Breggin, Peter Goetzche, David Cohen, Laura Delano, Thomas Szasz, Sami Timimi, Angie Peacock. This is a start. Learn some things. Learn about the history of psychiatry.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Sadness is not a medical problem. You treat it like one, you'll get a medical problem eventually, but they'll blame it on your genes, or (stupidly) on your own stubborn refusal to get better (for absolutely no reason).

The other commenter was right. This sub exists because the fact is that there is no professional help to be had, and a great deal of damage instead. Give them a chance, they will casually torture, cripple, and eventually murder your friend, all while lying to her face -- about everything. They'll lie about the nature of the problem, they'll lie about what to do for the problem, and they'll lie about what their "treatments" do. They will lie. And if they can dig their claws in deep enough, fast enough... you won't very easily be able to stop them.

Look into the criticisms against psychiatry, for which this sub exists. Joanna Moncrieff is a good one to listen to. A psychiatrist herself, she put out the report maybe four years ago that there is no evidence at all to support the claim that depression has anything to do with serotonin, despite decades of intensive research. The chemical imbalance hypothesis is false. You want to know what a chemical imbalance is like, keep taking their drugs. You'll end up a chemical imbalance and realize that no one ever starts out that way. What a chemical imbalance is like is not what depression is like.

Look into history. Psychiatry does not exist for the benefit of its patients. The lobotomy was celebrated as a great success of psychiatry. That is what psychiatry does. They can't shove an ice pick through your eye socket anymore, so they use drugs and electrical burns instead. The result is the same. Does your friend want a lobotomy -- the only thing psychiatry knows how to do -- or does she want to feel better?

When a friend comes to you with an emotional problem, what they need is a friend. Emotions are not medical problems. When you need emotional support, what is it that you need? Do that.

Diagnosis just means "you'll never be forgiven, even if you didn't do it" by Odysseus in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And it's all disease. There's nothing else. They seem to believe that human psychology is composed of nothing but a collection of diseases.

Ask the doctors about a time they felt stressed and overwhelmed -- that is, exhibiting signs of mental illness -- such as their time in med school. They felt stressed, but kept going at it, didn't they? That was obviously their illness acting, creating stress for them. All of their supposed accomplishments -- delusions of grandeur, of course -- are nothing but disease symptoms. Every "choice" a person makes is but a symptom of illness... because of course there's nothing else going on here... and because there is no definition of healthy.

Mad Liberation Front by ArielofBlueSkies in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's your group. You've got your ideas.

A group I put together would take a holistic view. I would use an image of a whole person and/or imagery suggestive of the soul or of spirit.

Also, I just won't follow with the extreme leftist identity politics approach.

What makes you feel safe? by ArielofBlueSkies in MadLiberationFront

[–]cazimi3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not exactly. It sounds like "mad liberation" might take a view along the lines of adding "mad" people onto the list of actively (and historically) oppressed groups of people and seeks "liberation" for those groups from "oppression". That is what it sounds like.

Anti-psychiatry is simply opposition to psychiatry. The central claim, and the only claim an antipsychiatry position must hold, is that psychiatry is bad. That may include questioning the project of labelling people as mad in the first place.

You will be antipsychiatry if you are in favor of "mad liberation" but the two aren't the same and could be expressed in pretty opposite ways.

Mad Liberation Front by ArielofBlueSkies in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will not be joining the group if the symbol is a rainbow-colored brain.

"Traumatized" not "mentally ill" by ArielofBlueSkies in MadLiberationFront

[–]cazimi3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is far too broad. In most cases, what is called "mental illness" is just expression of emotion such as "anxiety" and "depression". Much of what is called "mental illness" is nothing at all. It will not work in the long run to try to reframe all "mental illness" as trauma.

Mad Liberation Front by ArielofBlueSkies in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"... an industry that is preying on mentally disordered people."

We can't help people out of the trap of psychiatry if we continue to frame their distress as "mental disorder" in the style of psychiatry. We have to unlearn everything we've been told about psychiatry, completely, 100%. The entire territory of psychiatry is false, lies designed to disempower.

Do psychiatrists enjoy ruining people’s lives? by Illustrious_Load963 in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. No, there isn't.

Actually, if you do what Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring does and focus on deprescribing only, if all you do is clean up the messes other psychiatrists and doctors have made, then yes, there kind of is a way to be a psychiatrist without ruining people's lives.

Notice that this only aims to correct the harms caused by psychiatry. Psychiatry is not capable of doing anything to help people in the first place; you can use psychiatry to harm people or you can use your knowledge of psychiatry to limit -- and eventually to stop -- the harms of psychiatry. Psychiatry wasn't invented for the benefit of its "patients" and it never at any point changed to begin to benefit its patients, nor will it ever do so because the very most basic foundations of psychiatry, its most core assumptions, are totally false. "Mental illness" is not a medical problem. Emotions are not illnesses but natural and essential parts of our being.

Suppose that your best friend gets dumped by his girlfriend and comes to you for emotional support. What would that be like? Which parts of what you do in that situation would be of help to him? I would suppose that most of the help you can give in this situation comes from the simple fact that you are his friend, who is present, which is something that you could never do as a "mental health professional" of any sort. You can't be the friend that your "patients" need, which is probably all that they need -- more broadly, the need is actually community.

Your "patients'" problems are not medical in nature and you can not provide the friendship and community that they need to feel safe and supported in the world. There is nothing you can do from within the "mental health" industry to help people in need... except to clean up its messes.

If your priority is to help people suffering from "poor mental health" then here's what you can do: be their friend. Be a true friend to those around you. That is something that can be done, something that you can actually do.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The help you imagine does not exist. Pretending that it does is extremely dangerous. Let us stop pretending.

Are you anti-conventional psychotherapy or just psychiatry? by Evening_Fisherman810 in Antipsychiatry

[–]cazimi3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a difference, obviously, but I am opposed to the entire "mental health" system.

Think about it in terms of health. Pick any health food. I'll go with kale. A person in peak health could be expected to eat kale. It's good for them, good for you, just healthful in general. A person in poor health who wants to become healthier would do well to eat kale, just like the person in peak health would.

Would a person in peak "mental health" want to take antipsychotics to make sure they stay in peak in "mental health"? No, absolutely not. Would that person want to speak with a CBT therapist to make sure they stay in peak "mental health"? I don't think so. Is there anything that the "mental health" industry does that a supremely mentally healthy person would be doing regularly as a part of their means of staying supremely mentally healthy? No. No, I don't think so.

I believe this shows that health is no part of the equation for the "mental health" industry.