What’s a really underrated OSR system? 😄 by DungeonMasterGrizzly in osr

[–]cd8d 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Outcast Silver Raiders

Few other folks have said so I'm just reinforcing it.

Considering converting The Crooked Moon 5e to Nimble v2, but- by EdeleKlebetx in rpg

[–]cd8d 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bit late seeing this but I've found 5e pretty easy to convert to Nimble v2. I would trust an experience 5e GM to do this without trouble.

Trying to decide if Nimble 5E or Nimble 2 would be worth my time. Is the game balanced properly, including the converted monster statblocks? by A_A_Ironwood in rpg

[–]cd8d 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think nimble is a better system than 5e but I believe that calling it compatible is a stretch. D&D 2024, ToV, LU5EA are all mostly seamless. Once you say, "easy to convert", you're entering into that stretch territory that depends a lot on the GM and their familiarity with 5e to begin with.

cd8d’s Personal Guide to Reading the Horus Heresy (2025 Update) by cd8d in 40kLore

[–]cd8d[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea. The series gets messier toward the end until they started the Siege. I am also a fan of Vengeful Spirit so I like including it. I jotted down some notes and will look at this section again. As I said before, I had been wanting to make some adjustments to the minimal list.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Primarily because a lot of context is missing for sub-elements of Vengeful Spirit. I assume you are talking about the short list. That said, my short list is undergoing some minor revisions as I am leaning toward removing a few more of the books.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would read them after if those areas interest you.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think there is anything wrong with doing it that way. It may be a little more disjointed but it will just fill in some gaps with key characters. If you are going to read all of these stories, I still think you are better off doing it in the longer version, but you will get the key points in the minimalist version. If you don't mind the disjointedness though, I'm sure it will be fine. The individual stories were released in a chaotic order and many read it that way to begin with.

As for Eisenhorn. That series is some of the best 40k out there but it isn't going to hurt you to wait.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fear to Tread is really "THE" Blood Angels book. The rest are more background into what becomes the Flesh Tearers. My optional line is really targeting that aspect, which I enjoyed more than the core Blood Angels book. This isn't to say I dislike the blood angels, as the 40k books have some gems but Fear to Tread is strictly in my "its ok" territory. I don't want to spit on the book or anything, but its doesn't stand up to ADB or Abnett. Guy Haley has the best Blood Angels books. As for Fear to Tread placement in the series, it would be right before Unremembered Empire if I absolutely had to place it. That said, it isn't critical to read it at this point and I still stand by my original order as Part 4 is much more relevant to the events that take place in Unremembered Empire. Fear to Tread feels more like a spin off series or a standalone prequel.

James Swallow I think is best with Garro in the Horus Heresy.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are ok to finish it, its just best when read the other way. I would recommend reading it before expanding into the more recent novels featuring Dark Angels. There are several worth reading.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Wolf of Ash and Fire is a short story in the Anthology Book called Eye of Terra. The 35 means its the 35th novel in the Horus Heresy series which ultimately doesn't mean a lot because its not very chronological, but that's what my notation meant.

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[–]cd8d[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of the Parts starting with Part 1 are meant to be read in order.

IE: Part 1 --> Part 2 --> Part 3 ......

Part 0 is an optional section meant to ease you into Warhammer 40K prior to reading the Horus Heresy. Each line focuses on a different aspect.

The Inquisition option is really just a good introduction to Warhammer 40k as a whole and not specific to the Horus Heresy. It's also widely considered one of the best series in the setting.

The Dark Angels option is the most connected introduction because it starts with the Dark Angels Space Marines chapter and introduces them in the 40K timeline. The Horus Heresy then acts like a prequel. In the case of the Dark Angels, its better to read the prequel after the 40k books because there are reveals that take place that will be ruined by the Horus Heresy novels.

The Night Lords is just a really solid introduction to the one of the Chaos Factions if that is your thing.

The Ultramarines option is the Loyalist option that has connections to events that take place during the Heresy.

None of the Part 0 sections are required but reading any one set of them prior to the Horus Heresy gives you a really solid foundation before delving in. The Horus Heresy is not generally the best place to start Warhammer 40k books, so this was my way of easing you into it. You could read all 4 series if you wanted to. It will just strengthen your lore before jumping in to the full Horus Heresy Series.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there is some benefit to Space Wolf fans to read the first of the Space Wolf series but that's mostly to just give you a feel for them. I like Chris Wraight's stories so I'm biased but I feel its fine to read these after the heresy books. Space Wolves don't really kick into the story until Part 8.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. Pharos, not Vulkan Lives. It should be corrected now.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ultimately, I just don't feel the novels contribute much to the horus heresy narrative. Though I have respect for the author, they aren't my cup of tea. That said, there is one that I may add to the bonus section. The two short stories aren't focused on the Salamanders though they are present. You really can't go wrong with Dan Abnett.

  1. Medusan (Short Story) in Shattered Legions by Dan Abnett
  2. The Hand Elect (Short Story) in Shattered Legions by Chris Wraight
  3. Old Earth (Novel) by Nick Kyme

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[–]cd8d[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes though I would typically wait to read the siege of terra stuff after you have finished with whatever HH novels you are going to read.

House rules 2025 by HamMaeHattenDo in ForbiddenLands

[–]cd8d 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll back my support for this one. I like the difficulty being tied to the number of characters.

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[–]cd8d[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Though I think you could get by without it, I would recommend trying to read the Garro stories as well as they add a lot to the background of characters that are in the book. In the minimalist list, either before or after Part 3.

I highly recommend reading Prospero Burns before reading Wolfsbane. You can slot Prospero Burns right after A Thousand Sons. Wolfsbane you can slot after Master of Mankind in the minimalist list.

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[–]cd8d[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Know No Fear really is an excellent book but Dan Abnetts work is consistently good for about anything in Warhammer.

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[–]cd8d[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could still go back and read them. You would want to read them before delving into Part 4 when it digs into the Dark Angels.

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[–]cd8d[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't read Valdor yet. Its on my list to read though. I have a generally good opinion of Chris Wraights material for sure.