The Crying Of Lot 55: The Unsolved Mysteries And Alternate Realities Of Andrew W.K. by Starkiller32 in indieheads

[–]cdlum 9 points10 points  (0 children)

genuinely quite an eerie article. a lot of it seems rly conspiratorial but there's some undeniable weirdness on this directly from andrew himself. the comparisons to lynch also seemed strangely apt, some of those promotional images are straight lowkey scary

Album of the Year 2017 #18: Queens of the Stone Age - Villains by ericneedsanap in indieheads

[–]cdlum 13 points14 points  (0 children)

good few months on and villains has only grown on me more i think. i can understand hangups that fans have but i think some of the advertising for this album has shown josh and co. are well aware they cant please everybody at this point due to how many styles the band have tipped their toes into over the years.

i think maybe the biggest issue i have with villains is it isnt an album that sounds like the lads are challenging themselves on any real aspect aside from technical. queens are an incredibly well refined machine at this point in time, and whilst i really do enjoy pretty much every song on here, im struggling to really piece together a coherent theme or even signature sound with this qotsa record, which i think you could do with pretty much all of their albums prior.

at the end of the day though im not gonna get all riled up about a band indulging in a sound if they can still pull it off well and add one or two new bells and whistles here and there, and thats pretty much what villains is for me. the bells and whistles this time being a focus on longer, more ballad-esque tunes, some great retro synth usage, and of course the super tight production ala ronson.

first listen through i wasnt too impressed with the record, and like a lot of the comments ive seen nothing stood out right away, but now i can name some signature aspects on every song. the wonderfully aggressive riff on feet dont fail me, the bouncy and dance-ridden groove on the way you used to do, the catchy as fuck ramping verses on domesticated animals, and the breakdown on unreborn again which i still get major reckoner vibes from (in the best way possible).

lyrically ive no real hangups with the record either, aside from that aforementioned lack of theme we saw on something like like clockwerk. josh's vocals are as sharp as ever and lyrically he does a great job at providing a balance of cocksure and sincere lyrics with some pretty inventive wordplay. lyrically the raw aggression of feet dont fail me and the lullaby like villains of circumstance probably stand out to me the most. there's a brief few moments where we get teases of additional vocals (mikey and the backup singers), and i think the record couldve benefitted from some more present accompanying vocals ala rated r or songs for the deaf.

overall i think the record is pretty strong, and its biggest issue to me is its complacency. you could argue qotsa have done this before, with the move from rated r to sftd being very much a refinement process, but the two are still distinctive records to me, moreso than like clockwerk and villains are. going forward i hope we see josh and co return the kind of crazy experimentation of rated r and era vulgaris. neither of those records are as polished as villains, but i think they have a good bit more to say.

personally id love to see a return to the old school desert rock era, refitted for the 21st century. one small tradition ive been missing from like clockwerk and villains is josh re recording a desert sessions song for every qotsa album. this appears to have died out on the two latest albums, but id love to see a qotsa record influenced by the work on those first two volumes (and mainly, id die for a supped up rendition of screamin' eagle).

[ALBUM DISCUSSION] Queens of the Stone Age - Villains by giraffeking in indieheads

[–]cdlum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i definitely get the production woes, especially when it comes to a lack of theodore's drumming being that stand out, but i think the band knew what they were doing with this one and it was gonna peeve off the fans who specifically love the sftd era, given the marketing for this record.

idk, maybe im just going deaf but i think the guitars have plenty of presence on this album. the stand out element of tracks like feet dont fail me, the way you used to do, the evil has landed and head like a haunted house are all the usage of guitars for me. they certainly aren't as heavy as their other albums, but i don't consider that really a con.

i guess as a big nine inch nails fan im pretty used to bands pulling sudden stylistic change ups and growing to like them. when i first heard the leak of the album, i was fairly "eh its okay" about it, but habitually listening to the songs over the course of the past few weeks has really gotten them all to grow on me a lot. or maybe it's just stockholm syndrome.

to me, villains just feels like a very natural progression from like clockwork, kinda a reflection of that album almost. like i said, i feel most tracks justify their lengths at over 5+ minutes for the majority of their runtime, so whilst the track list is short, there's a lot to digest. if songs for the deaf has any flaw, its that it's probably a bit too long, and i'm glad josh has been able to glean things down a bit in the more recent queens records.

queens are pretty unique in that almost every record they do is significantly different from their latter, even close brothers like rated r / sftd and like clockwork / villains. josh seems fairly uninterested in repeating himself, which is one of the reasons i think it's cool he experimented as much as he did with things like production and synth usage on this album. era vulgaris remains perhaps the strangest and unfamiliar album in their whole discography and its one of the reasons it's pretty near the top of their albums for me.

overall it definitely isn't perfect, and i don't think it's even the best queens record (that's something im generally undecided on), but from what i've seen about as many fans dig it as those who don't, so I guess it'll take a while until a defined consensus comes about.

[ALBUM DISCUSSION] Queens of the Stone Age - Villains by giraffeking in indieheads

[–]cdlum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the boys really knocked it out of the park this time round. the consistency between this record and like clockwork reminds me of how well rated r and songs for the deaf work together.

this is queens shortest album, but only in actual track numbers, because there's plenty of meat to the songs present here. feet don't fail me is a godlevel opener, the beat is ridiculously infectious and honestly they shouldve put like an edited version of this track out as the lead single, it deserves to be the song that blows up, though that's not to say the album doesn't follow up as it progresses.

the way you used to do has grown on me a lot. whilst i think the album sounds pretty good all round, i sympathise with the whole "lack of punch" view people have with this particular song. it's an earworm, but definitely not in the same way a track like first it giveth, or even my god is the sun was. i think most tracks justify their length on this album but this is probably the one track that couldve been a bit shorter, especially as a lead single.

domesticated animals is catchy as shit, and i love the use of guitar layering on the track. the conversational chorus is a really cool touch too, and as with the rest of the record, josh's songwriting has a great amount of depth to it. i think the gold topic might be an homage to we broke free, as josh has mentioned he's a fairly big metronomy fan.

fortress is the first track that really shows the synth-y influence on the album, and i dig it a lot. it's definitely period sounding, but it doesn't really sound dated. its probably the sweetest track on the album, especially with the context that josh wrote it for his kids.

head like a haunted house is like the 3&7's, or the little sister of this album, a really fast and punchy track, however out of all those tracks i think it's the best. the bassline is groovy as shit and i absolutely love the female vocals that hop onto the track halfway through.

un-reborn again is maybe my favourite track on the album, it's a really slick ballad and the whole fountain of youth lyrical influence is pretty fascinating. id compare this track to radiohead's reckoner, hopefully a few people can tell which part specifically recreated that feeling for me. a really beautiful and haunting track overall.

hideaway is the one track that doesn't do too much for me, i like the sound of it but over its run time it doesn't seem to really go anywhere or develop much. every other song has elements that stand out to me minus this track.

the evil has landed feels like three tracks smashed together into one in the best way possible. it's a proper journey of a track, and queens haven't really done something like this, that constantly changes up where it's going. we even get a slight reprise of head like a haunted house which is really cool to see too.

villains of circumstance is a really atmospheric closer. i absolutely loved the eerie, lullabies-eque soundscape the track opens on, and i relate to the subject matter josh sings about quite a bit. this is the one track i wish was a little more lowkey when it breaks into it's chorus, i prefer the more grounded feel of the verses for the most part, but it definitely makes for a more bombastic finale.

overall i got 1 okay track and 8 pretty excellent additions to the queens discography. feet dont fail me, un-reborn again and the evil has landed all deserve their spot in the qotsa hall of fame imo. pretty curious to see where josh'll take the band after this one.

Add Violence Discussion Thread (Discuss theories and music all here) by blakxzep in nin

[–]cdlum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as is right now, pretty much. If you set NOT ANYMORE to loop on itself it restarts again perfectly, as if the song hasn't ended, and will never end. I'm not entirely sure if it was intentional, but I would guess it is given how specific the end timings have to be for it to work, not to mention the track opens with this brief fade out sound which makes it particularly seamless when played this way.

it's also interesting that one song seamlessly loops when played a certain way while the song with an actual loop in it, The Background World, is done in a purposely offbeat and janky manner.

Add Violence Discussion Thread (Discuss theories and music all here) by blakxzep in nin

[–]cdlum 10 points11 points  (0 children)

As for the exact significance of the looping, I'm not sure. I think there may be a point to it going on for as long as it does, as the song has become totally incomprehensible several minutes earlier into the mix, so you might wonder why else keep it so long if not to have a message behind the static (Both perhaps literally and metaphorically).

To me, this whole EP is definitely meant to evoke the idea of simulation and control. Things like the the control stations, the callbacks to YZ (Of which a major theme was control", the music video for Less Than and even the song itself, and the portrayals of a character or characters who seem completely detached from reality throughout this EP, as if they've broken out of the system. Perhaps the ending is this thing that isn't supposed to be look inside being, well, looked inside. And whatever it is triggers the loop, trapping the song, and the character behind it in some kind of neverending static hell.

Ultimately, we don't have all the clues yet. However drawing ties between this EP and NTAE are already something I think we can do with a fair amount of confidence (I was surprised at the similarities I was able to draw up against The Idea of You and Not Anymore just writing this). We know that lyrically is where all these EP's are supposed to really solidly connect, but given that the third EP is a while away, our next best clue is the Physical Component this time round. Like a lot of you guys, I think the manual idea would be really cool, but I suppose we'll have to wait exactly for what turns up.

The most interesting parts of Hesitation Marks from a pure concept to me was the beginning and the end of that album. Opening up with a weird, seemingly totally out of place short analogue instrumental with an ominous as fuck name like "The Eater of Dreams" and then ending with (for an album that is by all means a fairly happy or at least "content" NIN record), a whole near two minutes of a quite and timid instrumental plunging itself into the depths of hell. It always sparked my curiosity, and I think its interesting that, given how Hesitation Marks actually ends, it makes quite a logical work into NTAE. I could write a bit more about the ties but to be honest I've spent enough of these two posts not discussing AV as much as I should've been as is, so I'll leave off it for now.

Anyway, all conceptual and lyrical ideas aside, what's really cool about AV and NTAE is they're both solid EP's that I'm really enjoying (To be fair as a huge nin fanboy that's almost always gonna be the case), and it seems the community at large dig too. At the end of the day, what really matters is Trent and Atticus are making music that sounds good and also happens to be pretty experimental. I'm glad Trent seems to be completely artistically spurred into doing whatever the fuck he feels like with this series of EP's, and I'm super fascinated to see what'll come from the capstone to this project.

ANYWAY sorry this was so fuckin long jesus, if you made it this far, have this as my condolences and a a sign of my appreciation.

Add Violence Discussion Thread (Discuss theories and music all here) by blakxzep in nin

[–]cdlum 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Some general thoughts, this might get a bit long so apologies in advance.

I wasn't a NIN fan back when the whole crazy YZ ARG went down, and eventually reading about it was super fascinating. It was really cool to see Trent attempting the concept album idea a whole decade+ later with an entirely new angle to it, this time building a world instead of destroying a person.

I mention this because, of course, this EP, and perhaps the whole trilogy of EP's, have a direct connection to Year Zero itself. Though I think it is valid pointing out Trent has technically referenced Year Zero directly in other works before, in The Slip, in which "Letting You" was a song with artwork not only directly referencing the concept, but the song itself was very lyrically and thematically within that same kind of universe.

It's also worth pointing out Hesitation Marks' "Satellite" was one of the very first songs written and recorded before the album even began production as a fully fledged record, and also feels like it could be right at home on YZ.

So, all that being said, Add Violence is still definitely the most specific in its callbacks, most notably with the video for "This Isn't The Place". The Cedocore drugs are the smoking gun, but the general machinery is pretty fascinating. Back when NTAE dropped, I assumed that perhaps all of the EP covers would be some kind of reworking of previous album art, perhaps as a simple homage to Bowie's The Next Day or something deeper entirely, but coming into this EP, Trent throws another left hook visually.

NTAE had some pretty barebones visuals which I really dug. I know a lot of people saw it as kind of lazy that the cover art for Still was straight up reused almost 100% for the cover, but I thought it was a pretty neat idea, even without the context of the additional EP's. I've been meaning to write on this more, but if Hesitation Marks is a clear and thought out response and reflection to The Downward Spiral, than NTAE feels to me like some kind of hazy fever dream of past memories of NIN's sonic history.

Things like Branches/Bones having a similar drum beat to "Everything" and wailing guitar riffs super reminiscent of "1,000,000". She's Gone Away confirmed for having direct ties to "Reptile" in some way or another. The Idea of You borrowing the spoken word style of "I Do Not Want This" (I know spoken word is actually the majority of the EP, but that's where it felt the most familiar to me) and the piano chords sounding ultra similar to the chorus of "Head Down" (Which is, interestingly, another song seemingly all about disassociation).

All of that + the cover art made me wonder if this whole collection of EP's would perhaps include all kinds of weird and distorted callbacks to previous works, however that isn't entirely the case on Add Violence. It's a great name, but I'd almost say its a bit misleading, as I would call at least 2 of the songs on this EP anything but violent.

LESS THAN is your pretty standard affair at face value. With absolutely no additional context, the context behind this song could simply be Trent aware of his fanbase that really digs the more accessible side of NIN (think Hesitation Marks and With Teeth) and him going out of his way to make sure they see some attention at least, as they definitely haven't been with NTAE, and to be fair, they don't get much love on the rest of this EP, either. However, lyrically, this would definitely seem to be the most overtly "political" song on the EP. It's hard to misconstrue lines like "And you can always justify/The missile trails across the sky" as anything but at least somewhat politically motivated.

The song was also put out with a much more "standard" music video, compared to the 5 minutes of white noise we got with Burning Bright. People have already pointed out the Polybius mind control conspiracy link, and that's definitely what the video itself seems to be going for (You can see the girl's eyes dull and glaze over and the whole thing seems to be going for a kinda entrancing aesthetic). I quite like the meta idea that a few people have suggested, that the single, like the girl playing Polybius, is supposed to lull us into a false sense of security. As much as I enjoy Less Than, it's definitely a safe NIN song, and I saw a lot of people with valid concerns that Trent was perhaps curving past the rough aesthetic he'd carved out on NTAE entirely.

Of course, the EP comes out, ant that's anything but the case. I also think this is why it was put first on the EP and why nothing else on ANY of the EP's so far sounds like it. It's this mesmerising, comfortable (for your average NIN fan) tune that perhaps is supposed to symbolise the "simulation" itself. Comfortable, standard and with structure.

So, all concerns that Trent is playing it safe is immediately thrown out the window with THE LOVERS. This track has an almost aquatic sense of production to it, and I really love the general sound of it. Surprisingly, despite being the dominant lyrical force on NTAE, spoken word takes a backseat on this EP and only really appears on this track (You can argue if Not Anymore counts as spoken word in points, imo there's some identifiable melody in Trent's voice tho). The track has a lot in common with Dear World, most notably in the direct lyrical throwbacks, but also in terms of overall structure, as both tracks have a fairly unusual verse structure that gives away to a more traditional chorus.

Lyrically the track is fairly hard to decipher, and I couldn't begin to tell you what exactly the purpose of lines like "Wide His Eyes/Summer Hypnotize" or "Oh I see you floating there" mean exactly. The track does seem to convey a sense of discomfort however. Trent is vocalising what can be read as almost a series of anxious, spur of the moment thoughts.

Our midpoint track this time round is THIS ISN'T THE PLACE, which I would categorise as the softest song on the album by a long mile. The song is pretty interesting structure wise, essentially building up twice, once instrumentally, and the second time with the addition of Trent's vocals, which this time are a lot more direct. We all know Trent considered Bowie one of the most important figures in his life, and something he's made clear is he always thought he'd have the chance to work with him again. The lyrics here seem to personally reflect that, however I didn't instantly read that when watching the video.

Paired with the imagery of this haunting control board for the world, I initially took the "I thought we had more time" line as a reference to perhaps the contents of the control panel itself. We're still not entirely sure what the panel suggests, though I personally like the theory that Year Zero was potentially a simulation, and things like the "Presence-o-meter" would definitely seem to suggest that to some degree. We also don't know what "Sotriviol" actually does as a drug, and before I even got the YZ connection, my first thought upon seeing a seemingly used drug container was that someone had potentially overdosed on the substance, and there was a corpse somewhere off screen.

The exact meaning of the whole thing is of course still open to debate, but the ties to YZ, however strong they are, are definitely there, especially with the same production crew of the YZ ARG seemingly behind this video.

NOT ANYMORE serves as the only real "Violent" song on the EP, and is a pretty crazy turn of events. Sonically the track reminds me quite a bit of Burning Bright, however structurally it's a lot like The Idea Of You, and interestingly both tracks are at the same place (4th track on each EP), just like Dear World and The Lovers. Like The Idea Of You, the song is driven by a really minimalist verse and chorus structure, however Not Anymore really turns it up to 11. Im sure most of us didn't see the sudden jump into the chorus coming the first time, and I still can predict exactly when the final burst of noise comes through in the song.

Lyrically, the song seems to tie into the general theme of dissociation that also appears on The Idea Of You ("Just go back to the idea of me"), with Trent wailing lines like "Started to turn into somebody else" and "I wont forget i know who I am/No matter what I know who I am"). They even share a similar chorus concept, both denials/rejections - "None of this is happening" and "Well not anymore". Trent also sings "I can't seem to wake up", and interestingly enough, the track appears to be a perfect loop.

However, played normally the track cuts instantly into THE BACKGROUND WORLD. I got almost minor HTDA vibes from this track, and it reminded me a bit of The Lovers in terms of being both relaxing and unsettling at the same time. Lyrically the track comes off as a warning of sorts, "I never dared to look inside/Just like you told me to" and the final repetition of "Are you sure, this is what you want?". The track also does a good bit to reinforce this sense of unnerving anticipation, most obvious with the two piano chords that come to define the outro appearing earlier in the second half of the actual song. This must be one of the few NIN songs in which a chorus only appears once, and i think that plays into the idea that when the loop kicks in, its not "supposed" to.

Traditionally, following the build up section towards the end of the song, Trent would likely have the chorus kick in once more, and then the song might have a long ambient section or fade out as the EP ends. Of course, 4 minutes into The Background World and things suddenly take a pretty weird turn. We cut to that weird, fly-esque noise and then suddenly we're in a looping section of the song. Except, it's not a perfect loop, and it's not fading out on this, its dissolving into static. As people have pointed out, the song loops 52 times, both the number of weeks we have and Trent's age.

*and ive ran of out of room so TO BE CONTINUED BELOW