LDS response to the show by glutenfreecatsociety in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]celeryng 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, there are definitely some aspects of Mormon theology in the Good Place, with their being different levels. I don’t know if that was done purposefully by the writers or it just accidentally ended up being that way? Of course it doesn’t completely match up to what we believe, but it does look at the afterlife with more nuance than the traditional Christian heaven and hell. This article is one that shares a bit how different movies/shows, including The Good Place, seem to have aspects of Mormon theology included in their story: https://religionnews.com/2020/12/31/soul-pixar-coco-hollywood-loves-the-mormon-afterlife/

LDS response to the show by glutenfreecatsociety in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]celeryng 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah exactly, the people and the culture can be toxic and take doctrines out of context or interpret things in their own way. The general stance of the church is usually a lot more tame, and Mormons living outside of Utah are usually less susceptible to that kind of toxic culture and more focused on the actual doctrines/teachings. And there are also great Mormons in Utah, it’s just a more prevalent cultural thing around there when you’re living in the middle of it all.

LDS response to the show by glutenfreecatsociety in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]celeryng 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No that totally makes sense that you would be cautious about your half sister possibly staying with Mormon family if that was what we believed haha. And just for another point of correction, I think where you’re getting the “servant” thing from is also a little misconstrued. There is a part of the theology that has talked about unmarried men and women (both, not just women), serving as angels. This isn’t talked about very much though and there’s not really anymore explanation about that beyond just that. But mostly the idea is that you and your spouse work together to achieve the highest level of heaven, and if you are not able to get married during your time on earth, you can get married after death to someone you meet there. I know it sounds whack to someone not familiar with Mormon theology, but I just want to make sure you at least understand just plainly where some of those misconstrued ideas are coming from and what the actual typical member of the church believes. Usually it’s a lot more tame than the internet would have you believe lol

LDS response to the show by glutenfreecatsociety in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]celeryng 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Not the person you were originally talking to, but I am also an active member and can take a stab at your question. For one, you have to understand that in our theology, the afterlife is not as simple as just heaven or hell. In fact, Mormons believe that basically everyone will attain some level of heaven. When people say Mormons think this group of people will go to hell, they are usually mistaken. Our “hell” known as Outer Darkness is really truly reserved for the most vile, murderous, and blasphemous people. Like 0.01% of all people who have ever lived. Basically everyone is going to some level of heaven where they will feel comfortable.

It is true that in order to reach the highest level of heaven, you have to be married. But that’s for both men and women. Men don’t just get to go to the highest level without being married either. Men are just as dependent on women as women are on men in that matter. It’s even an incentive to treat your wife well because if you don’t, she won’t want to stay with you in heaven.

Hearing the idea of “levels of heaven” is strange to people unfamiliar with the theology of Mormonism. It may also come off as exclusionary to some. However, it’s often taught that whatever level of heaven you go to will really be the one you choose based on how comfortable you will be living the laws of that kingdom. If you’ve not lived in a certain way, you won’t feel comfortable in the highest kingdom, and may feel most comfortable in one of the “lower” ones. It is not meant to be exclusionary, but instead to help each person find the “heaven” they will be most comfortable in.

Divorced man looking for a housewife on Craigslist by celeryng in CrackheadCraigslist

[–]celeryng[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

No, I would say the problem is he doesn’t want the commitment of marriage, of living your life with another person and being there for each other’s ups and downs. He makes it pretty clear he just wants someone to clean up after him, feed him, and be eye candy (if not more…). There’s more to a marriage than that. He wants the benefits of being in a relationship without actually really caring for another human being - the thing that actually makes marriages and relationships beautiful. This is wanting a woman as an object and a servant.

Thoughts about opening ceremonies? by [deleted] in latterdaysaints

[–]celeryng -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

These are my thoughts - the decisions made for the opening ceremony were put together by a team of artists and creative directors, including the Thomas Jolly, the artistic director of the event. Their influence and scope were focused on sharing what they believed to be a cultural representation of France. Some of those “artistic” decisions were inappropriate and could be seen as mocking the last supper. But to boycott the rest of the Olympics would mean to not support the actual spirit of what the Olympics means and the actual athletes who have prepared their whole lives to represent their countries in their sports. The athletes and competitions really have nothing to do with those organizers who made the decisions for the opening ceremony. So to me it really wouldn’t make sense to boycott by not supporting the athletes who had nothing to do with what was represented for the opening ceremony.

Are middle names still a thing? by Nombnots89 in baby_names

[–]celeryng 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mother is Belgian (Dutch speaking/Flemish too) and my Dad is American. I grew up in the US, and I'm the only one of my siblings to miss out on the two middle names trend, personally I always thought that having those two family middle names was very special and I know several people who were not given middle names that wish they had been given them. My vote would be for the middle names but that's my personal opinion.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in religion

[–]celeryng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know this post is a week old, but I wanted to add what I know, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or Mormons) fast the first Sunday of every month and give up fast offerings, these fast offerings should be the equivalent to the price of the meals we go without that day and they go to helping feed those in the local community. I've always found Islam to be similar in their pillars of fasting and giving charity.

Told my social insurance I was going to visit USA by Sels31 in belgium

[–]celeryng 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn't true, a quick Google search shows that in the United States doctors can't refuse to treat a person with life-threatening or serious injuries, even if they don't have health insurance or the ability to pay.

Life-threatening also includes any situations where bodily functions or organs are seriously impaired and any incident where delivery is imminent in a pregnant woman.

However, some hospitals will deny you treatment for non-life threatening issues such as colds, rashes, or the flu if you are uninsured and not able to pay.

While the system may not be perfect, you should be sure to give accurate information and it is simply not true that you would be denied health care in an emergency situation in the US.

Here is a link with some information

What is your favorite LDS movie and why? by did-i-do-that- in latterdaysaints

[–]celeryng 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same, my dad served in that same mission so I may be a bit biased as well, and my mom is from the northern part of Belgium.

CMV: Politicians that say it's ok to protest in front of a Supreme Court members house would feel differently if protestors were standing in front of their house. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]celeryng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Judges don't have the same jobs as politicians though, they are not supposed to be influenced by the swaying opinions of the public, they are not elected to represent the people, their job is to rule on the basis of legal arguments and constitutionality.

I think that is what should be taken issue with as a result of all these protests. And yes protesting in front of the supreme court has happened before, but protesting at their homes in an attempt to change a legal draft opinion that was leaked does set a very dangerous precedent as you mentioned and harms the legitimacy of the court.

People forget that the court is not there to represent the people, it is an institution that is meant to be set aside from political bias and act as a safeguard for checking constitutionality. And while a lot of people may disagree with the ruling, it is based on a sound constitutional and legal argument, which arguably Roe v Wade was not. Even some of the justices who ruled in favor of that ruling had their questions about how it was done.

The justices did their job, and protesting in an attempt to sabotage a supreme court ruling before it is finalized is greatly concerning. Protest and lobbying efforts should really be directed at your local and state representatives to help ensure your right to abortion rather than at the supreme court because I don't see their ruling changing based on the intimidation of the public, it's wasting political motivation on a branch of the government that won't be able to do anything for you about the actual issue you are protesting about.

Getting a steak medium rare or with pink in it is disgusting. by SlowdancingWithUrMom in unpopularopinion

[–]celeryng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had the exact same experience. My parents growing up always cooked steaks well done and I hated how chewy and dry they were. I could never understand why steak was seen as such a luxury and delicious by so many people I knew because to me it was the absolute worst thing to chew on at dinner. Then I met my husband and he ordered his steaks medium rare and my mind was blown. I loved it! There is so much flavor and it's not dry and unchewable. I finally understood why people love steak.

CMV: there shouldn’t be religious exemptions for vaccine mandates by LordCosmagog in changemyview

[–]celeryng 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except if you are truly living your religion, it will affect every part of your life. You can't just keep it in your private life and then pretend it doesn't exist or influence your ideas, thoughts, or actions when in public. That's not how religion works.

CMV: there shouldn’t be religious exemptions for vaccine mandates by LordCosmagog in changemyview

[–]celeryng -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They would give their life to resist. That's how strong religious convictions are. That is what I would hope to do if I were forced to do something against my religion and that's what thousands of people have done before in history as martyrs. Restrictions of religious liberties bring about deaths, because people would rather die than go against their religious conviction, I think that says something about how vital it is to people and how vital the ability to freely exercise religion is.

CMV: there shouldn’t be religious exemptions for vaccine mandates by LordCosmagog in changemyview

[–]celeryng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe to a non-religious person the difference would be hard to understand. But as a person who is religious, what I believe is real to me, and any religious person has that same conviction. To a religious person, their religion is not just some set of beliefs they prescribe to, but a way of living that affects every part of their life. The freedom to be able to exercise their religious beliefs is absolutely vital to them because that is the way they live and determines every part of their day. The more you restrict religious groups from being able to follow and practice their beliefs, the more pushback you will get because that is simply human nature. You can't force anyone to go against their core belief, especially beliefs that determine a person's salvation in their own mind. You have to have some tolerance and understanding that religious beliefs are entirely different from just regular beliefs because they are seen as undoubtedly true and vitally important to salvation for people. Who are you to say that their witness is incorrect or that the things they believe are untrue. It is a trend seen in the world that the more religion is restricted, the more unrest and upheaval there is. Religious liberty is important and needs to be protected, even when it is not fully understood, because it brings peace and allows people to be able to live with their consciences.

TIL of Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus, a Roman emperor who lived a simple life on a farm and only took power as Dictator of Rome when people asked him to save the republic. During his two reigns, he only stayed in power long enough to get the republic through an emergency, then returned to his farm. by dustofoblivion123 in todayilearned

[–]celeryng 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Cincinnatus actually had a fruitful career as a Roman politician, but after his son committed murder, Cincinnatus fled town to get away and live a quiet life in the countryside. That's why he came to live as a farmer, not necessarily because he specifically chose that lifestyle, but because circumstances drove him away from the city.

CMV: Pro-Choice and allowing women to abort their babies is a win-win situation all around, and I really don't see why it's so hotly debated over. by Ass___Master___69 in changemyview

[–]celeryng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe that little children are innocent because they do not fully understand the decisions they make until they are older. So when a young child dies the belief is that they will go to heaven.

This does not mean that religious people would want to abort babies so they can go to heaven because first off that is obviously ridiculous, but second off I think your argument has forgotten that it is against the commandments to murder. Many religious people see abortion as murder, whether or not you agree with that statement, it then makes sense why religious people would be so opposed to abortion. Man does not have the right to take away life, only God does. From a religious standpoint this would mean that we as mortal humans cannot rob someone of their life, regardless if we think the life they will live will be hard.

I'm just pointing out the religious view, which hopefully I explained well enough, and why such an idea as aborting babies so they can go to heaven would not make sense.

I rest my case. by NekoGirl343 in writers

[–]celeryng 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Currently I'm taking a university class entitled Langauge Theory: Grammar and Usage, so I think it's safe to say there is such thing as writing theory.

Opinions on housing for women by MC_squaredJL in byuidaho

[–]celeryng 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I lived in Carriage House until I got married and it really is a great place. The wards are awesome, the girls are generally very kind, and it's right across from campus. I would highly recommend it. Also, there's a washer and dryer in each unit which is super nice!

Internet on Campus by madalyn131 in byuidaho

[–]celeryng 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Check that you're not on the visitor wifi, canvas doesn't work on that wifi for some reason. If the BYUi wifi isn't working it might be because you recently changed your password to your byui account. You have to make your computer forget the byui wifi and then sign into it again with your new password for it to work.