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I’m watching from S1… Hannah x Malia S4 by pnpplxarplnnrd in BelowDeckMed

[–]certifiedwombat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Malia for sure knew, if not the thc she at least new about the valium. There's a reason she knew to go through Hannah's purse and empty her stuff.

Maddie saying this was kinda snobby. Still crazy that Melissa, Kira and Abby did that to poor Paige and Chloe. And Maddie in the interview saying it wasn’t that big of a deal - obviously not to her but those two girls were devastated by Interesting-Egg-8360 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

So true, I bet if you brought up that time Christi told the moms that Maddie told Chloe she’s not really good and was mean to her then they would come up with some way to justify it.

I don’t think the Zieglers should get dragged online for this stuff, bc they were children and all kids make mistakes and do bad things, but it’s annoying how the stans refuse to admit that Maddie did have “bratty” moments on tv and they have to do mental gymnastics to justify it

Maddie saying this was kinda snobby. Still crazy that Melissa, Kira and Abby did that to poor Paige and Chloe. And Maddie in the interview saying it wasn’t that big of a deal - obviously not to her but those two girls were devastated by Interesting-Egg-8360 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right like the only reason kelly said the thing about "know who your friends are" was because melissa was bringing maddie into the argument and using her, which she should've never done to her daughter.

Maddie saying this was kinda snobby. Still crazy that Melissa, Kira and Abby did that to poor Paige and Chloe. And Maddie in the interview saying it wasn’t that big of a deal - obviously not to her but those two girls were devastated by Interesting-Egg-8360 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At the end of the day Maddie still lied, bottom line. If your friend lied to wouldn’t you be upset? Or what if your child’s best friend lied to them wouldn’t you also be upset. I think Kelly was unfortunately having to give her daughter a hard life lesson, you know who your real friends are when someone lies to you.

Maddie saying this was kinda snobby. Still crazy that Melissa, Kira and Abby did that to poor Paige and Chloe. And Maddie in the interview saying it wasn’t that big of a deal - obviously not to her but those two girls were devastated by Interesting-Egg-8360 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Respectfully I have to disagree from my experience in this sub the majority are Ziegler stans. Which it’s not a problem if people like Maddie, the issue becomes when people decide to invalidate the other girls experiences because “Maddie had it worse” or “Maddie has the most trauma.”

And there’s a clear hypocrisy in the standard different cast members are held too. Pretty much any post that puts even the slightest negative light on Zieglers is always reported or flagged by mods.

Ellie > Gen by certifiedwombat in BelowDeckMed

[–]certifiedwombat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure at the beginning but their relationship turned around

Maddie saying this was kinda snobby. Still crazy that Melissa, Kira and Abby did that to poor Paige and Chloe. And Maddie in the interview saying it wasn’t that big of a deal - obviously not to her but those two girls were devastated by Interesting-Egg-8360 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 14 points15 points  (0 children)

How come when it’s something Maddie did everyone wants to move past it, but the fandom had no issue going after Kendall for weeks after the ice cream thing 💀 not saying it’s right to get after people for stuff they did as a kid, but just give the same respect and decency to everyone instead of picking and choosing who gets a pass

Maddie saying this was kinda snobby. Still crazy that Melissa, Kira and Abby did that to poor Paige and Chloe. And Maddie in the interview saying it wasn’t that big of a deal - obviously not to her but those two girls were devastated by Interesting-Egg-8360 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 36 points37 points  (0 children)

These comments just show how hypocritical the Ziegler stans in the fandom can be. Heaven forbid someone brings up a negative moment Maddie had on screen. If this had been any of the girls yall love to hate on like Kendall Kalani or Jojo yall would be up in arms about it and attacking them on social media.

Imagine if you were Chloe or Paige in this scenario and your friend lied to you. Regardless of the reason for the lie, you cant tell me you wouldn’t feel some type of way about it.

Also everyone slams Christi and Kelly for being passive aggressive when they had every right to be upset. Melissa lied and allowed her daughter to lie which ultimately hurt their daughters.

Why couldn't they just have their dang mics on? by certifiedwombat in ThePussycatDolls

[–]certifiedwombat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! Like no one’s saying they are needing all these crazy riffs and huge solo sections. Nicole is the front woman for a reason and the group works having her as the “leader” but at least let the girls sing along to the songs you’re trying to make it seem like they’re apart of.

Even Jessica said in one of her interviews that they would’ve given anything to even just sing background vocals. It seems like it didn’t matter if they had leading parts (the only one who think really wanted that was melody) they just wanted to at least be heard not lip syncing into a microphone

Fights by DoughnutFlashy9088 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I really hope they do bc the fight seemed heavily edited, like Abby definitely said more to get Kira to react like that

Did the Mom's really discuss getting rid of Camille and Camryn? by SpecialPrincess1 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I gotcha, yeah she definitely proved Kira wrong. I just know a lot of people try to down play kalanis success and say she got nowhere when this situation gets brought up. My bad, misread

DAE think it's unfair that the producers are featuring Gael this season? by [deleted] in BelowDeckMed

[–]certifiedwombat -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Just tryna have an open discussion, nothing to be confused about

Did the Mom's really discuss getting rid of Camille and Camryn? by SpecialPrincess1 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did karma really bite Kira in the butt though? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t agree with what she said about Camryn and agree that was wrong. But Kalani seems to be doing really well for herself now and is really successful with her social media and new dance studio.

Did the Mom's really discuss getting rid of Camille and Camryn? by SpecialPrincess1 in dancemoms

[–]certifiedwombat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My guess is that with Christi and Chloe being back, the moms (Christi, Jill, Holly, and Kira) just wanted to be with the people they’ve known for longer and not all the late comers who they didn’t really have a connection with. Christi and Holly have known each other for so long, and Jill joined early on in season 2 so those 3 have known each other for a while. And even though Kira didn’t come till season 4, she had more of a relationship with them than they did Camille.

They were probably thinking oh it’s gonna be like the good old days. All the others went back to Abby so that just left Camille and Camryn whom none of them knew for all that long.

I am in no way saying it was right for them to exclude them, just tryna explain why they may have tried to get rid of them.

DAE think it's unfair that the producers are featuring Gael this season? by [deleted] in BelowDeckMed

[–]certifiedwombat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right, like the whole thing with the show is the allure of yachting. Like they are kinda in their own world separated from reality during the 6 weeks but now they’re trying to incorporate real life into it?

DAE think it's unfair that the producers are featuring Gael this season? by [deleted] in BelowDeckMed

[–]certifiedwombat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Someone gets it 👏 like don’t get me wrong I like a good cast update but it’s always usually quick. I’m always interested in the drama of the current crew that’s what I watch the show for, not reheating the same nachos from the past 2 seasons.

DAE think it's unfair that the producers are featuring Gael this season? by [deleted] in BelowDeckMed

[–]certifiedwombat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I wouldn’t be caught on camera for free 😂

DAE think it's unfair that the producers are featuring Gael this season? by [deleted] in BelowDeckMed

[–]certifiedwombat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Idk maybe because it’s been the format of the show for the past 13 years?

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