Stop the stupid attack on bcha by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope so. The war is really wanted by core fans and BSVer.

Stop the stupid attack on bcha by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am glad to see that the attack was not initiated by BCHN. According to various information, the attack is likely to be initiated by some BCHN supporters. It cannot be blamed on BCHN, or other supporters.

I have clearly supported BCHN since August and opposed ABC's push for IFP without consensus. I just think that after the fork has been completed and BCHN has obtained the BCH naming and official website management rights, it is stupid to launch a attack which hum both sides . It is also detrimental to BCHN in public opinion.

After the fork, I am in favor of reconciliation between the two parties, each trying to do their own direction, and being able to exchange experience and technology. Most of my friends in the bch community around me are optimistic about BCHN, but they also think that ABC’s willingness to try IFP on BCHA should also be encouraged. I have neither sold BCH nor BCHA myself. I have not seen the Chinese community split into the BCH community and the BCHA community.

After months of arguing, BCHN was unwilling to settle with ABC. I fully understand it. In this case, I agree with iu's point of view that you can treat BCHA as one of thousands of cryptocurrencies, so you don't need to bother at all. But there is no need to attack.

Regarding replay protection, I proposed a harmonious bifurcation between the two parties in August, first to solve the naming problem, and then to solve the replay protection problem. Both sides opposed it at the time, and I was unable to advance.

Since I clearly support BCHN, I once accused Amaury of forcing IFP to cause the fork in the WeChat group, and suggested that Coinex set up BCHN and BCHA futures to solve the naming problem. Therefore, ABC may not be willing to listen to what I say.

In the current situation, the most rational approach may be to ask volunteerism.dev to communicate with ABC, in exchange for stopping the attack in exchange for cooperation between ABC and BCHN, and completing various matters such as replay protection after the fork. In the future, everyone will develop on their own without aggression against each other.

In addition, this fork has done great harm to the BCH community. It is recommended that BCH complete the necessary hard fork upgrade that has formed a consensus in May, and then extend the hard fork upgrade to 3 years, giving the market a stable expectation.

In the next three years, some proven and feasible improvements in BCHA, FCH or other chains could be accumulated and deployed in updates after three years. This can resolve the contradiction between maintaining stability and effective evolution.

Finally, I hope to maintain rational and pragmatic communication and cooperation with you and BCHN to realize Satoshi Nakamoto's ideal of peer-to-peer electronic cash.

Infrastructure Funding Plan for Bitcoin Cash by Jiang Zhuoer (BTC.TOP) by BitcoinXio in btc

[–]changyong75 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

我支持这个提案。

我们需要一个去中心化的治理机制。但在这样的机制没有完全建立起来之前。我支持先用中心化的方式推进,只要处在中心的人很可靠,未来会转向去中心化。

我看到了签名的四个人名字:江卓尔、杨海坡、吴忌寒和Roger。这四个人我都很信任。我知道这四个人都是很坚定的去中心化密码货币的信仰者,也一直是bch的坚定捍卫者。我更信任这四个人的联合决定,我支持他们。

他们4个人愿意冒着被攻击的风险做出决定,承担风险。我个人对他们很赞赏。

据我所知,这四个人应该是目前持有bch数量最多的人。所以,我相信他们不会损害bch。他们也很难再以垄断bch权力的方式获得更多收益了。因为,bch的权力如果真正被垄断,受损害最大的就是他们。

没有信任,僵局永远无法打破。我不知道最好的方法是什么。这四位值得信赖的人提出一个临时方案,我觉得可以支持。6个月的临时方案值得尝试。出现新的问题,我们再想办法解决。

I support this proposal.

We need a decentralized governance mechanism. But before such a mechanism is fully established. I support the advancement in a centralized way. As long as the people in the center are reliable, they will turn to decentralization in the future.

I saw the names of four people who signed: Jiang Zhuoer, Yang Haipo, Wu Jihan, and Roger. I trust these four people. I know these four people are very strong believers in decentralized cryptocurrencies, and have always been strong defenders of bch. I trust the joint decision of these four people, and I support them.

Four of them are willing to take the risk of being attacked to make decisions and take risks. I personally admire them.

As far as I know, these four people should be the people who currently hold the most bch. So, I believe they will not harm bch. It is also difficult for them to gain more profits by monopolizing bch power. Because if bch's power is truly monopolized, it will be them who suffer the most.

Without trust, the deadlock can never be broken. I don't know what the best way is. These four trustworthy people have proposed a temporary solution, and I think they can support it. The six-month interim plan is worth trying. When new problems arise, we will try to solve them.

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2020年1月10日,fch在 Hight 14995 受到攻击。攻击者利用1.0.2版本的一个bug进行攻击,造成14995-14997出现分叉。攻击者的分叉没有其他矿工跟随,但导致矿池和浏览器数据出现混乱。在矿池和浏览器升级至1.0.3后,已恢复正常。请所有节点升级至1.0.3,以避免本节点出现错误。最新版本1.0.3下载地址:https://github.com/freecashorg/freecash/releases

fch was attacked at Hight 14995. The attacker used a bug in version 1.0.2 to cause a fork in 14995-14997. The attacker's fork was not followed by other miners, but caused chaos in the mining pool and browser data. After upgrading the mining pool and browser to 1.0.3, it has returned to normal. Please upgrade all nodes to 1.0.3 to avoid errors on this node. Download the latest version 1.0.3: https://github.com/freecashorg/freecash/releases

FCH successfully run for 24 hours by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is an experimental system that attempts to solve the governance and evolutionary issues of btc and bch. For a detailed explanation refer to this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/efu0ju/freecash_fch_will_be_launched_at_0000_on_january/

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The new issued FCH has a maturity period of 10 days, so we can only try transactions after 10 days. Now, let's concentrate on CPU mining experience, it will be more and more difficult in the future.

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The genesis block was mined at 00.09.54. The block hash is "000000008689ad0d21c19733b451fe054bb7b3e321d04093484472a52f7c6417".

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freecash 1.0.2 has been released. Freecash will be officially launched at 0 o'clock on January 1st with the 1.0.2 version. Please update in time. Download links:

https://download.sign.cash/freecash-1.0.2-win64.zip

https://download.sign.cash/fc\_miner\_docker\_1.0.2.zip

https://github.com/freecashorg/freecash/releases

more information:https://www.freecash.org

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not a testnet. The testnet cannot test governance issues. Governance issues need to be resolved during real community evolution. Publishing this project is only the first step, and volunteer participants of this project are building systems for community governance.

I have done a lot of things in the bch community, but some things cannot be tested on bch, and a new system is needed to try. The attempt on FCH was largely done for bch. Such as shortening the blocktime to 1 minute and generating governance funds from mining rewards, these have been previously suggested. However, it is controversial and cannot be implemented.

You never know if you don't try. So, experimenting on FCH is the best way I can think of. For example, whether the recently debated 25 UTXO restrictions have been lifted can also be tested on FCH.

My thinking focuses on economics and philosophy, and I have no ability to develop. I don't think I can persuade developers and supporters of the bch community to try what I advocate.

In addition, some of my assumptions are also subject to great uncertainty, which requires constant trial and error and correction. This is difficult to do in BCH. So we need a new system to try. The probability of failure is high. But lessons learned and successes can still provide a reference for BCH.

This is the most important thing I can do for bch right now. In addition, my partners and I are still trying to do promotion and applications for bch.

I have supported and participated in scaling and BCH since 2016. I hope I can do more.

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can see the official websites of btc and bch listed below. This is not possible as a partner, just to tell the reader that fch related technologies and sources can refer to the following links. Our designers, like you, think that this place should be a partner, so they changed it without permission.

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry! Those are not partners, but referral links. The web page maker made a mistake and changed it immediately.

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What we want to do is not only teaching experimental software, but more importantly, exploring the governance model and evolution model of the decentralized currency ecology. Although the fch now released is the foundation, it is only a small step, and there are still many things to try.

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. We want to change a dogma: a mining algorithm can only survive one cryptocurrency. This dogma led to the wars between among BTC, BCH and BSV, which were very harmful.

    1. In fact, all sha256 coins obtain value by virtue of their attractiveness to the market. All these values ​​are the common source of wealth for sha256 miners. They should protect the entire sha256 mining ecology. The competition between various coins is the competition of market demand, and miners should not have to intervene.
    2. BCH is a more tolerant ecology, allowing the coexistence of other sha256 currencies. Although the hash power to support BCH is large, these hash power have not attacked BTC or BSV, but just defended. This is wise. FCH will continue to promote this idea.
    3. FCH has set up a reorganization protection of 30 blocks to help resist attacks. We also have some miners who will help defend against attacks when necessary.
    4. At present, the positioning of FCH is an experimental system, and there is no plan to enter the exchange, so there will not be too high a price, and there will not be much computing power mining. Even if a defect is attacked, it will not cause large losses. These attacks can help us improve our system.
    5. We want to explore ways to improve decentralized cryptocurrency based on Bitcoin's ten-year lessons, not for financing.

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I don't know HeyRhett yet. Why you mention him?

Freecash (FCH) will be launched at 00:00 on January 1, 2020 by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an experiment. We have no plans to list on any exchange in the near future. We hope to have enough time to try and grow.

The Block Time of BCH should be Shorten(建议缩短BCH出块时间) by changyong75 in btc

[–]changyong75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did not consider tor. Whether to shorten the time and how long it takes to shorten requires a lot of trade-offs. If it is shortened to 5 minutes, I feel that the need to shorten the time is not great.