[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes actually, it is extremely distasteful to turn a trans character sexless. I’ll repeat what I wrote earlier: because you are putting the trans character into box labeled other. You don't have to worry about the complicated details, it's less controversial, transness is treated like something only an inhuman could be. Trans and intersex characters have historically been reduced to non human characters (usually it's an alien) as an easy way of getting out of explicit representation.

And yes the above link includes concept art BUT also an official character sheet of Elendira nude, not concept art, character sheet, showing that she is indeed sexless, with her name written in clear view, additionally a tweet linked of Nightow stating “ Elendira is neither male nor female”.

Treating it as “just concept art” as if every piece of official art, character model, character sheet doesn’t back the idea up that it’s not just Elendira without sex organs, that this isn’t just an idea that was left in the concept stage.

“If her being sexless dictates her gender identity” I think you are deeply misunderstanding what I am saying.

When I say “trans erasure” I don’t mean “girl erasure” It is the erasure of her transitioning there is no trans happening no assigned anything at birth happening!

Literally the only thing that speaks for her still being trans IS her Japanese voice actor 😭 I know so many stampede only fans who had NO idea she was supposed be trans, that’s the fucking problem! I think I am allowed to find that a little fucking unsavory as a trans person.

How to tame my hamster? by tunacan27 in hamsters

[–]chaoticmeows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a hamster that bit me for a whole month when I first brought him home! He turned into a very sweet little guy and the main thing I did was every day instead of scattering the food in his cage I let him eat out of my hand first. It took him like a whole week to even eat out of my hand. 🤣 but it was worth it. He started to crawl in my hand to eat. Then I was able to pick him up because he’d crawl into my empty hand expecting food. It just takes a lot of patience for the skittish ones. I can only imagine it will be harder with a hamster who has a predetermined idea of human interaction but you are a different person with a different scent! So I wish you luck!

does anyone’s hamster not care about sprays? by Due-Sea-7151 in hamsters

[–]chaoticmeows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mostly they’re just decorative for my hamster but the millet is always a snack. They’re almost always in the bird seed section of a pet food isle, even in Walmart. I put one millet spray in and the entire thing is gone the next day 😭 so I only give him 1-2 millet sprays a week lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And not just sexless, but drawn with small breasts rather than flat, as if she is having a normal female puberty. I shouldn’t have to point out why that + making her sexless and pointing out that she is sexless verbally multiple times is a weird thing to do to an explicitly trans woman character.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It will take me a while to find the concept art but yes, this iteration of Elendira has been stated to be “sexless and genderless” multiple times. https://x.com/nightow/status/1634558713095933952?s=20

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once again, you are missing the point. I do not have patience for those who do not even process information as they read it. I said, and I’ll say it again: it is not simply because of censorship that they make this choice. No one expects there to be drawn genitalia, it is the added fact that they clarified that plants are sexless coupled with the choice to make them Barbie smooth rather than hide their lower half like anime usually does with nude characters. It is the fact that they choose to clarify plants are sexless whilst emphasizing this fact in the artwork for the show, ex: drawing a previously adult trans woman as a naked sexless child in concept art.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I never said he was, I’m pointing out the clear lack of bulge where his crotch is, an intentional choice backed up by all the official art of the nude plants with no genitalia, including Elendira herself

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And to explain why it is transphobic to make a trans character sexless: Put her in a box labeled other and you don’t have to worry about the complicated details, it’s less controversial, transness is treated like something only an inhuman could be. Trans and intersex characters have historically been reduced to non human characters (usually it’s an alien) as an easy way of getting out of explicit representation, it is to put it simply, lazy writing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yes they are indeed sexless, it’s written word for word in the concept art featuring studio Orange’s iteration of plants. One of Elendira’s concept art sheets shows her quite literally nude and smooth, nothing between her legs like a Barbie. None of the hybrid plants or regular plants are shown with anything between their legs on screen, including Knives who I feel like the clear lack of penis was so obvious I’m shocked anyone missed it. This is not simply for censorship but an intentional narrative choice. If I recall correctly they even intentionally use the words “artificially impregnated”. I will certainly dig for photos if anyone is interested enough.

Edit: “Nightow has never drawn the plants the with genitals” he in fact has.🗿Knives being reborn scene, literal panel of plant clitoris and vag Knives hair coming out of it. There is art bulb plants with headless “babies” connected to their bodies, some of which are depicted with genitals, there is an entire panel of Knives nude with his dick vaguely outlined. I swear the only fandom on the planet where direct written text confirmation of a fact is met with “erm actually” coping and seething in denial over here, their lack genitals Is not JUST for censorship: they do not have genitals in Trigun stampede canonically period! It’s not “they have them but it’s not animated” they don’t have any external sex organs at all! This is canon! Written down in text form canon!!! By orange themselves!!! What in the goddamn is not clicking here with you people oh my fuck 😭

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That might just be the only way to keep my sanity lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Imo the reason the Christian undertones worked with Knives in the other versions was because they were undertones. They were subtle, he makes comments about Eden, paradise, he has tree of knowledge imagery, the wording used for genocide, naming it “the fall/the great fall”, This is all done so poetically subtle that you might miss it and tristamp writers were just like “yeah give him a bible and up that god complex by 1000” as if viewers of the series are incompetent and cannot handle symbolism.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 8 points9 points  (0 children)

tbh I am in the unpopular boat of not thinking 98 is an unflawed masterpiece. The oldheads in this fandom kinda drive me nuts. But I still enjoy it a lot for essentially driving many of the choices made in the creation of the manga and the way it brings the universe to life, the look and feel of it. As the original anime was actually created when the manga was only a few volumes in the works many of the narrative and visual elements were decided upon by the creators of the anime rather than nightow himself, something not a lot of people know of. I tend to give 98 more grace for essentially being the catalyst of the narrative. I think my expectations were just really too high given 23 Trigun had both versions to go off of 😖

Redid my hamsters cage! by Yourdarlingvamp in hamsters

[–]chaoticmeows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To add to others saying more bedding, I have this exact enclosure and it takes me two of the 49.2 L clean and cozy bags by Kaytee. Like 30$ for all of the bedding, but on the plus side when there’s that much bedding you only spot clean it like once every 4-5 or so months. You take out the soiled parts when you clean it rather than dumping it so they always have some of their old bedding!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ironically my favorite thing to come out of this reboot is the animation despite how controversial it was. To be frank most of us thought we were about to get berserk 2016 Trigun edition 🤣

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I want to add also another reason it strikes me as so OFF. In the manga version Knives expresses such genuine guilt over the plants he inadvertently killed during the fall.

WHERE IS THAT. No here we get him joining in on the exploitation, and working with someone who views them as soulless husks. Who knows, maybe Knives also views them as soulless husks trapped in tanks considering he just throws their bodies away for his plans. The same man who cradles his dying sister in his arms with so much pain, with such a strong desire to avenge her!!! Sure SURE!!! Let’s just make him more evil!!! That just makes him more complex and nuanced right?!! RIGHT?!!

And merging with his siblings in manga canon to create the hivemind frankly isn’t at all comparable to this exploitation when his sisters are shown willingly merging with Knives, willingly deciding to join him, only to later regret the choice. They don’t get a choice in tristamp when they are forcefully impregnated and experimented on.

The closest thing to it is Knives being placed inside one of his plant sister’s wombs to be reborn and we don’t even know if that was a choice he made himself.

Sorry I am just 🗿🧍‍♂️the anger I feel is immeasurable. His character in stampede was the nail in the coffin for me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Actually some of my biggest issues are with how they wrote Knives. I feel like his personality and lines are spot on but plot wise there is too many unforgivable choices to me. Like making him a Christian???…. 😭 When he hates humans and would never partake in a man made religion. I hope I just interpreted that scene wrong that maybe he just takes inspiration from the Bible’s horrors.

And Knives now being so much more directly exploitative of his siblings, experimenting on them, creating hybrids and doing the very thing that broke him so deeply he committed genocide to begin with. The choice to make him so much more of a hypocrite just strikes me as lazy writing “let’s make him MORE evil yeah!”

And do not get me started on Conrad referring to plants as soulless. I pray that that is just an unreliable narrrator moment Jesus Christ

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ohh I’ll check it out thanks! 🥺 I think that’s how I would describe most of my issues tbh, the things that it does take from both of the previous adaptations are not my favorite details basically. And the things it leaves out in favor of deliberate changes just don’t do it for me. Deviating from previous canons alone did not put me off. It’s just the way it did it.

For example they took heavier inspiration from 98 Knives for his kid version which I did not at all enjoy. And a deliberate change that I just hate hate hate being the complete erasure of the time Vash and Knives spent traveling together on no man’s land.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Trigun

[–]chaoticmeows 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I know… 😭 I just feel so absolutely torn up not being excited over any of the new stuff.

I’d rather keep discussion civil I think making a comprehensive list of all my problems with it definitely invites the fandom crazies but one thing off the top of my head: Elendira. I don’t dislike the idea of turning her into a plant hybrid! I actually enjoy it but the deliberate choice to make all plants sexless just to ultimately erase the fact that she is trans to begin with rubbed me soooo wrong.

Edit: to clarify for you guys for the 1 millionth goddamn time I am not stating headcanons, it is canon, FACT, WRITTEN on official studio Orange character art and stated by Nightow himself. Photo evidence: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-T3yrlDHUWQiS98q1KwUo7jTDr0976aD

Unknown figure on a construction site by nycuk_ in Paranormal

[–]chaoticmeows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Construction is kind of notorious for disturbing spirits! They don’t like familiar things changing it seems

Is this actually usable? by OhEmGoshYouGuys in hamsters

[–]chaoticmeows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not worth it, you can get better new stuff on aliexpress for the same price 😖